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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:12 AM

I know that this may not be the right forum to seek an advice about my dog's excessive barking and howling behavior, but I am still hoping that you guys can somehow help me out with my concern. I am looking at these bark collars online, but I am not that sure which one should I purchase. I am not just the one who is having a hard time dealing with it as my neighbors have already confronted me about it. I am looking forward to getting some tips from any dog owner in this section. Thanks in advance.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:40 AM

View Postcrazymags, on 12 February 2018 - 12:12 AM, said:

I know that this may not be the right forum to seek an advice about my dogís excessive barking and howling behavior, but I am still hoping that you guys can somehow help me out with my concern. I am looking at these bark collars online, but I am not that sure which one should I purchase. I am not just the one who is having a hard time dealing with it as my neighbors have already confronted me about it. I am looking forward to getting some tips from any dog owner in this section. Thanks in advance.

General starting points: Take your dog on more active walks and get both of you to a dog training school.

Some breeds are designed to be more vocal and some individual dogs are more vocal than others within the same breed. But you can work to reduce this.

This is more about managing you and helping you communicate to the dog what behaviors you want from the dog.

Questions to answer: When does the dog bark/howl? What do you do when the barking and howling occurs? What role does the dog feel it has in the household?

I really do recommend the training school, as it will do many things (show you that you are not alone, have good dogs and good owners to model after, physically showings of the techniques, and stimulation in a good way). I'm in one right now for our 11 month old pup, who has a bad habit of jumping on everyone and being a hard to walk dog due to pulling.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:51 AM

An interesting tip that I saw once for helping to stop a dog barking as much, is to actually teach it when to bark on command. Strange as it sounds, it worked with my dog. If I say Woof to my dog, he will bark 3 times and stop. and doesn't resume barking.

Unless he hears or sees a fox outside, then all bets are off.

But, as Amphi suggests, go to a training school. Normalising proximity to other dogs is a good thing, and stops a lot of other issues.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:10 AM

Thirding training.
For most breeds, excessive barking is owner fail, not the dog.
Do it, and tell your neighbors thatís what youíre doing.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:51 AM

We had success teaching our dogs to bark on command. It was one of those things we included in the general training regime together with the sit, stay, proper leash discipline and so on.

I personally can't stand bark collars, and other tools of that nature. I think it's better to try training first, and keep the collar as a last resort,
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:09 AM

Besides for training, does the dog have proper stimulation when he barsk excessively. A toy or something of that ilk can sometimes be all that's needed. He might be barking for lack of anything else to occupy himself.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:03 PM

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:55 PM

I agree with everyone else. Training is KEY.

Also I'd add that my sister and brother-in-law tried to curb their dogs bark with a bark collar...and it not only sounded like she was being tortured every time she barked, but she refused to let it deter her and just kind of yelp-barked like a squeaky person with a hoarse voice...which was (if you'll believe it) FAR more distracting and unpleasant than excessive barking. They ended up ditching the collar after about a month as a total waste of money.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

Just my semi-informed $0.02... bark collars are a poor substitute for training. They can work, but can also cause different behavioural problems with the dog who is effectively doing what comes naturally (because not trained otherwise) and punished for it by this thing around its neck that Owner-god put there.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:19 PM

View Postcrazymags, on 12 February 2018 - 12:12 AM, said:

I know that this may not be the right forum to seek an advice about my dogís excessive barking and howling behavior, but I am still hoping that you guys can somehow help me out with my concern. I am looking at these bark collars online, but I am not that sure which one should I purchase. I am not just the one who is having a hard time dealing with it as my neighbors have already confronted me about it. I am looking forward to getting some tips from any dog owner in this section. Thanks in advance.


Tell your noisy neighbors that you are training him to eat people who butt the fuck into your business.

Then get him to a training school. Don't shock him. Would you like to be shocked every time you talked. It is cruel and not a good way to show your dog that you love him. Training him is the proper thing to do.


Also when one of your neighbors goes missing tell the others that they complained to much. It will keep them in line.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:28 PM

I agree that the focus should be on training.

Once you have trained your neighbours to ignore the barking, your life will get way easier.

Some neighbours are difficult to bring along to classes, but there are training aids such as earmuffs and loud tvs which can help. If that fails, there is always corporal punishment.

If that doesn't work, you may have to put your neighbours down, but I would say that is a last resort.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:40 PM

Disagree. The human society will actively work to find good homes for unwanted neighbors.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

This is sounds messed up and I don't advocate it, but just putting all options out there. There are veterinarians that will "debark" your pet by performing vocal chord surgery on him/her. I'm not going to provide any information on it, you can google it if you want to know more.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:45 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 12 February 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

This is sounds messed up and I don't advocate it, but just putting all options out there. There are veterinarians that will "debark" your pet by performing vocal chord surgery on him/her. I'm not going to provide any information on it, you can google it if you want to know more.



There is a guy down my block who will "detalk" you Is that similar? His procedure involves a fist to your throat...and to your nose then a knee to your groin area. Anyone who debarks a dog should go and see my neighbor. Or better yet he will come and see you.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:51 PM

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View PostMalankazooie, on 12 February 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

This is sounds messed up and I don't advocate it, but just putting all options out there. There are veterinarians that will "debark" your pet by performing vocal chord surgery on him/her. I'm not going to provide any information on it, you can google it if you want to know more.



There is a guy down my block who will "detalk" you Is that similar? His procedure involves a fist to your throat...and to your nose then a knee to your groin area. Anyone who debarks a dog should go and see my neighbor. Or better yet he will come and see you.

Similar, but that wouldn't be permanent though. After about ten minutes of recovery, I would be talking ish to him as I was running away. Now if he was a surgeon and had a scalpel, he could shut me up for good. But yeah, you know imma talking that trash once I recover.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:18 PM

I guess I would have to conduct a training then, thank you guys for the insightful tips. I will take note each of this and I am really hoping that sooner or later my issue will be resolve.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:14 AM

View PostMalankazooie, on 12 February 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

This is sounds messed up and I don't advocate it, but just putting all options out there. There are veterinarians that will "debark" your pet by performing vocal chord surgery on him/her. I'm not going to provide any information on it, you can google it if you want to know more.

This is really bad. I know you said you aren't advocating for this, but even slipping it onto the table of discussion is advocating for it in a way.

Vocal chord surgery/"debarking" is a last ditch option for dogs. Many places ban it outright. It also doesn't stop the barking (changes the quality and volume of the bark) or the behaviors that lead up to the barking.

Training the dog is the best bet - and that actually means training yourself to communicate over time with the dog. It's worth a professional if you can find one or afford one.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:16 AM

If the behavior occurs when you are gone, it's more then likely separation anxiety. There are simple things you can do that might curtail it. A toy that you and your pet have bonded over could do the trick. Or a sweater that has your scent left with him. Of course that's asking to find a shredded piece of clothing spread all over the yard/house when you come home. In any event if the behavior is due to separation there are a number of things you can try. A google search should have you on your way.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:22 AM

View Postamphibian, on 13 February 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

I know you said you aren't advocating for this, but even slipping it onto the table of discussion is advocating for it in a way.

No it's not.. I would never do this myself, and being a dog owner myself, find it abhorrent. I was just putting all options out there. I know it upsets people (as it should), but it's legal. Maybe something positive will come out of it and people will rally to have it outlawed across the board. That's my wish.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:53 AM

View Postcrazymags, on 12 February 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

I guess I would have to conduct a training then, thank you guys for the insightful tips. I will take note each of this and I am really hoping that sooner or later my issue will be resolve.


How are you responding when trying to get it to stop? Iíve never taken any dog to training. I have always just asserted unabusive dominance on bad behavior.
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