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Mafia 141 - Murder in the Morgue Hospitals aren't safe places!

#141 User is offline   Gamelon 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 01:33 PM

Morning folks. I see we failed to get a lynch. Sorry about the no-vote, but the site went down before I had a chance to vote yesterday.

I'm not sure I believe Fanderay's reveal. I believed it at first, but he wasn't killed, and he says he healed Hanas which, like, why?

#142 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:04 PM

I looked at the player list.
Hanas is a natural kill target, has drawn zero attention so far and this would be highly unlikely to be in the mixer for day two lynch wagons.
I revealed with 30 odd minutes in the day so I'm alive because either
1- killer didn't change kill, given the timeframe available this is not unlikely
2- a guards actions. I'm ruling 2 as slightly less likely as if there is a guard they only get 2 shots.

#143 User is offline   Bek Okhan 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:18 PM

This is the entirety of Hanas' presence on thread so far. Better grab a coffee, because it's a long read:

View PostHanas, on 20 March 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

That's your idea of basically M&P???

Mac will have a stroke.


Clearly a kill target Posted Image

#144 User is offline   Iparth Erule 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:18 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

I looked at the player list.
Hanas is a natural kill target, has drawn zero attention so far and this would be highly unlikely to be in the mixer for day two lynch wagons.
I revealed with 30 odd minutes in the day so I'm alive because either
1- killer didn't change kill, given the timeframe available this is not unlikely
2- a guards actions. I'm ruling 2 as slightly less likely as if there is a guard they only get 2 shots.


How is Hanas a natural kill target?

#145 User is offline   Gamelon 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:46 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

I looked at the player list.
Hanas is a natural kill target, has drawn zero attention so far and this would be highly unlikely to be in the mixer for day two lynch wagons.
I revealed with 30 odd minutes in the day so I'm alive because either
1- killer didn't change kill, given the timeframe available this is not unlikely
2- a guards actions. I'm ruling 2 as slightly less likely as if there is a guard they only get 2 shots.


I'm not a particularly big fan of your continuing to speculate about town roles.

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:02 PM

How is Hanas not a kill target?
He's a nothing player. This is who to kill as a killer. Me (pre reveal) mockra and Gamelon have had scrutiny. Serc and Alkend have been noted (by me ambient, but lynching me would have swung the spotlight back on whoever I was suspicious off) kaschan had a vote switch,Bek has said at least something and okaros got ratty with someone.
That left Hanas and epath erule, eparth has done more than Hanas and thus has more to use.

#147 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:04 PM

I'm not particularly inclined to beleive the reveal either.

This also is a very good point:

View PostBek Okhan, on 23 March 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

Also, this doesn't add up:

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

On the train I dislike Mockra the most (obviously) but Alkend has been racking up the symp points all day



View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

I'm a gambling man, and my bet is that scum didn't see the reveal in time to change kill choice to me.
I only put the Hana's choice in post reveal, I was going to save my heals till a vpi needed them.


Judging by the posting times, your main candidate for scum - Mockra - was likely to be around when you revealed. Actually, the only people from your train who were not around at timeout were Alkend and Iparth.

EDIT
broken formatting


And no, someone who is supposed to be modkilled with the end of the day is certainly not a natural kill target.

The lack of counter-reveal is not that surpirising, this reveal looked desperate af, I say let everyone speak their opinions first before a true healer counter-reveals if there's one. At this moment I consider re-attempting yesterday's lynch to be the best option and if that's majority's opinion we don't need the reveal.

#148 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:05 PM

Gamelon

I'm not speculating in town roles, Im clarifying my night action and it's possible permutations.
I have not, and do not want any guards who may or may not be out there to come forward. I'm laying out the facts for us to carry on with the day.

We're getting another shot at day one. This time with a little more info.

#149 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:06 PM

vote Mockra

I agree let's repeat day one :p

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:06 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

How is Hanas not a kill target?
He's a nothing player. This is who to kill as a killer. Me (pre reveal) mockra and Gamelon have had scrutiny. Serc and Alkend have been noted (by me ambient, but lynching me would have swung the spotlight back on whoever I was suspicious off) kaschan had a vote switch,Bek has said at least something and okaros got ratty with someone.
That left Hanas and epath erule, eparth has done more than Hanas and thus has more to use.


By my count, Hanas should have been modkilled 7 minutes after the end of the day. Now they've got I think a hour and 2 minutes.

#151 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:08 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:05 PM, said:

Gamelon

I'm not speculating in town roles, Im clarifying my night action and it's possible permutations.
I have not, and do not want any guards who may or may not be out there to come forward. I'm laying out the facts for us to carry on with the day.


I agree here that none of your speculations so far seem any detrimental to town, unless I missed something.

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:09 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

vote Mockra

I agree let's repeat day one :p


You don't think your reveal looks real dodgy?

#153 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

No. I think the dog pile on me out of nowhere looks dodgy as fuck. I wake up and what do I see? A load thinly at best reasoned votes, I log back on a while later and there's 2 fucking drive by drop in.
I reveal be no one removes, despite there being at least one player FOR DEFINITE on thread posting, leaving a claimed healer on L-1.

For me, again today, the vote is Gamelon (tied to Alkend in my mind) or Mockra (tied to serc in my mind)

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:19 PM

Not had much time as I'd like today. Fanderay reveals as healer when at L1 with 30 minutes left in the day. Just smells of desperation.

Now I would 100% not want a counter reveal, I suggest we lynch Fanderay. This is why..

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Doctor: You work tirelessly to keep your patients alive.

You are a Healer.

- Twice during the game, you may select an alt that you would like to heal. If that alt is targetted by a Killer at night, they will not die.
- You will be informed after each night how many heals you have remaining.
- You will not be informed if a kill was averted as a result of your actions.

You will CF as 'Innocent'.



He is telling us that he used one out of his two heals on a player who had one post and could be mod-killed. That is way too far fetched. As a healer with only two uses surely you'd save them for when the probability of the heal working would be high. Like on a guard reveal later in the game or something like that.

Vote Fanderay

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:20 PM

Back, sorry I missed timeout. I'll have to reread to see why the pileup on Fanderay. There seemed to be considerable resistance to Gamelon so I may vote that way again.

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:22 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

No. I think the dog pile on me out of nowhere looks dodgy as fuck. I wake up and what do I see? A load thinly at best reasoned votes, I log back on a while later and there's 2 fucking drive by drop in.


May I remidn it was a D1? How's that any different from your typical D1 train? I'm just wondering what did you expect people to do when you woke up to minimal activity over last couple of hours and having 3 votes on yourself with nobody else having more than one?

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

For me, again today, the vote is Gamelon (tied to Alkend in my mind) or Mockra (tied to serc in my mind)


May I also remind you that paired killers/symp would most likely attempt some distancing?

Also for the record I also saw your reveal before timeout, didn't have a lot of time to post but I could have made the time to remove my vote if I wanted to, I didn't(exactly, just like Serc).

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:23 PM

View PostFanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

No. I think the dog pile on me out of nowhere looks dodgy as fuck. I wake up and what do I see? A load thinly at best reasoned votes, I log back on a while later and there's 2 fucking drive by drop in.
I reveal be no one removes, despite there being at least one player FOR DEFINITE on thread posting, leaving a claimed healer on L-1.

For me, again today, the vote is Gamelon (tied to Alkend in my mind) or Mockra (tied to serc in my mind)


I was around and I was not removing because I did not believe you. I asked you why you didn't reveal earlier when you had 3 votes and you just said Gamelon and Mockra where on the table. How does that persuade me you were genuine?

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

View PostSerc, on 23 March 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Not had much time as I'd like today. Fanderay reveals as healer when at L1 with 30 minutes left in the day. Just smells of desperation.

Now I would 100% not want a counter reveal, I suggest we lynch Fanderay. This is why..

Quote

Doctor: You work tirelessly to keep your patients alive.

You are a Healer.

- Twice during the game, you may select an alt that you would like to heal. If that alt is targetted by a Killer at night, they will not die.
- You will be informed after each night how many heals you have remaining.
- You will not be informed if a kill was averted as a result of your actions.

You will CF as 'Innocent'.



He is telling us that he used one out of his two heals on a player who had one post and could be mod-killed. That is way too far fetched. As a healer with only two uses surely you'd save them for when the probability of the heal working would be high. Like on a guard reveal later in the game or something like that.

Vote Fanderay



Very good point re: the two heals. I'd be willing to vote Fanderay out.

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

I need to sit down and reread day 1 on the big screen.
Y'all think you can keep it in your pants for 3/4 hours before trying to hang your healer?

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:33 PM

View PostGamelon, on 23 March 2017 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 23 March 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Not had much time as I'd like today. Fanderay reveals as healer when at L1 with 30 minutes left in the day. Just smells of desperation.

Now I would 100% not want a counter reveal, I suggest we lynch Fanderay. This is why..

Quote

Doctor: You work tirelessly to keep your patients alive.

You are a Healer.

- Twice during the game, you may select an alt that you would like to heal. If that alt is targetted by a Killer at night, they will not die.
- You will be informed after each night how many heals you have remaining.
- You will not be informed if a kill was averted as a result of your actions.

You will CF as 'Innocent'.



He is telling us that he used one out of his two heals on a player who had one post and could be mod-killed. That is way too far fetched. As a healer with only two uses surely you'd save them for when the probability of the heal working would be high. Like on a guard reveal later in the game or something like that.

Vote Fanderay



Very good point re: the two heals. I'd be willing to vote Fanderay out.



I'm sorry.
What?
Revealed healer withholds heal in anticipation of endgame life save.
:p
Do you actually read your posts and think about them before posting?
Both of you?

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