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Mafia 142.5 - Bauchelain & Korbal Broach Game Thread

#661 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:33 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Jalan was a very strange kill considering he was suspected way more than several others.

Kinda makes me want to not townread Kilava for some reason.


He was vote... 4? On the train?

And SR made a case on him calling him "smooth", which clearly wasn't going anywhere.

And Amp jumped on (would make sense if killer AND symp distance from killer 2)

Hmm. Need to look @ what Galain thought of Kilava. I'll be back later, since it's almost home-time (possibly not till tom, though).

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:34 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

I'm guessing "townread" is their-speak for PI.

#664 User is offline   Nimander Golit 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:35 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

As a suspected player yourself, I doubt you would kill a fellow suspect and thin the herd of possible mislynch targets.

A townread killer, on the other hand, would not want to kill the other townread player because it brings more visibility to themselves.

Ya ken?

#665 User is offline   Nimander Golit 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

View PostRashan, on 11 May 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

I'm guessing "townread" is their-speak for PI.

π?

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

You know what. Potential D day today.

Might be best not to lynch.

Lynch wrong, NK. 2 VS 2

NO LYNCH NK then 3 vs 2.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

Just FYI - weekend freeze will begin when there are 12 hours remaining on the clock.

To our new players, this means that the timer will be frozen for the weekend. You can still chat, discuss, and vote over the weekend, but resolutions of anything that happens during weekend freeze will not likely take place until Monday morning.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#668 User is offline   Nimander Golit 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:39 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

You know what. Potential D day today.

Might be best not to lynch.

Lynch wrong, NK. 2 VS 2

NO LYNCH NK then 3 vs 2.

I pointed that out yesterday.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:41 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

You know what. Potential D day today.

Might be best not to lynch.

Lynch wrong, NK. 2 VS 2

NO LYNCH NK then 3 vs 2.

I pointed that out yesterday.

That would work nicely if BG reveals. Then if it's WCS, the 2 roles need to pick which of the 3 they feel is town.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:42 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

As a suspected player yourself, I doubt you would kill a fellow suspect and thin the herd of possible mislynch targets.

A townread killer, on the other hand, would not want to kill the other townread player because it brings more visibility to themselves.

Ya ken?


Is this dark tower speech? I lkke it.

Ya ken.

But Merrid is a townread for you, Rash, Kilava etc.

Amp wasn't. So it should clear me and Amp but I don't look st nks when piecing things together.

Why does my analysis of Merrid irk you?

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:42 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 11 May 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

I'm guessing "townread" is their-speak for PI.

π?

Probable Innocent

#672 User is offline   Nimander Golit 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:43 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

As a suspected player yourself, I doubt you would kill a fellow suspect and thin the herd of possible mislynch targets.

A townread killer, on the other hand, would not want to kill the other townread player because it brings more visibility to themselves.

Ya ken?


Is this dark tower speech? I lkke it.

Ya ken.

But Merrid is a townread for you, Rash, Kilava etc.

Amp wasn't. So it should clear me and Amp but I don't look st nks when piecing things together.

Why does my analysis of Merrid irk you?

Because it conflicts with my own, obv.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:44 PM

View PostRashan, on 11 May 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 11 May 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

If Kilava or Rashan turn out to be scum then you have played a fucking blinder but I have you both as firm town. Nimander is healer.

That leaves Merrid and Amp.

The problem with your theory is that I see Merrid and Amp killing obvious townreads.

Know who I see killing a suspected townie? A townread killer.

On the bright side, that means not you also.



What do you mean?

I'm guessing "townread" is their-speak for PI.

π?

Probable Innocent

I just like excuses to use π.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:47 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:04 AM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

*sigh*

So you've made that call all by yourself. You don't know who the Bodyguard is, if they've checked in or what they might think of your plan. Whilst I applaud you putting the idea out there early on so people can see it because I like to talk mechanics, it would have been much better for you to wait on the reactions of *all 10* players not just the 5 (4+you) who've been active so far. You've tried to force the reveal of a town role, regardless of the thoughts of the person holding that role. You've attempted to dictate the play of the other role purely to ensure your own survival whilst negating any skill on the part of the Bodyguard of correctly predicting who the kill will be. I don't like that.

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.



Merrid as a killer trying to get the symp to counter reveal? So we may lynch our healer.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:48 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:28 AM, said:

Here we go, from here. This is where SR starts to get heat, I am looking for those who are wishy or washy ie not certain of his innocence like I was OR ready to throw their partner under the bus. Everyone's post/vote has to be genuine up to their play so far.

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid might be stubborn town


The way Silchas slinked onto my wait was terrible.

remove vote

vote Silchas Ruin


Denul is immediately available for comment on the vote but posts twice without mentioning it and continues to joke around.

Merrid defends his play against Nim's accusations, does not comment on the SR at this point.

Denul continues to joke around.

Merrid continues to defends his play but does highlight the SR vote a little later.

He then votes Ampelas and mentions Jalan who both have not checked in.

Rashan comes along knocking down walls, and setting the thread alight with his impeccable logic.

Afterwards he says this

View PostRashan, on 08 May 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid might be stubborn town


The way Silchas slinked onto my wait was terrible.

remove vote

vote Silchas Ruin


Vote 2 on an aggro train on Day 1 is a more reasonable place to look for scum, I agree.



So Rashan is 99% not the other killer.

That 1% that says he is the killer, knows SR did a big mistake with that vote and is leaning in his direction BUT later he does berate me for ignoring SR which in a way sees SR lynched, maybe if I was pro SR lynch then there may have been more doubts?


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:50 PM

Ain't doing shite until the BG claims.

There are no more excuses for them to remain hidden. They may have stayed hidden one day too long already.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:50 PM

View PostKilava, on 11 May 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 07:32 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 11 May 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 11 May 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Or I just found it funnyThis game's supposed to be fun too
This kind of game is for people that find scumhunting "fun".Not being boorish louts.
That's rather unflatteringVote Nimander
Truth hurts.Enjoy your little spite vote.



View PostDenul, on 08 May 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

So tell me... what is the town motivation in maintaining a vote on an un-cc'ed role?The scum motivation is hoping that role is clumsy enough to get mislynched and disowning responsibility by saying, "oops, my vote was there since rvs and I didn't like his attitude".What does town get out of what Merrid is doing?
The same thing could be said of me. Just sayin'.



View PostDenul, on 08 May 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 08 May 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

The same thing could be said of me. Just sayin'.
In the sense that I left my vote there because I didn't like his attitude.


Very rapid (these are consecutive posts) defense of SR's vote on Nim. Proactive even.

Some might argue that's exactly what a partner wouldn't do.



Partner, no. But a symp might, and that's what Ampelas is driving at. It's the most attractive case I can see right now. Trouble is it doesn't necessarily point to the other killer as yet.

Not interested in hanging the symp, though.

Identifying the some in order to hunt for the second killer, I can understand. Hope this isn't anything more than that, though. It would be stupid to intentionally lynch the symp.

Also also, knowing who the symp is only really matters if they're trying to defend a suspected killing scum.

Symp hunting is, for the most part, smoke and mirrors used to hide lack of productivity.



No one is interested in hanging the symp. It's about looking for potential connections. At the moment I think Jalan or Merrid is most likely the other killer, based on what others have uncovered. Haven't done my own read as yet.



Where was Kilava's vote in the end as his top suspects were Merrid/Jalan.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:51 PM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Merrid backing up SR's excuse for his vote.

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:05 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 08 May 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

SR: umm, second vote on a revealed healer: that's just daft. Not only are you voting on the train that Merrid himself expected to get no traction, you are voting a revealed healer . Like, why?


I was obviously trying to catch the scum attempting a quickhammer!


(by scum I mean the whole scum team)


View PostMerrid, on 08 May 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

Please tell me that doesn't actually happen on d1.


Only couple of times a year


What do you mean, those are some of our finest moments!


and once again Denul joining in with them

View PostDenul, on 09 May 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 08 May 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

Please tell me that doesn't actually happen on d1.


Only couple of times a year


What do you mean, those are some of our finest moments!


I know! It sounded sad in my head.


The last time we caught Scum on Day 1 (Blend) I got lynched on Day 2 (or close to it) for hammering!

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Regarding Symp coaching: Whether the Symp is a rookie or a grizzled vet, Scum doesn't know who they are one way or the other. It's irrelevant.



Denul the symp highlighting he is the symp to both killers?



Still think this is possible,

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:52 PM

You know Denul is dead, right?

Wait... He IS dead, isn't he?

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:54 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 08:50 PM, said:

Ain't doing shite until the BG claims.

There are no more excuses for them to remain hidden. They may have stayed hidden one day too long already.


How so?

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