[Merrid]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Anyone that does not win with town is a threat to town.

That means symp too.

Especially since the symp flips as town, it's getting rid of a known antitown voice.

But if you lynch the roled town then sure you know the other is a symp but thread just knowingly lynched a town role and in doing so leaves the other role utterly exposed. So you take out the symp at a 50/50 chance of the price of both roled town? HOW is that worth it?

[Nimander Golit]

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Symp's not worth the BG's life, especially if the BG could get a killer instead and not have town need to use a lynch to acquire that. A known symp is not a threat until it's DDay. You can just ignore their posts, you can even literally use the ignore function to not see their posts at all.

You can't ignore the posts of a player you don't know the identity of.

[Merrid]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.

I don't care about dying when the result is scum dies next.

Also, you're already voting me.

Without the counterclaim.

Looking mighty scummy.

Oh yes, I had meant to remove in that post.

I'm gonna leave it there because.

[Merrid]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Symp's not worth the BG's life, especially if the BG could get a killer instead and not have town need to use a lynch to acquire that. A known symp is not a threat until it's DDay. You can just ignore their posts, you can even literally use the ignore function to not see their posts at all.

You can't ignore the posts of a player you don't know the identity of.

And you can't know the opinion of the half the thread that hasn't checked in yet on your plan. If everyone says it's a daft plan like everyone who has commented on it so far then don't you think you should have thought "well they might have a point here..."?

[Kilava]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

No.

If two people claim the same role, one HAS to be scum.

Lynch only within those two. If it flips town, the next day is a guaranteed scum lynch.

I feel like mafia is a relatively new game here?

This is what I just said, yes. WCS, we spend first day lynching town role, second day lynching the symp. Result? One roled town down, one scum who doesn't count towards town victory down, two unroled townies dead at night, two killers still alive day 3.

[Nimander Golit]

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Anyone that does not win with town is a threat to town.

That means symp too.

Especially since the symp flips as town, it's getting rid of a known antitown voice.

But if you lynch the roled town then sure you know the other is a symp but thread just knowingly lynched a town role and in doing so leaves the other role utterly exposed. So you take out the symp at a 50/50 chance of the price of both roled town? HOW is that worth it?

If I'm not cc'ed, it's pretty obvious that I'm the doctor.

If I am, it's not like the bg has claimed as yet.

You may have a point in that it is best for everyone to post without the cc before the bg claims.

You know what? Even if two bg's claim, as long as I'm not countered we should leave them both alive until the first scum dies.

Scum won't kill the real one because the fake will be auto-lynched anyway.

Later on, the fake will be outed by play and association.

[Silchas Ruin]

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

No.

If two people claim the same role, one HAS to be scum.

Lynch only within those two. If it flips town, the next day is a guaranteed scum lynch.

I feel like mafia is a relatively new game here?

This is what I just said, yes. WCS, we spend first day lynching town role, second day lynching the symp. Result? One roled town down, one scum who doesn't count towards town victory down, two unroled townies dead at night, two killers still alive day 3.

Aand the second roled townie who revealed probably dead at night as there no longer will be anyone to heal/protect them

[Kilava]

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

[Nimander Golit]

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.

I don't care about dying when the result is scum dies next.

Also, you're already voting me.

Without the counterclaim.

Looking mighty scummy.

Oh yes, I had meant to remove in that post.

I'm gonna leave it there because.

Lol

Leaving your vote on an un-cc'ed power role is a scum claim.

More votes on Merrid.

[Nimander Golit]

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

I'm all about game breaking.

I don't always have the perfect answer, but that's why the rest of town is here... to help figure that stuff out.

[Merrid]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.

I don't care about dying when the result is scum dies next.

Also, you're already voting me.

Without the counterclaim.

Looking mighty scummy.

Oh yes, I had meant to remove in that post.

I'm gonna leave it there because.

Lol

Leaving your vote on an un-cc'ed power role is a scum claim.

More votes on Merrid.

No, it's a gesture of how ridiculous I consider your position to be. No-one else is going to join it so there's no risk. I'm expressing what I think of your play.

I'm going to go do some shit and leave that vote there till something better comes along.

[Nimander Golit]

^ scum

That's all the "better" we need, chief.

[Kilava]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

I'm all about game breaking.

I don't always have the perfect answer, but that's why the rest of town is here... to help figure that stuff out.

lol, it's like going in the fridge and cupboards, throwing all the ingredients for dinner out all over the kitchen, and then saying, 'well, I've done my part!'

[Nimander Golit]

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.

I don't care about dying when the result is scum dies next.

Also, you're already voting me.

Without the counterclaim.

Looking mighty scummy.

Oh yes, I had meant to remove in that post.

I'm gonna leave it there because.

Lol

Leaving your vote on an un-cc'ed power role is a scum claim.

More votes on Merrid.

No, it's a gesture of how ridiculous I consider your position to be. No-one else is going to join it so there's no risk. I'm expressing what I think of your play.

I'm going to go do some shit and leave that vote there till something better comes along.

Note: Merrid isn't interested in sorting me, he's calculating the risk of my push on him.

That's textbook scum behavior.

[Nimander Golit]

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

I'm all about game breaking.

I don't always have the perfect answer, but that's why the rest of town is here... to help figure that stuff out.

lol, it's like going in the fridge and cupboards, throwing all the ingredients for dinner out all over the kitchen, and then saying, 'well, I've done my part!'

Just because you have the ingredients in front of you, doesn't mean they're being wasted.

[Nimander Golit]

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

I'm all about game breaking.

I don't always have the perfect answer, but that's why the rest of town is here... to help figure that stuff out.

lol, it's like going in the fridge and cupboards, throwing all the ingredients for dinner out all over the kitchen, and then saying, 'well, I've done my part!'

You're also insinuating that I'm finished cooking.

My push on Merrid proves that to be false.

[Galain]

Here, going home. Not here

May be here a little bit later but probably not. You hear?

[Kilava]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I like the gumption - really started the game proper off quickly!

I'm all about game breaking.

I don't always have the perfect answer, but that's why the rest of town is here... to help figure that stuff out.

lol, it's like going in the fridge and cupboards, throwing all the ingredients for dinner out all over the kitchen, and then saying, 'well, I've done my part!'

Just because you have the ingredients in front of you, doesn't mean they're being wasted.

No, but why am I always the one who has to clean up?




In any case, this could prove useful even without further reveals. Killers aren't now likely to take the risk of targetting you. Which leaves you free to do your thing if you are a healer.

[Nimander Golit]

At this point, Merrid and Kilava are my primary scumreads for reasons that should be self-evident.

If anyone needs clarification on those reads, feel free to ask.

[Kilava]

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

At this point, Merrid and Kilava are my primary scumreads for reasons that should be self-evident.

If anyone needs clarification on those reads, feel free to ask.

I can't say the reasons are self-evident, no. Aside from that we disagreed on your initial premise? I questioned you, so that makes me scummy?

So I guess that's me asking for clarification.