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Mafia 141.5 Game Thread - Innsmouth

#601 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:20 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

You've got to be shitting me with that vote Cast. Last desperate ploy of scum, or just dumb play? Sure, let's let scum play this hand instead of putting pressure down with our only weapon. It's been a poor day overall, I know I've not contributed either, but that's just the way today's worked out. Gonna stick with what I feel best with.

Vote Jalan


Hmm, interesting reaction there Thyr. I mean, why wouldn't you want to go to another day with a smaller pool for scum to hide in?


Because it's unlikely to help us out much, obviously. What, you're relying on scum to do us a favour? In all probabilty we'll still be saying the same things about the same players, no?

How about going another day with one less scum? Or, maybe, just maybe, ending this thing because actually Denul turns out to have been a killer. Or even just seeing some vote instead of letting the likes of Jalan walk this day without getting their hands dirty.

Oh hey, maybe scum will just kill themselves! Let's cross our fingers while we vote night.


Or vote cast?

#602 User is offline   Thyrllan 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:35 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 11 April 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

You've got to be shitting me with that vote Cast. Last desperate ploy of scum, or just dumb play? Sure, let's let scum play this hand instead of putting pressure down with our only weapon. It's been a poor day overall, I know I've not contributed either, but that's just the way today's worked out. Gonna stick with what I feel best with.

Vote Jalan


Hmm, interesting reaction there Thyr. I mean, why wouldn't you want to go to another day with a smaller pool for scum to hide in?


Because it's unlikely to help us out much, obviously. What, you're relying on scum to do us a favour? In all probabilty we'll still be saying the same things about the same players, no?

How about going another day with one less scum? Or, maybe, just maybe, ending this thing because actually Denul turns out to have been a killer. Or even just seeing some vote instead of letting the likes of Jalan walk this day without getting their hands dirty.

Oh hey, maybe scum will just kill themselves! Let's cross our fingers while we vote night.


Or vote cast?



Oh man, you're doing such a good job prodding me I just can't take it! I'm giving another option which I still feel more confident with, Jalan's play today as well continuing to cement it for me. I've not decided whether I'm prepared to switch to Cast, and your pushing here just makes me that little bit more wary. I give you props though for actually casting a vote. Another read beckons then.

#603 User is offline   Cast 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:38 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

You've got to be shitting me with that vote Cast. Last desperate ploy of scum, or just dumb play? Sure, let's let scum play this hand instead of putting pressure down with our only weapon. It's been a poor day overall, I know I've not contributed either, but that's just the way today's worked out. Gonna stick with what I feel best with.

Vote Jalan


Hmm, interesting reaction there Thyr. I mean, why wouldn't you want to go to another day with a smaller pool for scum to hide in?


Because it's unlikely to help us out much, obviously. What, you're relying on scum to do us a favour? In all probabilty we'll still be saying the same things about the same players, no?

How about going another day with one less scum? Or, maybe, just maybe, ending this thing because actually Denul turns out to have been a killer. Or even just seeing some vote instead of letting the likes of Jalan walk this day without getting their hands dirty.

Oh hey, maybe scum will just kill themselves! Let's cross our fingers while we vote night.


I'm talking a single night here Thyr. Which gives higher probability of hitting scum 2in6 or 2in5? I don't know about you but I like 50/50 better than 40/60. Then again, your reaction to the possibility of a smaller pool of scum really makes me think I'm onto something with you as scum.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:40 PM

You know what? Fuck it.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:42 PM

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 11 April 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

You've got to be shitting me with that vote Cast. Last desperate ploy of scum, or just dumb play? Sure, let's let scum play this hand instead of putting pressure down with our only weapon. It's been a poor day overall, I know I've not contributed either, but that's just the way today's worked out. Gonna stick with what I feel best with.

Vote Jalan


Hmm, interesting reaction there Thyr. I mean, why wouldn't you want to go to another day with a smaller pool for scum to hide in?


Because it's unlikely to help us out much, obviously. What, you're relying on scum to do us a favour? In all probabilty we'll still be saying the same things about the same players, no?

How about going another day with one less scum? Or, maybe, just maybe, ending this thing because actually Denul turns out to have been a killer. Or even just seeing some vote instead of letting the likes of Jalan walk this day without getting their hands dirty.

Oh hey, maybe scum will just kill themselves! Let's cross our fingers while we vote night.


I'm talking a single night here Thyr. Which gives higher probability of hitting scum 2in6 or 2in5? I don't know about you but I like 50/50 better than 40/60. Then again, your reaction to the possibility of a smaller pool of scum really makes me think I'm onto something with you as scum.



You couldn't hit scum if it was just you and one other. What gives higher probability of a town victory, looking at players and putting down your own votes and opinions, or mooching around feeling sorry for yourself during the day and then voting night to let scum get on with it?

I'll also note how you're adamant here that there's definitely two scum left. Yes, probably there are, but only scum know that for certain. Now that's interesting.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:44 PM

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

You know what? Fuck it.

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Lol, sweaty Betty getting nervy? Quick to cave from your night vote when called on it aren't you?

#607 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:53 PM

Working on a re-read of Day 2, and I fail to comprehend why we failed to lynch Day 3 with all the suspects in clear limelight.

Day 3 better have some answers.

#608 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:00 PM

Okay.

Vote Cast

For two reasons: Amp is the person I trust most and his vote is there. The Night vote. Go out with a bang and don't let scum slowly strangle you at night. Thyr has it right. Scum will keep around people (like myself) that can be easily voted on.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:02 PM

Should I be smoking something to get what is going on here? Voting Night with hours left is pointless and stinks of scum trying to roll the phase to a time they're confident of dominating thread in. Agree to timeout yes but don't provoke it.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:03 PM

Woah X-post


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#611 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:04 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 07 April 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 07 April 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

Cast I think I always see as scummy even when they aren't so I admit there may be a cloud over this player but I am sticking in likely town after my rereads.



Can you expand on what in your reread made you think this? Because currently I am thinking Jalan and Cast as partners.

Ok, middle of day 3. Note this for posterity.

#612 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:14 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:23 AM, said:

Maybe yes, maybe no. I guess we'll find out, eh?


Alright, let's test.

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View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

Hold on, Cast needs another 2 votes if it's five to lynch, right? What's the likelihood of Galain showing up? I might switch back to Jalan.



View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:44 AM, said:

Nope, I'm gonna stick where I am. The rules are modkills don't affect vote count, which you know. So I can only assume you're trying to stop a lynch by trying to goad me into voting for you. Because you won't vote for yourself to make it 5, and neither Ampelas nor Galain are likely to come back in time.

So it's up to Kilava and Silchas to make it happen on Jalan.


Here's thyr's late Day 3 antics.

I'm almost sure that there had to be A scum between the 3 people I was talking with at day end (cast, SR and Thyr).

I'm trying to see how likely the thyr/cast pairing that Jalan was going on about is now, given his pretty adamant refusal to vote Cast today.

#613 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:16 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 10 April 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Welp, that was a fiasco.

I'm around-ish. But working


Pretty much. But not all bad, at least the game's not over, so the symp must be dead. That gives us another avenue of investigation - can we identify the probable symp and who they might have been symping (the answer is 'no' if it was Denul :( )?

Nothing has really changed concerning Jalan for me, except perhaps one thing: Although I still like Jalan-Cast as a scum partnership, I did note that Silchas did not switch to Jalan when they had the opportunity to do so, and get the lynch. So it may be that actually Jalan and Silchas are the ones in cahoots.


As mentioned earlier, looking for symp is asking for trouble.

#614 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:22 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 10 April 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 10 April 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 10 April 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

We are in day two here;

View PostCast, on 06 April 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 06 April 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

Osseric is making the most sense atm. Merrid appears to be trying.

Denul and Galain are non-entities, and Cast... I need to re-read, because I'm blanking on stuff wot he actually said.

I need to figure out if I think Ampeals is using scummy logic because he's scum, or because he's being an idiot. But that'll wait until tomorrow, because I don't want to go to bed with a headache.


Yeah, anything you look for on me is going to be day 1.
I've been non-existent today. Life has seriously gotten under my skin and I've been away from the internet all day.

I'm only posting something now to avoid the modkill and taking a moment to see if there is anything that looks likely enough to secure a vote to go into day 3 to help support. I should be more useful going forward after I get some sleep.


View PostMerrid, on 06 April 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

What I find interesting is all the accusations and votes against me based only on a couple of quotes from my day 1 play. Ampelas is presenting a very selective picture


Similar sort of voice, signalling?



Similar sort of voice in that they're both writing in English? Cast may be my joint-number 2 suspect, and I agree with other parts of your analysis, but even so, this is absolutely stretching a link to breaking point.


Slight defense. Gotcha.


Thyr, who is your #1 and other #2 suspect again?



You're number 1. Yesterday I thought Cast was your partner. But after SR didn't switch to you, it's possible they're your partner instead.

He also didn't follow you on Cast at first. And as soon as he did, you removed.

That whole sequence bothers me. Jalan's late game play is much better than Cast's "woe is me" act ad nauseum, so the idea that you are trying to elicit our pity for you partner Cast is sitting easier with me than a Jalan-SR partnership right now (although Jalan's Day 2 wifom case would make sense as distancing in that context...)

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:26 PM

I'm actually happy with my vote for now.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 06:37 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 11 April 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 11 April 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

My vote is going to the same place it did yesterday. Jalan has done nothing in the last several hours to convince me of innocence.

Vote Jalan


Was Jalan even your top suspect yesterday?


No, but he's the one I settled on. My primary yesterday was Kilava. My problem with the Kilava lynch now is that there is a seeming lack of a connection to other players (besides an unlikely potential connection to you) as you've pointed out.

My biggest issue today comes from the fact that almost every player left has decided that likelihood of me being scum is almost guaranteed. I'm not, but there's pretty much no way that I'm going to get through to you guys after my sorry play so far. I've made a shit-ton of mistakes that paint me in a crimson light. :(

I don't see today ending in any way beyond my (incorrect) lynch. They've already got your backing, and I'm pretty sure at this point that you're town. All they need is one more townie to vote my way to tie this up.

FWIW, I've settled on Jalan/Thyr as the scum pairing.


I'm currently really not happy about my impression of Thyr. But I'd need some monster quote tags, so that'd wait till I get home.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

Oh god damn it.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

Well timed and sequenced.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

Congrats scum.

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