[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 30 October 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Skintick, on 26 October 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

Well now that you point it out, I don't see a reason not to vote you then Jalan. Could be that he is one of your partners, or maybe he is a finder. Either way, I think you are scum.




vote Jalan

Hey, guys can someone tell me how this post makes any sense?

I've been doing a re-read. Prior to this, Skintick's posts amount to "tell me more about your case, X" "Y, I do,kt understand your case" , "Z, your case makes no sense to me" .

He's interacted nearly with everyone, but it's moistly non-statements, and he's the definition of non-commitment.

Here he jumps on... Jalan pointing out ED and Aranatha are discussing books that have Jalan as the name of a main character. AFTER we voted off maccy day 1 to hammer home the point there's no need to signal in this game.

I think I found the quiet scum.


Remove vote

Vote Skintick

[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 30 October 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

Merrid, on 30 October 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

I'm disliking this slide towards a fresh target. Feels too much like being directed away from more obvious targets. Might in fact turn out to be valid but...just not the way it feels in my gut at the moment.

Back from work, now gonna read through day 2 again.

I can see Skintick and Aranatha be on the same team after that Day 2.

Not sure about the 3rd, but the vigour of his attack on me (shifting focus away from his own failure to vote Aranatha) points to Kalse,m

[Eldat Pressen]

Merrid, on 30 October 2017 - 10:51 PM, said:

Skintick, on 26 October 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

Well now that you point it out, I don't see a reason not to vote you then Jalan. Could be that he is one of your partners, or maybe he is a finder. Either way, I think you are scum.




vote Jalan

I can't help but read this as a direct reaction to Jalan's vote on Aranatha. I know my initial suspicions of Ara are informing my judgements, but I'm finding it very difficult to shake off the notion. Maybe because it's right.

[Eldat Pressen]

Merrid, on 30 October 2017 - 11:24 PM, said:

On my reread, the scummiest was indeed Skintick. Not for any one thing, but for general lack of unhelpfulness and contribution. I still need to check a couple of things.

Jalan has not come across as scummy for me. Some of the play around them has, however, both in terms of attacking and defending them. For example, is the Jalan being a character from the much-discussed Broken Empire a setup, or an unfortunate coincidence?

[Eldat Pressen]

Merrid, on 31 October 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

You're right in that I've likely left it too late today to push for an Aranatha lynch. That is a bad mistake by me, should have just placed a vote at the beginning of the day and watched what happened.

I will however

Vote Aranatha

anyway, because ultimately that is the lynch which could have been jumped on but wasn't. Yes, Jalan was at L-2 at one point, but in fact it was a pretty brief amount of time. I will be around a while longer, and I also should be around just before end of day in case a vote is needed elsewhere. I would rather a wrong lynch then no lynch.

[Aranatha]

Funny how many people thought that either me or Jalan have to be scum but we ended up lynching elsewhere again. Kalse wanted to save us for DDay so here we are, time to deal with it, really don't think we should lynch elsewhere.

Vote Jalan

[Eldat Pressen]

Merrid, on 31 October 2017 - 01:19 AM, said:

The way I currently see it is this: Unless there is serious distancing going on (possible!), then if Tennes turns up scum, Ara is probably town. However, that suggests that Jalan is scum, as the other 'stalled' train', but the defending between Tennes and Jalan has been so overt that I have a hard time believing two of the three scum would link themselves so closely.

Ergo, I am hesitant to see Tennes as scum, at least specifically in the context of Ara or Jalan being a partner to them.

[Eldat Pressen]

Thanks to the lynch of Tennes, the input from both Merrid and Tennes and the failed lynch on day 2 I think I have the game figured out. At least 2/3rds anyway. Now this is based purely on what is on thread, I am not claiming anything else.

Scum is Skintick, Kalse and one of Aranatha or Jalan. The latter two are the harder two to decipher but if we listen to both Merrid and Tennes we would have Aranatha as the third scum.

Day 2 is the only day we've missed a lynch and it is telling.

The next day Kalse pretends to be certain that Tennes is scum, and pushes that lynch all day long, forcing us to vote that way.

Meanwhile, Skintick has been quiet. That is, until Tennes pulls up some quotes by them and questions their integrity. Here we see Skintick's highest spike in activity. He ends up following Kalse's vote.

Path-Shaper, on 31 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

As of this post:

Aranatha, on 31 October 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

I am

remove vote
Vote Tennes

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 5 minutes since time out

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Skintick, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

5 Votes for Tennes ( Kalse, Skintick, Nimander Golit, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
2 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Jalan


Tennes has been lynched. He was a Roleless Innocent and Mentalist.

There is no way I can paint Ay Estos as scum with their lack of activity and Nimander has played a solid game.

I want input from at least Nimander and Ay before I place a vote in case they see something glaringly obvious

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
7 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick, Ay Estos, Osseric )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Nimander Golit, Thyrllan

Dejim Nebrahl was lynched. He was a Roleless Innocent and Macros.

Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Thyrllan has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Andorion.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse

Day times out without a lynch.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 03:01 AM, said:

Osseric has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Bubba.

Path-Shaper, on 31 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

5 Votes for Tennes ( Kalse, Skintick, Nimander Golit, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
2 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Jalan

Tennes has been lynched. He was a Roleless Innocent and Mentalist.

Path-Shaper, on 31 October 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

Merrid has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Khellendros.

Summary:
7 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick, Ay Estos, Osseric )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )
5 Votes for Tennes ( Kalse, Skintick, Nimander Golit, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )

Kalse and Skintick are both on successful town trains. They're both absent from the aborted lynch of Aranatha. Aranatha, Kalse, Skintick. Two on one off the first train, classic. None on the Aranatha train and Kalse comes out with this to justify his absence

Kalse, on 27 October 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Ok, I cannot to claim to have a strategy for last night. Yesterday was feeling super off and then had stuff in the evening. Plus, I did not get a feeling that things were going anywhere with the lynch, so in a way I was watching to see how it all played out.

They're all on the lynch of Tennes.

I need to read around peoples reasons for voting a little closer, until then what I see is enough for me to

Vote Aranatha

I note that I've arrived at the same conclusions as EP via a different methodology.

Now I need me some coffee. I'm not going to be around for timeout - not working tonight as got our 32-week ultrasound tomorrow afternoon so need to be human for it.

[Eldat Pressen]

That's a better case than mine. I am still awaiting Nim and Ay because I do think they are the other town.

[Eldat Pressen]

Possible reasons for how quiet this day is that scum are trying to stall, no lynch and a successful night kill and they win.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 13 hours and 27 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Nimander Golit, Skintick

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Jalan ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Jalan )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Nimander Golit, Skintick

[Eldat Pressen]

Aranatha, on 01 November 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Funny how many people thought that either me or Jalan have to be scum but we ended up lynching elsewhere again. Kalse wanted to save us for DDay so here we are, time to deal with it, really don't think we should lynch elsewhere.

Vote Jalan

I missed this vote until Path-shapers latest update.

The uncertainty between you two may make me want to vote Kalse or Skintick as I think they are more nailed on, but if I had to choose it would be Aranatha

[Eldat Pressen]

This does not look hopeful as the last 5 and a half hours I'll be away from the game. We need votes by then and input or game over.

[Eldat Pressen]

The hours just ticking on by.

[Aranatha]

Okay

I really think that Jalan is scum

I also don't think you or anyone else should vote Kalse

Remember that scum control 3 votes out of 4 needed to lynch

And again, me or Jalan should be scum because I've not been hammered yet.

[Eldat Pressen]

Aranatha, on 01 November 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

Okay

I really think that Jalan is scum

I also don't think you or anyone else should vote Kalse

Remember that scum control 3 votes out of 4 needed to lynch

And again, me or Jalan should be scum because I've not been hammered yet.

This doesn't help the you, Kalse, and Skintick theory.

[Kalse]

Yeah, I am still kind of at a loss. We now have 3 scum, 4 town (2 of which are roled and 2 of which are not). If we hit scum today, we get another shot. If we fail, it is over regardless of whether or not the healer finally fucking succeeds. I am not sure my input is wanted today either.

[Kalse]

Eldat Pressen, on 01 November 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 01 November 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

Okay

I really think that Jalan is scum

I also don't think you or anyone else should vote Kalse

Remember that scum control 3 votes out of 4 needed to lynch

And again, me or Jalan should be scum because I've not been hammered yet.

This doesn't help the you, Kalse, and Skintick theory.

I think there is a subtext there.

[Aranatha]

Jalan has been staying very low lately but posting a lot of excuses, then just came out of blue with his train analysis(suddenly he has figured out the whole scum team) and another promise of looking deeper into something. But he'd always have something to say when called out. And it's curious how the attention was always deflected from him to me or Tennes.