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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:41 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on 15 May 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 11 May 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 May 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Seems like a lots been going on!

Back in civilisation, what have I missed?

My votes up for sale for 2tg/political secrets PN/promise of votes in future agendas.


If you throw a few votes on Thibah for Cybernetic, I'll choose you to receive the 2 TGs from Production Biomes next round.

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That's only 15/17 votes total if they all vote that way, not enough to guarantee outcome especially with Khell also having quite a few votes.

The only reason people are looking at Cybernetic now is because there is no other outcome possible on Colonial Redistribution than Twelve winning it.

Before, Cybernetic would have been a perfectly safe place to stash your rider, because Twelve doesn't care, no other single player has more than 12 votes and Blend eliminated me and IH (12 and 11 respectively) from competing for it by asking us to support him for Thibah. Khell already has a yellow tech planet so he might not be too interested, either, even if he didn't prioritise Colonial Redistribution.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:45 AM

View PostTapper, on 15 May 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on 15 May 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 11 May 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 May 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Seems like a lots been going on!

Back in civilisation, what have I missed?

My votes up for sale for 2tg/political secrets PN/promise of votes in future agendas.


If you throw a few votes on Thibah for Cybernetic, I'll choose you to receive the 2 TGs from Production Biomes next round.

@ Tatts: here.


That's only 15/17 votes total if they all vote that way, not enough to guarantee outcome especially with Khell also having quite a few votes.

The only reason people are looking at Cybernetic now is because there is no other outcome possible on Colonial Redistribution than Twelve winning it.

Before, Cybernetic would have been a perfectly safe place to stash your rider, because Twelve doesn't care, no other single player has more than 12 votes and Blend eliminated me and IH (12 and 11 respectively) from competing for it by asking us to support him for Thibah. Khell already has a yellow tech planet so he might not be too interested, either, even if he didn't prioritise Colonial Redistribution.


I only acquired the rider during the status phase, before that I did not have a card that would make me care one way or the other as to which agenda to vote on. As I came on this morning I had to place the rider quickly due to the rules about delaying an action card/rider. So I honestly didn't give it too much thought. I just got it down quick.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:47 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on 15 May 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on 15 May 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 11 May 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 May 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Seems like a lots been going on!

Back in civilisation, what have I missed?

My votes up for sale for 2tg/political secrets PN/promise of votes in future agendas.


If you throw a few votes on Thibah for Cybernetic, I'll choose you to receive the 2 TGs from Production Biomes next round.

@ Tatts: here.


That's only 15/17 votes total if they all vote that way, not enough to guarantee outcome especially with Khell also having quite a few votes.

The only reason people are looking at Cybernetic now is because there is no other outcome possible on Colonial Redistribution than Twelve winning it.

Before, Cybernetic would have been a perfectly safe place to stash your rider, because Twelve doesn't care, no other single player has more than 12 votes and Blend eliminated me and IH (12 and 11 respectively) from competing for it by asking us to support him for Thibah. Khell already has a yellow tech planet so he might not be too interested, either, even if he didn't prioritise Colonial Redistribution.


I only acquired the rider during the status phase, before that I did not have a card that would make me care one way or the other as to which agenda to vote on. As I came on this morning I had to place the rider quickly due to the rules about delaying an action card/rider. So I honestly didn't give it too much thought. I just got it down quick.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

This is why I think riders should be played before the status phase, if you draw a rider tough luck play it next time.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 15 May 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

@IH:

Support for the Throne PN in exchange for not stealing ACs from me next round? Not that I'm the one you should be targeting anyway.


Ooh what did you get that you don't want me to steal!

Sure I'll take that deal.



Cool.

I didn't receive any worldbeaters that's for sure, but this is the first time I've received ACs that aren't almost entirely incompatible with my race and strategy, so that's nice.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:53 AM

Or, maybe once the status phase has ended and before ANYONE talks about where their vote is going the riders get played. Then people can barter, bargain, make deals to make these things happen. That makes most sense, we could all see Zohbat was a good destination for that first agenda, so in a way it wasn't needed to be talked about until now.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:23 AM

Well of course I am going to pick the planet I argue for. I made that preliminary well in advance of the phase coming into effect so that it could be posted as the status began, as it should be. If I was able to alter that choice I would naturally have picked the planet that was clearly winning. But that seems a little dishonest, no?
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:29 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 15 May 2018 - 10:23 AM, said:

Well of course I am going to pick the planet I argue for. I made that preliminary well in advance of the phase coming into effect so that it could be posted as the status began, as it should be. If I was able to alter that choice I would naturally have picked the planet that was clearly winning. But that seems a little dishonest, no?


Or you could have sacrificed a small gain for yourself by picking something random for a larger block on twelve's progression. As it is, even I could be half-happy about twelve winning the vote if it means you losing your prediction.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:31 AM

A bribe such as 'hey guys, vote for Zohbat and I won't put that as my prediction' would have been quite appealing I think.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:32 AM

yeah, that is a fair point. It didn't occur to me to use that power as point of bargaining.

In my defence twelve has a lot of really cool tech that I want to assimilate learn from.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?


It's not crucial to me to get it, but if you agree to vote for me then Blend might offer you something good in return for your votes on him instead.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?


It's not crucial to me to get it, but if you agree to vote for me then Blend might offer you something good in return for your votes on him instead.


Okay, you have my axe (7)
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 15 May 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

yeah, that is a fair point. It didn't occur to me to use that power as point of bargaining.

In my defence twelve has a lot of really cool tech that I want to assimilate learn from.


Well if you don't get it now, then by all means feel free to fly past me and enroll in Twelve's universities next round!
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?


It's not crucial to me to get it, but if you agree to vote for me then Blend might offer you something good in return for your votes on him instead.


Okay, you have my axe (7)


Great!

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:43 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 15 May 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

yeah, that is a fair point. It didn't occur to me to use that power as point of bargaining.

In my defence twelve has a lot of really cool tech that I want to assimilate learn from.


Well if you don't get it now, then by all means feel free to fly past me and enroll in Twelve's universities next round!


It's too late to change it now anyways, but I'll surely keep it in mind for later rounds.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:15 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?


It's not crucial to me to get it, but if you agree to vote for me then Blend might offer you something good in return for your votes on him instead.


Okay, you have my axe (7)


Great!

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So what, Khell you are throwing your 12 and Tatts' 7 at Lazar for Cybernetic?

If you're gonna be like that, I will pull my 6 votes and, if they will follow, Tapper's 5 and IH's 4 and stick them on Zohbat for first agenda.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:17 PM

View PostBlend, on 15 May 2018 - 01:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 May 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Nico are you going to vote Wellon for second agenda?


Vote for Lazar y'all!


Worth anything?


It's not crucial to me to get it, but if you agree to vote for me then Blend might offer you something good in return for your votes on him instead.


Okay, you have my axe (7)


Great!

***Sol diplomat to the Sol ambassador: "Can you believe these dweebs still use axes?!"***


So what, Khell you are throwing your 12 and Tatts' 7 at Lazar for Cybernetic?

If you're gonna be like that, I will pull my 6 votes and, if they will follow, Tapper's 5 and IH's 4 and stick them on Zohbat for first agenda.


Or against? Whatever side is opposite from where you currently claim to be standing....

Reading from phone on the bus so gonna have to wait til I get in to work to really decipher where everyone claims their votes are.
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