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Mafia 143 - The Dreamlands Game Thread

#61 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:48 AM

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 06:02 AM, said:

View PostLock, on 24 May 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Hunt theory... since this isn't directly about village vs. wolf...

How about we all claim our faction (but not leader), forcing the solo players to choose a faction to fakeclaim?

As long as the members of both factions are honest, it should narrow down the hiding spots for the other two and catch them out by lynching where the numbers are too high.



Not sure how this would work - so say you get five instead of four people claiming each faction, how does that help narrow down anything?

Well you'd know that someone was lying, for starters.

Not hard to figure out how that narrows down the hunt.


That, by my count, narrows it down to exactly 10 suspects (of which 2 must be solos lying)

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:56 AM

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Hunt theory... since this isn't directly about village vs. wolf...

How about we all claim our faction (but not leader), forcing the solo players to choose a faction to fakeclaim?

As long as the members of both factions are honest, it should narrow down the hiding spots for the other two and catch them out by lynching where the numbers are too high.


Okay, you go first :wallbash:

Morning glory has arrived.

#63 User is offline   Kadagar Fant 

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:58 AM

View PostLock, on 24 May 2017 - 04:55 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 23 May 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

Vote: Trake


Rhymes with snake.

Must be scum.


Anyway, I'm happy to vote for this on day 1. Looking for scum in a faction game suggests an independent mindset. As currently best option for the serial killer

Vote Okral Lom


I like this. Maybe we have found the SK.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:59 AM

View PostTrake, on 24 May 2017 - 05:08 AM, said:

View PostLock, on 24 May 2017 - 04:47 AM, said:

View PostTrake, on 24 May 2017 - 03:14 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:53 AM, said:

View PostTrake, on 24 May 2017 - 12:38 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:27 AM, said:

Seems I touched a nerve.

Vote: Gait

Cough cough Uh, you should probably remove first.

On a site where votes are counted manually?

How petty.

Remove vote


Vote: Gait


Have you considered, I dunno, maybe playing a couple games with the house roles to see how we do things here before just bitching about the house rules?

The bolding thing is a courtesy to the mod to make keeping a current vote count just a tiny bit easier.

I have no intention of revealing my faction, and furthermore, I don't appreciate you setting me up as your false leader. It's obvious to anyone paying attention that I can't be at this point because revealing your leader on day one to everyone would put your faction at a serious disadvantage and doing so on purpose is pretty much playing against your win condition.

So, unless something even dumber comes along:

Vote Trake



This read like you were leading up to an Okral vote but then you vote for...yourself?


Ughhhh... coughcough That's embarrassing.
Remove vote
Vote Okral



That is hilarious.

Ha ha ha. You were the something dumber.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 07:05 AM

Mass reveals at beginnings of games just go against the very spirit of the game. I came here to play a mafia game as it was designed and balanced by the mod whom I fully trust to do it properly, not to try to find loopholes in rules to make the game easier for me, dammit.
Not to mention that in a similar game in the past everyone revealing their characters(because that's the thing that'd really work, not just revealing factions) at the start would have resulted in Blend restarting the game, so I assume it'd be same here.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 07:56 AM

View PostSerc, on 24 May 2017 - 07:05 AM, said:

Mass reveals at beginnings of games just go against the very spirit of the game. I came here to play a mafia game as it was designed and balanced by the mod whom I fully trust to do it properly, not to try to find loopholes in rules to make the game easier for me, dammit.
Not to mention that in a similar game in the past everyone revealing their characters(because that's the thing that'd really work, not just revealing factions) at the start would have resulted in Blend restarting the game, so I assume it'd be same here.



So you don't agree with Okral?

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 07:56 AM

It's late here, so going to bed.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:02 AM

View PostKadagar Fant, on 24 May 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Hunt theory... since this isn't directly about village vs. wolf...

How about we all claim our faction (but not leader), forcing the solo players to choose a faction to fakeclaim?

As long as the members of both factions are honest, it should narrow down the hiding spots for the other two and catch them out by lynching where the numbers are too high.


Okay, you go first :wallbash:

Morning glory has arrived.



View PostKadagar Fant, on 24 May 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

It's late here, so going to bed.


Is it?

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

View PostSerc, on 24 May 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

View PostKadagar Fant, on 24 May 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 24 May 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Hunt theory... since this isn't directly about village vs. wolf...

How about we all claim our faction (but not leader), forcing the solo players to choose a faction to fakeclaim?

As long as the members of both factions are honest, it should narrow down the hiding spots for the other two and catch them out by lynching where the numbers are too high.


Okay, you go first :wallbash:

Morning glory has arrived.



View PostKadagar Fant, on 24 May 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

It's late here, so going to bed.


Is it?


Yep, had my late night/early morning wank :)

Need to put my phone down.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 09:41 AM

It is Day 1. 17 hours and 15 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Okral Lom, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Serc, Trake, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Okral Lom ( Anomandaris, Lock, Trake )
1 Vote for Gait ( Okral Lom )

Players not voted: Gait, Kadagar Fant, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Serc, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:46 AM

I've been thinking about Okral's play yesterday and possible meanings. I considered a few scenarios, two of which seem particularly promising.

First, the one I discounted as the most unlikely:
Okral was signalling his leader Trake in the post that started the whole debate. I give him enough credit to trust he didn't do something this stupid.

Now, one I'm on the fence about:
There is an option that Okral is a leader who sets himself up as a lynch candidate to learn who his followers are. Having clear division lines makes sense for a leader especially in a game with no CFs but this early in the game it would be risky as fuck. Also, no one has really been defending him, so it's doubtful.

To the interesting part:
Okral could be the SK. Judging by the setup, it's the role with the lowest chance at winning, so starting with a gambit like this seems plausible. And the thing about division lines still applies here.

If any of these options is true, Okral is not on my team, so I'm okay with dropping him. Other than that, he might want to put himself on the radar because he has some fancy ass power that activates on being lynched. But there's no way to confirm that so whatever. I'll wait a bit more with the vote, to see what others think, but I'm on board with Okral lynch.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 11:44 AM

View PostPrazec Goul, on 24 May 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

Now, one I'm on the fence about:
There is an option that Okral is a leader who sets himself up as a lynch candidate to learn who his followers are. Having clear division lines makes sense for a leader especially in a game with no CFs but this early in the game it would be risky as fuck. Also, no one has really been defending him, so it's doubtful.


This post looks a little like KF knows that Olar is his elader and is asking me whether I'm with or against him. But that would pretty ballsy too and I'm not sure why should he be asking me.

View PostKadagar Fant, on 24 May 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 24 May 2017 - 07:05 AM, said:

Mass reveals at beginnings of games just go against the very spirit of the game. I came here to play a mafia game as it was designed and balanced by the mod whom I fully trust to do it properly, not to try to find loopholes in rules to make the game easier for me, dammit.
Not to mention that in a similar game in the past everyone revealing their characters(because that's the thing that'd really work, not just revealing factions) at the start would have resulted in Blend restarting the game, so I assume it'd be same here.



So you don't agree with Okral?


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 12:04 PM

Hm, fair point. Though Kadagar also floated the SK theory:

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View PostOkral Lom, on 23 May 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

Vote: Trake


Rhymes with snake.

Must be scum.


Anyway, I'm happy to vote for this on day 1. Looking for scum in a faction game suggests an independent mindset. As currently best option for the serial killer

Vote Okral Lom


I like this. Maybe we have found the SK.


Deflecting from your leader by calling them SK would be somewhat outside the realm of the ordinary. But we are in Dreamlands, after all Posted Image

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

I'm off the work. Be back in some hours.

I like where my vote is, so I'll just leave it there.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 12:35 PM

Running late for work. I should be around in about an hour.

Okral does seem highly "independent" atm, but I'd rather not rasher into anything with this much time left.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 01:50 PM

Vote Okral

Good chance of being an independent.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 01:51 PM

I am naked RIGHT NOW. (Jumping in the shower)

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 02:15 PM

Thanks for sharing...

Okral, makes me twitchy. I do believe he is being a straight shooter again and agree that game breaking logic is against the spirit of the game.

That all being said, I have only seen him in action in an M&P. So he could be playing games with us using his minimal reputation of a straight shooting game breaker to his advantage.

I want him out and given be is going to purgatory, maybe we can see if anyone wants him back.

vote okral

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:39 PM

It is Day 1. 11 hours and 18 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Okral Lom, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Serc, Trake, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Gait ( Okral Lom )
5 Votes for Okral Lom ( Anomandaris, Lock, Trake, Kadagar Fant, Rikkter )

Players not voted: Gait, Prazec Goul, Serc, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:41 PM

remove vote

I am still happy to vote that way but we do have some time before EoD.

Lack of resistance shows he could be independent as well.

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