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#1 User is offline   Madness 

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:07 PM

Or, Proverbial Campfires. I've heard it both ways ;).

Hi Malazan Empire!

I'm working to help facilitate Erikson's engagement online, prompted in part by his new *official* Facebook author page. A couple comments on his recent essay on characterization have yielded the possibility of at least one strictly Erikson podcast - if not more depending on the response from the fandom (like with Esslemont or Bakker or who knows what possibilities might present themselves in the future). My attempts at witty titles aside, the intriguing hook was simply "fireside chats with Steven Erikson."

For my part, I'd like to serve as a conduit, as best as possible, for Erikson/Esslemont's already existing prodigious fandom. Otherwise, I'd be happy to simply tease oratory from the man himself on any subject from anthropology to writing to life itself. I think he's a fine orator and it's definitely an untapped engagement medium by fantasy authors.

My question to the community: what would you like to listen to Erikson speak on? Writing, academics, Malazan, Lundin, etc, etc? Fair warning, for the first one and definitely for any possible subsequent recordings, I will probably limit world-minutia questions for the time being.

Excited for this opportunity! Cheers, Malazan Empire :).
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:55 PM

Podcast! I would love that. Since I started the series I've been looking for a good podcast about it. Personally I would love to hear him speak about writing, reading, books and short stories as the main subject. Interviewing other people would be fantastic. Anthropology of course would be awesome to hear him speak about.

Maybe just a little minutia thrown in at the end or something? All nitty gritty all the time would not be my cup of tea but it just a dash would be awesome.

Would love this.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:43 PM

I ran a minorly popular MMA podcast for several years. Our biggest moment made it on ESPN for a day.

I've heard some great advice from others, which I will put below:

1) First things first, before the website even goes live, get three episodes done. Don't rely on feedback from any audience to make them. See if this excites you all as something to do beyond those three episodes. Iron out kinks too, but that's less important than figuring out if this is an endeavor worth pursuing.

2) scripts help, especially ones that have short questions followed by longer answers

3) having disagreements is good for the podcast, as people like conflict and it also pushes us to better define things and bridge frames of reference. But it helps if the disagreement is genuine, rather than just being shit stirring.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:56 AM

Would love to hear Erikson discuss more on his actual writing process. His routine and his experience developing a book and editing.

I'd like to learn more on his ideas for good characterization, (what I've read so far on his official page has been amazing!) but also interested in how he approaches Character and plot development.

Would love atleast one podcast on dialogue.

It might be particularly endearing to hear him discuss challenges in his current work aswell. Or talk to other authors about challenges faced in producing their more recognized work.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:43 PM

I've been a lurker on this forum for a while. This is the topic that finally gave me the push to create an account. I think an Erikson podcast would be a wonderful idea.

I personally would love to hear him talk about crafting your own style, plotting and even vocabulary usage and development.

I'm sure there are articles and essays where he talks about these things but a podcast would be a much more intimate way to to get his point across.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:45 PM

View Postnicetrout, on 13 November 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

Podcast! I would love that. Since I started the series I've been looking for a good podcast about it. Personally I would love to hear him speak about writing, reading, books and short stories as the main subject. Interviewing other people would be fantastic. Anthropology of course would be awesome to hear him speak about.

Maybe just a little minutia thrown in at the end or something? All nitty gritty all the time would not be my cup of tea but it just a dash would be awesome.

Would love this.


Thanks, nicetrout.

We're moving *organically* forward as we can - I'm hoping if Erikson finds me amicable we might make this a monthly and given the response so far I don't doubt that are topics he could speak on for years more - especially given his current efforts in reaching out directly to his audience.

View Postamphibian, on 13 November 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

I ran a minorly popular MMA podcast for several years. Our biggest moment made it on ESPN for a day.

I've heard some great advice from others, which I will put below:

1) First things first, before the website even goes live, get three episodes done. Don't rely on feedback from any audience to make them. See if this excites you all as something to do beyond those three episodes. Iron out kinks too, but that's less important than figuring out if this is an endeavor worth pursuing.

2) scripts help, especially ones that have short questions followed by longer answers

3) having disagreements is good for the podcast, as people like conflict and it also pushes us to better define things and bridge frames of reference. But it helps if the disagreement is genuine, rather than just being shit stirring.


Cheers, amphibian.

1) All parties are agreed on one so far with the possibility of more going forward. I'm the "mastermind" (hardly) behind the very amateur TSACast for R. Scott Bakker's fandom so I have "experience" ;) (which reminds me, I have to put both the new track and archive tracks back up, as currently there is only the second most recent one up and it very well might have been our worst example).

2) Very much part of the reason I wanted to crowdsource the fandom. When we started TSACast not having an itinerary/rubric of some sort quickly led into chaos - though, the idea behind that one is always about having a new forum member on and having some kind of theme/plot/character to our roundtable.

I think, had I just gone it alone, the recording may very well have turned into mostly a conversation about anthropology, writing, and life, the universe, and everything - if only because those rare occasions I've heard him speak are mesmerizing. Such an intelligent human!

3) Lol, I will never shit stir with Erikson! I knew Bakker personally long before I started the Second Apocalypse or TSACast, so a little ribbing is appropriate sometimes there. However, I do think I can... maybe hold my own (?) with Erikson (though that seems like a very bold claim on my part ;)).

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 16 November 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

Would love to hear Erikson discuss more on his actual writing process. His routine and his experience developing a book and editing.

I'd like to learn more on his ideas for good characterization, (what I've read so far on his official page has been amazing!) but also interested in how he approaches Character and plot development.

Would love atleast one podcast on dialogue.

It might be particularly endearing to hear him discuss challenges in his current work aswell. Or talk to other authors about challenges faced in producing their more recognized work.


Thanks, Dolmen.

All ideas that seem to have arisen on the Erikson author page, though I'm just today linking that post around to the Malazan Empire group and r/fantasy and other forums out there - which I have already been around developing interest in Bakker, of course.

I have a page and a half already that I'll break down into similar ideas/topics, bullet points that might start forming a structure of this first attempt, anyhow (and will provide plenty of fodder going forward).

View PostLucent Galaxy, on 16 November 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

I've been a lurker on this forum for a while. This is the topic that finally gave me the push to create an account. I think an Erikson podcast would be a wonderful idea.

I personally would love to hear him talk about crafting your own style, plotting and even vocabulary usage and development.

I'm sure there are articles and essays where he talks about these things but a podcast would be a much more intimate way to to get his point across.


Great name, LG. Glad to here this inspired you to join the fray.

I agree with you on Erikson's oratory - which was the impetus behind my comments that lead to this possibility in the first place. I'm sure as much as the fandom likes reading his essays and articles, audio is a different animal - and certainly a medium that can be experienced when you can't read (hence, the explosion of audiobooks and podcasts over the years).

Cheers all, will continue to flitter around the internet collating idea data ;D!

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 05:24 PM

I would like Steve to talk about his writing process. Example: does he plan his plot or writes and discover? How does he piece his plot together given that he has complex stories. As a writer, I am curious to know about this. Thank you.
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:43 AM

Questions asked by a good many, Dani_caw. Welcome to Malazan Empire :).
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Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:19 PM

So a thing happened... it took awhile... but here it is...

It will be released on the official author Facebook page in a matter of hours but ME will get it early because I'm compelled to make this notes/discussion post. Cheers Malazan fandom, feel free to vilify and honour me ;).

Fireside Conversations with Steven Erikson:

Praise Hood that we live even once! The first (of hopefully more to come) Proverbial Campfire/Ritual Fire Dance conversations with one half the authors of The Malazan Book of the Fallen, Steven Erikson!

If any Malazan/Bakker fans have followed TSACast before (hopefully temporary hosting for this possibly ongoing series with Erikson & Esslemont) and know how awful my audio fidelity management is, I would like to thank Kevin Feris (www.kevinferis.com) for helping to fix my many recording mistakes. I don't think anyone other than Steve or I will notice but the recording has been "nipped and tucked" over the course of editing and in some places the conversation seems to me a little more terse/jumpy than it was in actuality (our laughing or talking simultaneously in places also caused unfixable clipping in some places, notably Steve's "ughh" regarding my playful mention of "grimdark").

*OBLIGATORY SPOILER WARNING FOR ALL THINGS MALAZAN - though, the explicit spoiler mentions are relatively mild*

Notes:

I always enjoy fans engaging with my notes for TSACast so I would appreciate if Malazan listeners helped find more appropriate links than those I've found or link those that I missed entirely. Much thanks.

- Rejoice: A Knife to the Heart

- 286/386

- SFX Magazine 99 - Early Article on Erikson
- I couldn't find the picture to verify if he was in fact wearing a scart; Imperial War Museum, London, UK, first publicity photo.

- Forthcoming SE.org site mention...

- Books & More with Lenore

- Neanderthal Facebook Article Link

- Homo Erectus Facebook Article Link

- Seafaring Boat Anthropology: Australian, Polynesian, Homer's Odyssey Phoenicians, Sea Peoples.
- Apparently I wanted to say Phoenicians, Polynesians, and Peloponnese all in one breath. These are just a handful of introductory links, I'm sure Steve and fans have more accurate links.

- Ancient Egyptian Boat: I'm not sure if this was the ship Steve was talking about but it seems likely from his description. Again, I'm sure there are better links.
- Extra Bonus Prehistoric Boat Link

- Apparently, I really don't know how to use segue/digression properly ;).
- And I'm definitely using anachronism outside of common usage, yikes.

- Graham Hancock

- Gobekli Tepe

- I was trying to find links for "megalithic tech" and "cut stone" but it leads down such a rabbit hole I thought I'd let people search up for themselves.

- Link affirming "hunter-gatherer groups numbering 15-20" ?

- Is Kaharan Tepe the site near Gobekli Tepe but bigger?

- Comet strike recorded at Gobekli Tepe

- Microspherules

- Historicity

- Again apologies to the authors and the fandom for my horrible (and repeated) mispronunciation of Kharkanas. Lol, it really shouldn't be that hard for me :(.

- Margaret Atwood on "speculative fiction."

- Darko Suvin on "cognitive estrangement."

- Books & More podcast with Steven Erikson on Rejoice: A Knife to the Heart.

- Glen Cook/Steven Erikson interview.

- Forge of Darkness audiobook, narrated by Daniel Philpott (for whom I could find a definitive site to link for him).

- Witness trilogy Chapter 2 epigraph.

- Black Gate CanCon Interview

- I looked for the "nihilism alerts in Malazan article" and this is the closest I found.

- Hero talk/vengeance stories reminded me of Gregory Polti's Thirty-Six Dramatic Situations

- Lol, I'm a fool, October has been the release date for Rejoice on the Facebook page for time and I didn't remember.

- Steven Erikson - Official Author Page

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:34 PM

The picture Erikson is talking about from SFX Magazine:

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:03 PM

It was great listening to the podcast. I hope you get to do more.

By the way, in the SoundCloud description you mention you found the artwork online and were unsure who to credit. The artist is Shadaan, otherwise known as Dolmen 2.0 in this very forum thread. The art can be found HERE.
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