Abyss, on 07 June 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:
wait wait wait wait wait...... Christopher Golden?
THAT Christopher Golden?
Yes.
amphibian, on 07 June 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:
I don't know what version of Hellboy comics you're reading, but the character has flexed from being a goof to a King of Hell. The prior two movies were one interpretation - and a good one at that.
He's not actually much of a detective and almost every story he's featured in has him basically bumbling into everything and experiencing what is going on, rather than figuring things out.
It's the others that do the brainpower stuff.
I don't know what to say to this other than "Yes, I've read the Hellboy comics", and clearly I've interpreted them differently than you have. *shrug*
And for the record, Mike Mignola was very unhappy with how HB2 turned out from a story and character angle, and had his issues with HB1 (even though that one is better and closer to the course material) especially with how Liz was portrayed, and the fact that Hellboy was kind of sidelined as "unleashed Superhero monster" side character in his own movie...in favour of the stupid human audience proxy (who they realized they needed to ditch in HB2). I would assume he's a pretty solid choice as who to believe about "what Hellboy is".
Hellboy IS a blue collar Gothic Detective. His bumbling or otherwise is besides the point, as is the help he has from his squad of BPRD operatives. The description stands and is accurate.
GDT made Hellboy into a "Superhero in a Cage". He made him into The Hulk if he was on the Fantastic Four. Sure the personality was pretty close (in general...none of this bemoaning Liz as his love interest crapola), but the presentation of him (and Abe for that matter) are off the mark.
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