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Mafia 147 Game Thread

#141 User is offline   Skintick 

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 05:13 AM

View PostAranatha, on 28 March 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

Damn, my gut is telling me that Fanderay's play here reads off. You're reading way too seriously, way too fast. It's day 1, I'm willing to listen to my gut for now. There's really not much better to go on atm.

Vote Fanderay



View PostBlend, on 29 March 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 25 minutes since time out
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Skintick, Ruse )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Jalan )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Fanderay

Aranatha has been lynched. He was JPK and a Roleless Innocent.



any other questions?

#142 User is offline   Jalan 

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:11 AM

View PostThyrllan, on 30 March 2018 - 07:27 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 March 2018 - 06:44 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 30 March 2018 - 05:19 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 March 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

first thing I thought (and pmed to PS) on the arantha train was that it was a distraction from the Fanderay train, a derailment, and lo, inno turns up dead.


You were... expecting... something other than a town CF??

What?


No, read what I said. The dandering trail was detailed and a sudden drive on arantha, and lo, an innovative turns up dead.



Yes, you said a town dead not a town CF or a town lynch therefore you're particularly commenting on the NK.

I'm voting you and I'm not moving unless something spectacular happens.


Don't try and put words in my mouth.
Dead is dead, be it lynched or nked.
Had I been referencing the NK I would have said finder turns up dead.

vote Thyr

Miss representing me twice deliberately to try and paint me out as having made some kind of slip or whatever it is they are doing, it's twitchy bullshit looking to make an easy scale goat.
It's you or Candy for me and you just leap frogged him with this second post of trying to twist my words, congratulations

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:46 AM

View PostSkintick, on 31 March 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 28 March 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

Damn, my gut is telling me that Fanderay's play here reads off. You're reading way too seriously, way too fast. It's day 1, I'm willing to listen to my gut for now. There's really not much better to go on atm.

Vote Fanderay



View PostBlend, on 29 March 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 25 minutes since time out
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Skintick, Ruse )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Jalan )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Fanderay

Aranatha has been lynched. He was JPK and a Roleless Innocent.



any other questions?






Hmmmn. speaking in explanation of a lynched player I understand, leaning into the players intention I do not, particularly as the Fandaray train was let off by Aranatha. Why are you picking at Aranathas/JPKs bones?

It looks speculative. Like you're drawing attention away from the actual train.

Are you willing to go after Kalse, Eldat or Thyr?

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:52 AM

View PostSkintick, on 30 March 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

I think of all the votes yesterday, I like Kalse's the least




vote Kalse




Also, AY needs to get their shit together and comment on the game more





Hmmn, missed this. so you're willing to go after Kalse.

My read of the game is you're up to something. I think there's a real possibility you're distracting from either Thyr or eldat now.


Remove vote

Vote Thyr

Information-wise I think a better place of my vote.

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 05:20 PM

View PostAy Estos, on 31 March 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 31 March 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 28 March 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

Damn, my gut is telling me that Fanderay's play here reads off. You're reading way too seriously, way too fast. It's day 1, I'm willing to listen to my gut for now. There's really not much better to go on atm.

Vote Fanderay



View PostBlend, on 29 March 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 25 minutes since time out
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Skintick, Ruse )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Jalan )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Fanderay

Aranatha has been lynched. He was JPK and a Roleless Innocent.



any other questions?






Hmmmn. speaking in explanation of a lynched player I understand, leaning into the players intention I do not, particularly as the Fandaray train was let off by Aranatha. Why are you picking at Aranathas/JPKs bones?

It looks speculative. Like you're drawing attention away from the actual train.

Are you willing to go after Kalse, Eldat or Thyr?


How the fuck am I doing that? I pointed out how the train started. JPK voted Fandy after Fandy voted me. That was the context of the JPK train.

After that I go and list every vote on the train.

You are being obtuse. I'm not sure if it's deliberate or not though.

#146 User is offline   Ay Estos 

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:56 PM

I don't see a problem here.

If I'm voting Thyr and not Skintick it shouldn't matter whether Sintick is or isn't leading away from the lynch train.

why dost thou protest?

Also your review is a little "anywhere but here", so again I find that worth placing my vote where it is currently.

#147 User is offline   Eldat Pressen 

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

It's bank holiday in England. I've been enjoying time off and not been online. I'll be back on Tuesday to post my thoughts.

#148 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:33 PM

Back. Didnt get a chance to read over the holiday and will get caught up. Should we extend the freeze if it’s a holiday in UK?

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:52 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 March 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

Ruse has been killed. He was Andorion and the town finder.


It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Skintick, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Skintick, Thyrllan


Weekend freeze will begin when there are 12 hours remaining on the clock and end next Tuesday.


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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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#150 User is offline   Eldat Pressen 

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:47 AM

After reading up on day one I am convinced that Okaros and Fanderay are paired killers.

In my mind it all starts off with the wrong vote by Fanderay. I wasn't look at this until I found some stuff on Okaros that looked a bit weird so I went back to read Okaros and this post cast a new light.

View PostFanderay, on 28 March 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 28 March 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

Okay, so we only have 2 killers and no symp.

Ay, Okaros, Jalan and Fandy all have one post each.

vote Okaros

Speak up and tell us your dreams!

Voting low posters on day 1 is pretty scummy. If they continue to coast along, then I am all for getting rid of them.

So far you are my best bet for scum today.

vote Okaros



I originally assumed Fanderay voted Okaros because Okaros was in Skintick's post but what if Fanderay is just thinking about his partner and casually votes him accidentally.

That's a bit of a stretch you say, well look at what happens...

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:53 AM

Okaros starts doing updates but actually getting the count wrong. This counts in Fanderay's favour because it looks like Aranatha is the only one available to lynch.

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 28 March 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 6 hours and 33 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Okaros ( Skintick )
2 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse )
1 Vote for Skintick ( Fanderay )
2 Votes for Fanderay ( Aranatha, Jalan )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Ruse



It is Day 1. 4 hours and 45 minutes or so remaining
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, )
1 Vote for Skintick ( Fanderay )
2 Votes for Fanderay ( Aranatha, Jalan, Skintick )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Okaros, Ruse

Eldat Pressen 15
Skintick 13
Fanderay 8
Path-Shaper 6
Kalse 5
Thyrllan 5
Okaros 5
Jalan 4
Blend 4
Ruse 3
Ay Estos 3
Aranatha 3

My post count is all catchup comments, so essentially 1.
I'm a bit concerned with Aranatha and Jalan voting with such low posts. Going to glance at their rationale.



I know he admits to the error but does it again

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

And, oops. Changed the voters but not the counts. Sorry


No mention of Fanderay here

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 28 March 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

Thank you for this actually.

I suspect there's a good shot of either Skintick or Jalan being scum and backing an unlikely train here.

I'm willing to hang today if necessary to help start sorting some of this mess out.

Well, I'm willing to hang you today to get a lynch. But I think I'd much rather go after Jalan or Kalse. They look the most suspicious to me.

- second on each train

- separate chains


Jalan's catch up reading took all of two minutes. Not a lot of posts but that's a little short still.

Kalse's One meaningful post still looks rather opportunistic.

4 hours to go. I will vote Aranatha to get a lynch in a little while but first I'd like to see if there is anyone else willing to go for Jalan or Kalse?



I say this because at this point both Fanderay and Aranatha have equal number of votes

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

With the proviso that I'll switch to Aranatha in a couple of hours if no other interest grows:

Vote Kalse



View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

Fuck that. I want a lynch today.
Remove Vote
Vote Aranatha.



See, votes Kalse but immediately switches to Aranatha pushing him ahead of Fanderay for the lynch which then Skintick removes his vote and votes Aranatha making him the only lynch candidate. This starts with Okaros's post.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:03 AM

Now he already messed up a vote count so

View PostOkaros, on 29 March 2018 - 01:32 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 28 March 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 6 hours and 33 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Okaros ( Skintick )
2 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse )
1 Vote for Skintick ( Fanderay )
2 Votes for Fanderay ( Aranatha, Jalan )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Ruse



It is Day 1. 4 hours and 45 minutes or so remaining
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Skintick ( Fanderay )
2 Votes for Fanderay ( Aranatha, Jalan, Skintick )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Okaros, Ruse




It is Day 1. 1 hour and 45 minutes or so remaining
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Skintick)
2 Votes for Fanderay ( Aranatha, Jalan, )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Fanderay, Ruse



doing it again is quite suspicious, if it was just the one then okay, but twice.

Now instead of Fanderay I could see Skintick being Okaros' partner with the close votes and defending off the vote count mistake

View PostSkintick, on 29 March 2018 - 01:54 AM, said:

4, cuz Fandy removed. He was vote 1




So I have Okaros as the main proponent of the lynch. The driving force if you will.

View PostBlend, on 29 March 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 25 minutes since time out
10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Aranatha ( Thyrllan, Kalse, Eldat Pressen, Okaros, Skintick, Ruse )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Jalan )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Fanderay

Aranatha has been lynched. He was JPK and a Roleless Innocent.



Okaros and Skintick quick votes together strung Aranatha up, but say that is coincidence, then one off, one on also fits with Okaros/Fanderay.


Vote Okaros

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:30 PM

Hey, when did this game happen!?
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Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:47 PM

Interesting analysis by Eldat. I hadn’t noticed that Okaros had messed up the vote count twice. My initial thoughts from the Aranatha lynch were that Eldat and Okaros caused the train to get momentum. The night of the lynch, I removed from Skintick despite my day 1 feelings that he was looking for easy lynch targets, and talk about the endgame. Skintick and Ruse jumped on while I was still considering Jalan and Kalse.

I didn’t get a chance to reread at work yesterday, so I’ll have a look at those last 4 votes today.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 04:19 PM

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

Crap. If you pull off Aranatha that would make him less lynchsble.


As long as you’re quoting me Eldat why don’t you quote the one where I explain why I switched so quickly from Kalse to Aranatha?

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 04:21 PM

As far as messing up vote counts? Editing using a keyboard without arrow keys is a pain in the ass.
And I was at least doing it. No one else was bothering.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:48 PM

View PostOkaros, on 03 April 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

Crap. If you pull off Aranatha that would make him less lynchsble.


As long as you’re quoting me Eldat why don’t you quote the one where I explain why I switched so quickly from Kalse to Aranatha?


Its in there, yet at the time both Fanderay and Aranatha were on the same votes. Exact same but you made it look like Aranatha was the only option.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:48 PM

View PostEldat Pressen, on 03 April 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 03 April 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 28 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

Crap. If you pull off Aranatha that would make him less lynchsble.


As long as you're quoting me Eldat why don't you quote the one where I explain why I switched so quickly from Kalse to Aranatha?


Its in there, yet at the time both Fanderay and Aranatha were on the same votes. Exact same but you made it look like Aranatha was the only option.


Hmmmmn.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:01 PM

View PostEldat Pressen, on 28 March 2018 - 09:48 PM, said:

I'm going to bed so won't be around for timeout, I'm liking the votes for Aranatha the most. As mentioned above...

vote Aranatha


Dude. You were the third person on Aranatha.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:04 PM

View PostJalan, on 28 March 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

forogt to put the actual vote into thta post

vote Fanderay



View PostKalse, on 28 March 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 28 March 2018 - 07:46 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 28 March 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

Damn, my gut is telling me that Fanderay's play here reads off. You're reading way too seriously, way too fast. It's day 1, I'm willing to listen to my gut for now. There's really not much better to go on atm.

Vote Fanderay


What gets my gost is when someone makes a serious point "too early" and ends up getting lynched for being serious. WTF?

We have a small number therefore some seriousness is needed.

Remove Vote

Vote Aranatha



I don't find Fandy very scummy and this is something I can get behind better than the alternatives, out for the day

vote Aranatha



I'm really bothered by the timing there.
Is there any possibility of an update?

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