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#921 User is offline   D'rek 

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 04:50 PM

View Posttwelve, on 28 April 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 April 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

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Promissory Notes: 3 Jol-Nar, 1 Hacan


Note with the return of Research Agreement from Bend you're back at 4 Jol-Nar PNs


Well as it was returned to me and I immediately offered it in trade to Nico for holding off on using it this round I figure I won't be hanging on to it for very long.


You may have "offered" it, but you're still in possession of it until someone takes you up on that offer. It's not in some cosmic schrodinger state (or else why not "offer" all of your resources to hide your capabilities from your status update, then renege and "Ha! I had 12 TGs all along, surprise Dreadnoughts!")

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 04:52 PM

Map and race sheets have been updated

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 04:52 PM

I mean... If you're giving something to someone based on an earlier deal that they've already held up their end of the bargain, why would you not just give it to them?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 04:58 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

I mean... If you're giving something to someone based on an earlier deal that they've already held up their end of the bargain, why would you not just give it to them?


Exactly. Do your offering/negotiation in here, and then just post the trade when it actually happens in the game thread. Easy peazy, and keeps things clearer for those reading the game thread.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 04:59 PM

View PostD, on 28 April 2018 - 04:50 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 28 April 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 April 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

@Twelve:

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Promissory Notes: 3 Jol-Nar, 1 Hacan


Note with the return of Research Agreement from Bend you're back at 4 Jol-Nar PNs


Well as it was returned to me and I immediately offered it in trade to Nico for holding off on using it this round I figure I won't be hanging on to it for very long.


You may have "offered" it, but you're still in possession of it until someone takes you up on that offer. It's not in some cosmic schrodinger state (or else why not "offer" all of your resources to hide your capabilities from your status update, then renege and "Ha! I had 12 TGs all along, surprise Dreadnoughts!")


Understood and makes sense. Also in my defense when I posted it Blend hadn't used it yet so it wasn't exactly a lie when I said I only had 3 PNs of mine in my possession.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:01 PM

View PostD, on 28 April 2018 - 04:58 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

I mean... If you're giving something to someone based on an earlier deal that they've already held up their end of the bargain, why would you not just give it to them?


Exactly. Do your offering/negotiation in here, and then just post the trade when it actually happens in the game thread. Easy peazy, and keeps things clearer for those reading the game thread.


Right, so what I'm saying is Nico has already held up his end of the deal, so it makes sense that Twelve would just give him the PN after I used it, no?

I guess I am just not understanding something...
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:02 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

I mean, whatever planet you want me to vote for, basically. I don't particularly want either of the current agendas...


I'm definitely leaning to voting for Qucen'n. I have a feeling I'm going to need some trade goods next round and having 3 extra wouldn't be amiss.

IH will you also vote with your extra votes for Qucen'n? I'm still committed to voting 8 towards giving you the reroll ability if you still want it. Anyone else want to take claim to that ability.




Blend of the two agendas if you really want to dump one I'd say the reroll one probably makes the most sense. That is a very dangerous one to utilize but if you are in a fight and you are going to lose those ships anyway I guess you have nothing to lose.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 April 2018 - 04:58 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

I mean... If you're giving something to someone based on an earlier deal that they've already held up their end of the bargain, why would you not just give it to them?


Exactly. Do your offering/negotiation in here, and then just post the trade when it actually happens in the game thread. Easy peazy, and keeps things clearer for those reading the game thread.


Right, so what I'm saying is Nico has already held up his end of the deal, so it makes sense that Twelve would just give him the PN after I used it, no?

I guess I am just not understanding something...


I was wanting a TG along with it. If I just gave it to him then there is no guarantee I would get that TG in return. If I wait until he accepts the deal on his turn it's binding and we both get what we ask for. If I just straight give it to him there is no guarantee he would give me the TG when his turn comes around. There is no benefit to me not waiting in this scenario.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

Ah, my bad, I thought he had already done what you had agreed on!
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:07 PM

It certainly worries me that it's looking like you guys are going to try to give it to IH.

Alright, that's what I shall do.

D'rek - please remove the Crown of Thalnos agenda.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:11 PM

Blend did ou give me 2 TGs for Khell getting free trade?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:12 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 28 April 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

Blend did ou give me 2 TGs for Khell getting free trade?


No, I can't afford it cause Khell didn't use the free refresh, so I renegged on the deal.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:16 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 28 April 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

Blend did ou give me 2 TGs for Khell getting free trade?


No, I can't afford it cause Khell didn't use the free refresh, so I renegged on the deal.



Oh, makes sense. He cannot use it now then?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:16 PM

Can you trade 2:2?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:24 PM

Do you mean in addition to the 1:1 deal that we already have?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:29 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

Do you mean in addition to the 1:1 deal that we already have?


So instead of 1:1 we do 2:2?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:31 PM

Ah, sure - I've already posted the 1:1 in my game update. I believe you'll have to do the additional 1:1 during your turn unless D'rek's okay with me modifying my last action?
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:33 PM

View PostBlend, on 28 April 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

Ah, sure - I've already posted the 1:1 in my game update. I believe you'll have to do the additional 1:1 during your turn unless D'rek's okay with me modifying my last action?


Cool. I'll post it.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:47 PM

The whole galaxy is too afraid to of Infinity War spoilers to risk having an Agenda named "The Crown of Thalnos"

Crown of Thanos is discarded. Blend looks at the top card and puts it on the bottom. A new Agenda is drawn:

SWORDS TO PLOWSHARES (DIRECTIVE)
FOR: Each player destroys half of their infantry (rounded up) on each planet. Each player gains a trade good for each unit they destroyed.
AGAINST: Each player gains 1 infantry on each planet they control.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 06:01 PM

For the new objective I am going to vote against. D'rek which order do these resolve in?

Compensated Disarmament first and then Swords to Plowshares I assume?
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