[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 20 hours and 23 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Gamelon ( Kaschan )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Serc )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Fanderay )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Bek Okhan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Mockra, Okaros

[Gamelon]

Bek Okhan, on 22 March 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 22 March 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

Not exactly, you read it right in that I've noted the post from Gamelon, but I still think Mockra is more likely scum at the minute, based on my feelings on the post quoted and sercs interactions

Cue violent flashbacks. This feels like reading my own posts when I'm scum.

vote Fanderay

What do you mean by this? What is so scummy about that post?


Uh oh guys, I'm defending Fanderay again. Gotta be scum!!!

[Bek Okhan]

It has the vibe of oh look, I'm giving options but I knew from the beginning where my vote was going

Which is also very visible in this sequence of posts:

Fanderay, on 21 March 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Looks like we're heading for Malazan mafia day 1 101.
I'm still rather leaning toward Mockra/serc vote, there's a post that caught my eye, I'm going to go find it again

Fanderay, on 21 March 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 21 March 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

Serc, on 21 March 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Mockra had a vote on him from Kaschan, so if I wanted a, what did you call it, a handy day one lynch then why not add to that vote?

Mockra talked about the killers yet Gamelon zoomed in on a particular role.

We don't even know if that role is in the game either!

Hey, let's not lie here. Mockra said a certain someone (we all know he was talking about Macros) was not going to be happy with the roles. I commented that none of the roles are non-standard except for the one non-standard role in the bunch. I all it non-standard because it's not in any of the Mafia 101 stuff, and, frankly, it's the first time I've seen such a role in over 100 games. I don't see how that is role speculation in any way, shape or form, nor is it implying that I think the role is IN the game.

But Serc made a slightly true comment about how I said something that could easily be misconstrued. I must be scum!!!

This post, it's been referenced already but I think it bears highlighting again if for no other reason than it's delicious irony.
Mockra doesn't mention or even handwave Macros' potential reaction to the set up it's a very clear and separate post in which Hanas basically says 'Mac is gona shit'. This kind of blatant mistake is the kind of thing that Macros loves to jump all over.

I feel, after another swift reread, that if Gamelon is scum then I would tether him to Alkend.


Edited for autocorrect shenanigans

Fanderay, on 21 March 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

Mockra, on 20 March 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Alright I've spent last few minutes freaking out about the scum:town ratio but I'm calm now, it's a list of roles that MAY be in the game. Anyway the lack of

Quote

As long as both of you are alive, you may have off-thread communications with _____.

line in killer's PM makes me think they're alone (yes I've read this

Path-Shaper, on 20 March 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:

Any of the above roles may be in the game individually or as a pair.

) and their fellas are either symp+cf or just the evil promotable cf symp.

For mockra for me it comes back to this post. It's a very leading role spec post. Trying to to get us to pigeon hole our set up thought processes, as someone else (Bek iIrc) says, our job is to nail the killer(s).

Fanderay, on 21 March 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

remove vote
Vote Mockra

[Gamelon]

Bek Okhan, on 22 March 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

It has the vibe of oh look, I'm giving options but I knew from the beginning where my vote was going

Which is also very visible in this sequence of posts:

Okay, so I see how it seems like he probably had it out for Mockra from the beginning, but why does that make him scum?

[Gamelon]

I should note, btw, that the 'case' on Mockra rests mostly on the fact that he was role speculating. HOWEVER, he was only role speculating about the scum team and didn't say a word about the town team. As townies, it behooves us to try and figure out how many scum there are so we have an idea of when D Day will be, how many people we have to lynch, etc. etc. etc., so I really don't like the Mockra vote.

[Okaros]

Serc, on 22 March 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Maybe it is early into the game but there are quite a few players with little content and little to go on, Bek, Okaros, Hanas, Iparth etc.

Keep in mind that we're playing with 48 hour days. I've noticed that the majority of activity during a usual game occurs within the first 8ish hours and then lulls until the last 12. I don't really see a reason that'll be much different this game.

That said, I'm about to be unavailable for 2-3 hours but should be around after that.

[Serc]

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

I should note, btw, that the 'case' on Mockra rests mostly on the fact that he was role speculating. HOWEVER, he was only role speculating about the scum team and didn't say a word about the town team. As townies, it behooves us to try and figure out how many scum there are so we have an idea of when D Day will be, how many people we have to lynch, etc. etc. etc., so I really don't like the Mockra vote.

First thing you have said that I agree with.

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 22 March 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

I should note, btw, that the 'case' on Mockra rests mostly on the fact that he was role speculating. HOWEVER, he was only role speculating about the scum team and didn't say a word about the town team. As townies, it behooves us to try and figure out how many scum there are so we have an idea of when D Day will be, how many people we have to lynch, etc. etc. etc., so I really don't like the Mockra vote.

First thing you have said that I agree with.

Well don't I feel special now!!

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on 21 March 2017 - 10:10 PM, said:

The sentiment would make sense if we were at the end of the day and already deciding between small fixed number of suspects and Fande decided to vote elsewhere, but that's clearly not the case.

??? Not sure what you're trying to say here....

[Gamelon]

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

I should note, btw, that the 'case' on Mockra rests mostly on the fact that he was role speculating. HOWEVER, he was only role speculating about the scum team and didn't say a word about the town team. As townies, it behooves us to try and figure out how many scum there are so we have an idea of when D Day will be, how many people we have to lynch, etc. etc. etc., so I really don't like the Mockra vote.

First thing you have said that I agree with.

Well don't I feel special now!!

OMG, guys!! Guys!!!! Serc agreed with me! He's my scum partner! Get him!!!

[Bek Okhan]

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 22 March 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

It has the vibe of oh look, I'm giving options but I knew from the beginning where my vote was going

Which is also very visible in this sequence of posts:

Okay, so I see how it seems like he probably had it out for Mockra from the beginning, but why does that make him scum?

Because if you're town and go after someone, you build a case on them, instead of throwing a couple of half-baked ideas and then deciding on what you were planning from the beginning.

As for mech spec, I expect 8v2. At 7v3, D2 is likely D-day, that's way harsh.

The only way it could be 7v3 is if scum has the non-promotable coroner who doesn't know the killer.

[Gamelon]

Gods, this game is so boring!!!

It'd certainly be fun if people actually, you know, participated.

[Alkend]

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

[Alkend]

Okaros, on 21 March 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

Gamelon's play has made me double check thwart there isn't a jester in play.

Let's face it though, town has been on a losing streak of late, and I don't blame Gamelon for pointing out shitty play tactics that have been repeatedly and consistently losing the game for us.

Is that all you have to say?

vote Okaros

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 16 hours and 26 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Gamelon ( Kaschan )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Serc )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Fanderay )
1 Vote for Okaros ( Alkend )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Bek Okhan )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Mockra, Okaros

[Gamelon]

Alkend, on 22 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

Oh, I'm terribly sorry if I can't say anything about posts that say "Waaaah, I'm a douche canoe and I'm going to jump on the fucking easy targets just because I don't want to actually take time play the game. Here's a shitty vote with no real case. See you in 24 hours!"

[Kaschan]

Alkend, on 22 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

If you think he's symping then who is he symping? Maybe he wants to be ignored?

[Alkend]

Kaschan, on 22 March 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Alkend, on 22 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

If you think he's symping then who is he symping? Maybe he wants to be ignored?

Yeah, that's the corollary of that idea. Not sure who he might be symping yet, but he just feels too "in your face" not to have an agenda.

[Alkend]

Gamelon, on 22 March 2017 - 05:41 PM, said:

Alkend, on 22 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

Oh, I'm terribly sorry if I can't say anything about posts that say "Waaaah, I'm a douche canoe and I'm going to jump on the fucking easy targets just because I don't want to actually take time play the game. Here's a shitty vote with no real case. See you in 24 hours!"

Criticizing shitty votes is all well and good. But that can't be all you're doing, or people will think you're an annoying spazz.

Kinda like I am thinking right now.

[Gamelon]

I am an annoying spaz. Better waste your vote on me!