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Mafia 144 - Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 2 Game Thread

#201 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:47 PM

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

like Rashan 'voting Osseric' without first removing his vote from me - not that it would have led to a lynch anyway, but that's a classic "Ooops, I made a mistake and forgot to remove my vote" end of day mistake to make it seem like you wanted to lynch someone when you, in fact, really didn't.


I'd still like to hear from Rashan about this.


Right before I posted the vote that included the remove a six-headed goat came down through my ceiling and using torture it eventually made me delete the remove.

#202 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:54 PM

So what you're saying is you didn't really want to remove cause Osseric is your leader?

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:02 PM

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

I mean, call it what you will. I'll just call it what it is. Hunting for members of other factions.

And implying that members of your own faction would not do the very things you're hunting.

Helloooooo

#204 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:05 PM

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

So what you're saying is you didn't really want to remove cause Osseric is your leader?


Exactly

#205 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:07 PM

On a more serious note, if you look back it appears that PS did count my vote in the end there(and that we were still one vote short). If it was deliberate I'd have made sure to PM Bliss so that she couldn't miss that I forgot to remove.

#206 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:17 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 07 June 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

I mean, call it what you will. I'll just call it what it is. Hunting for members of other factions.

And implying that members of your own faction would not do the very things you're hunting.

Helloooooo


Right, I'm just not going to engage you anymore.

#207 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:19 PM

View PostRashan, on 07 June 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

On a more serious note, if you look back it appears that PS did count my vote in the end there(and that we were still one vote short). If it was deliberate I'd have made sure to PM Bliss so that she couldn't miss that I forgot to remove.



Anyway, Rashan, you can't exculpate yourself because PS didn't notice the lack of remove vote. I still think it was mighty suspicious. Specially considering you've been afk most of the day, then suddenly reappeared when I started mentioning that I expected an answer to my question regards you.

I'd certainly like to hear others' opinions. It seems like most interest lies in getting that Osseric lynch. I don't really like most of the points brought up against Osseric, but Rashan's potential defense as noted above could definitely help sway a decision.

#208 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:31 PM

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 07 June 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

On a more serious note, if you look back it appears that PS did count my vote in the end there(and that we were still one vote short). If it was deliberate I'd have made sure to PM Bliss so that she couldn't miss that I forgot to remove.



Anyway, Rashan, you can't exculpate yourself because PS didn't notice the lack of remove vote. I still think it was mighty suspicious. Specially considering you've been afk most of the day, then suddenly reappeared when I started mentioning that I expected an answer to my question regards you.


Totally did not expect you to dismiss anything that I could potentionally bring up to my defence

#209 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:13 AM

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 07 June 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 07 June 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

I mean, call it what you will. I'll just call it what it is. Hunting for members of other factions.

And implying that members of your own faction would not do the very things you're hunting.

Helloooooo


Right, I'm just not going to engage you anymore.

Pretty much all you can do to avoid admitting that I'm right.

#210 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 04:51 AM

I think that this is a cult game that was labeled a faction game because the town has some powerful abilities that potentially allow it to overcome being in minority

So nothing wrong with scumhunting as far as I'm concerned, quite the opposite actually

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:23 AM

So nothing has swayed me away from an Osseric vote.

#212 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:47 AM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 June 2017 - 07:23 AM, said:

So nothing has swayed me away from an Osseric vote.


Not even my efforts? :D

#213 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 08:24 AM

Who is your main target?

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:34 AM

Vote Osseric


Because that's the only thing being mentioned with any hint of momentum and the game isn't really moving forward. If I were to summon up reasons, they would be that I didn't particularly like the post where you outlined what faction people could be in, and the attempt to align Merrid as an independent when the game has not (as yet) hinted at such existing seems like a cheap effort to try and get everyone on board for another lynch by saying, "look, it's safe to vote this person!"

However, having said that, I also understand why you'd do those things, in terms of both moving the game forward and trying to save your own skin, knowing that you'd be the main target today because of your non-lynch the day before. So those reasons don't necessarily point to you being a good lynch choice - even more so because I don't have any clue whether you're in my faction or not. And I also half-suspect that you might know more than you're letting on about the existence of independents - but then also you could as easily be making shit up.

What I'm saying is, I vote without enthusiasm. I abstained from voting yesterday because I saw nothing worth voting for. But a second day of that will be stale.

#215 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:02 AM

View PostGalain, on 08 June 2017 - 10:34 AM, said:

Vote Osseric


Noooooooo

#216 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 June 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

Who is your main target?


Target? If you mean suspect, that's a curious wording

And I dunno, yet

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

I don't understand why nobody's voting for Ampelas.

Regardless of what the OP says about the game, this game resembles a town vs scum more than a faction game. Hypothetically, a vampire faction with a recruit would make this a faction game. It doesn't mean the vampire don't start being outnumbered by town, and it doesn't mean we should forget about traditional scum finding strategies completely.

However you may want to look at it, Ampelas is someone who should be lynched.

If we assume Ampelas is town, he is so incredibly dense he hasn't even read the victory conditions in his role PM, which doesn't say much about his usefulness come late game. I'd rather he be the town we lynch rather than someone more intelligent.

If Ampelas is not town, then he should be lynched ...

Vote Ampelas

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:12 AM

I agree with Lock's assessment of the game, not necessarily with Ampelas. I found earlier Rashan's play suspicious, but now it's just annoying. Which is enough for a vote and this is where I'll put mine for now.

I'm around for most of the day so if we end up in a stalemate and the only way to move the game forward is an Osseric lynch, I can commit to that as well. But would prefer Rashan.

vote Rashan

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 June 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

I agree with Lock's assessment of the game, not necessarily with Ampelas. I found earlier Rashan's play suspicious, but now it's just annoying. Which is enough for a vote and this is where I'll put mine for now.

I'm around for most of the day so if we end up in a stalemate and the only way to move the game forward is an Osseric lynch, I can commit to that as well. But would prefer Rashan.

vote Rashan


I'd defend myself but this is better than an Osserc vote I guess

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:44 AM

View PostRashan, on 08 June 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 June 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

I agree with Lock's assessment of the game, not necessarily with Ampelas. I found earlier Rashan's play suspicious, but now it's just annoying. Which is enough for a vote and this is where I'll put mine for now.

I'm around for most of the day so if we end up in a stalemate and the only way to move the game forward is an Osseric lynch, I can commit to that as well. But would prefer Rashan.

vote Rashan


I'd defend myself but this is better than an Osserc vote I guess


Rashan's alternately frivolous and Osseric defending posts bug me mightily. I voted for Osseric only half-seriously yesterday, and I'll go that way again if it's needed for a lynch today that we needed yesterday and didn't get, but right now I think a Rashan lynch is what's best for me and my faction.

Vote Rashan

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