[Kaschan]

cross post.

interesting.

Also Ultama uses Sercs logic as a back ground to his vote logic. I never really like it when people do that. Stand on your own and accept the consequences of your actions. It reads a little bit like hedging almost.

6/10 would vote

[Gamelon]

That was quick

remove vote

Will be back soon

[Fanderay]

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

When you start drawing attention to players based on post count, and then put out two posts pointing to players with lower post counts featuring day one banter when you've the highest post count at the time, have contributed nothing but banter at that point, and have three of those posts that are one word replies? Yes, yes I do.

Early game banter and dragonsecks actually help town. It is during these discussions that we can get scum to try to signal or slip something on their roles in speculation. If we are all going to sit on our thumbs for the first 36 hours then what is the point of the game? We may as well be playing RAF at that point.

[Kaschan]

Kessobahn, on 10 January 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

Someone mention kamasutra? Please ellaborate further...

whilst Fanderay started the pictionary stuff, it was Kesso who technically started the Karmasutra back and forth by immediately looking to start an alternative to dragon secks. First post of the game, looking to be fun bobby and thus is able to spin out a few more posts and pad his post count harmlessly.

Also note (and this is not OMGUS)

Kessobahn, on 10 January 2017 - 10:32 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 10 January 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

I'm for bed, wake me up if anything happens.

or don't.

see if I care

Wake up!

vote kaschan

Someone voted for you.

yes its a tongue in cheek remark but its a throwaway vote that make it look like at least jokey contribution without having to commit to anything.

and then jumps for a low poster hunt with this

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Let's hear something from the lower end of the table shall we.

Vote Omtose

Is it just me, or is that particular alt always at the bottom of the pile?

and vanishes.
but its another vote than can easily be tossed away as its an alt meta vote.

vote Kessobahn

come out and speak to us little man

[Telas]

well, that's an interesting autocorrect. Fanderay, you're "candy" from now on,

[Telas]

Home time, back in a few hours

[Gamelon]

I don't like Ultama's vote either but I don't see it as trying to make up for low post count, and for the record I do not dislike Candy's banter.

Telas, on 11 January 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

Kesso is interesting, b/c he's got decent post county threw out some votes and also did the right amount of banter.

There might be something to Telas' and Kaschan's interest in Kess, I consider it to be the best shot at the moment

vote Kessobahn

will be going off until before timeout

[Kessobahn]

Back from badminton, I am liking the way the thread has picked up. Not sure if I am going to be around towards day end at all, and there is nothing solid as of yet. Got to go do my clash of clans war attack. Back soon.

[Okaros]

I can't understand any of this post, is it just me?

Kaschan, on 11 January 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

well fuck that for a game of darts. Yet another uninspiring performance. Can slows the game down far too much, he should have been taken of for Couts instead of gini. But I'm not the manager so what do I know.
reading

Apart from that, two things really stand out to me on catching up:

This post from Fanderay. On the surface, doesn't look too weird, except that the comment about people being too cagey was literally 4 posts above this. It just seems like an effort to not mention Kessobahn (who made the comment). Is he trying to avoid them being linked?

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

I agree with whomever said that people are being too cagey so far this game. Based on the limited number of posts I have nothing on a day 1 case.

Also this post:

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

Fanderay 10
Gamelon 9
Kessobahn 7
Path-Shaper 5
Okaros 4
Kaschan 3
Ultama 3
Lock 3
Telas 2
Serc 1
Omtose 1

Seriously? There's not enough to get a read here. Out of such slim pickings, why does Kaschan stand out?

Having just said that there isn't enough on thread at all to make any lynch, Fanderay questions why Gamelon has targeted Kaschan. The 'seriously' seems overly incredulous for what at this stage is always going to be a thin case, when we have this little to go on for day one.

I'm still getting a feel for what has happened on thread while I was away, but I'll be around to chat if anyone wants to talk.

[Okaros]

Kaschan, on 11 January 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

cross post.

interesting.

Also Ultama uses Sercs logic as a back ground to his vote logic. I never really like it when people do that. Stand on your own and accept the consequences of your actions. It reads a little bit like hedging almost.

6/10 would vote

Can you explain this further? Because I'm not really seeing any logic from Serc at all, and certainly nothing that seems to be informing Ultama's voting choice.

[Kaschan]

Ultama references sercs logic that the scum would hide in spam town, uses it as part of his reason to vote.
This always looks like hedging to me. I think it's rather clear.

My post that confused you is me being fucking pissed of with Liverpool's continued woes in defence and inability to pick apart a team that sits back.


I like how Kesso appears basically immediately after my vote. Then scoots off again with nothing said.

Vote sits for the night. Will be awake before time out

[Kessobahn]

Not going to have enough time to play this tonight, shattered and I am up at 6. I see I have a couple of votes but have no vigor to try and see why properly.
One is off Kaschan as a possible retaliation to my earlier barbed vote. The other Gamelon who looks like he just wants anyone but him lynched. I'll look more closely at them if I am alive day two.

[Path-Shaper]

I miscalculated the time by 1 hour, but not gonna change this now with the timeout relatively soon. So y'all got additional 60 minutes on the house.

I will resolve when I wake up.

Clock: 7h 3m
Players not voted: Okaros, Serc, Omtose, Lock

1 Omtose: Kessobahn
2 Fanderay: Ultama, Telas
1 Ultama: Fanderay
2 Kessobahn: Kaschan, Gamelon

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to night.

[Okaros]

Thanks for explaining. Now that I know what you're looking at, this is actually really interesting, because Ultama starts off talking about either a low poster or a mid-range poster:

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Let's hear something from the lower end of the table shall we.

Vote Omtose

Is it just me, or is that particular alt always at the bottom of the pile?

Yeah, Omtose has been straight up missing ever since check-in. So has Serc, for that matter.

Unless someone really screws up over the next few hours though, I don't think we have really anything to base a real vote on. I'm personally torn between wanting to ping off a low-poster or take a blind shot at someone in the mid-range.

Low-poster: Could be scum trying to hide and hope to slide by into day two without anyone really noticing they're there.

Mid-range: Slightly more dedicated scum trying to blend in and seem like they're active.

I think I'm going to hold off on placing a vote right this minute. I'll be hanging around all day from here on out though since I've been snowed in -n with less than a foot of snow. We don't get much of it where I live, so when we do get it the entire city loses it's fracking mind and shuts down. Anyways, I'll be here if anyone feels like showing up and chatting.

Then Serc comes along and throws shade at the high-range posters:

Serc, on 11 January 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

I'm ready to play. Just been waiting for the useless Kamasutra and rap prattle to die down.

Unless Omtose is a Twin (which I doubt) I figure out killers are in the High Spam mix. Though that doesn't narrow things down much at all.

Serc does nothing else with this, despite saying they're around to play, but Ultama picks it up and runs with it:

(continued in next post because block quotes issues)

[Okaros]

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

Now, looking back through I'm not liking Fandy one bit. He started the Kama Sutra spam and contributed the following:

(snipped for length)

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

Directly after that he goes on to attack both me and Lock for the lack of content in our posts thus far.

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity, checking in.

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

Lock, on 11 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Uhm, Dr. Dre did not sing No Diggity, it was Blackstreet, Dr. Dre just rapped in it!

I... I knew that. I swear. Frankly, I always had it in my mind as Dre featuring Blackstreet because I never really cared that much about Blackstreet whereas Dre is Dre. My point still stands.

Nothing to see here...

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Third! I enjoy how we have been using a bunch of alts we haven't seen much of in a while!

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Lock, on 11 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Uhm, Dr. Dre did not sing No Diggity, it was Blackstreet, Dr. Dre just rapped in it!

Another middling player...

With that in mind, and following on Serc's thought to look at the spammers for scum I think I'm going to place my vote here. It's really the only stand-out scummy thing I've seen so far in the game.

Vote Fanderay

and then drops a vote. Serc disappears without voting.

So it's not the building on someone else's case that strikes me as scummy, because building on other people's cases is a part of Mafia. In this instance, Ultama completely changes course on the people they were interested in, based on a throw away comment, and Serc disappears, despite saying they'd be around to play.

[Ultama]

I was blind-siding the talkative active players at the time. Serc dropped a comment that made me think about that and I actually had time to reread the thread and picked up on Fandy's behavior.

Historically, I've always had a leaning for low-posters because that's how I play scum.

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on 11 January 2017 - 11:38 PM, said:

I miscalculated the time by 1 hour, but not gonna change this now with the timeout relatively soon. So y'all got additional 60 minutes on the house.

I will resolve when I wake up.

Clock: 7h 3m
Players not voted: Okaros, Serc, Omtose, Lock

1 Omtose: Kessobahn
2 Fanderay: Ultama, Telas
1 Ultama: Fanderay
2 Kessobahn: Kaschan, Gamelon

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to night.

Considering all the other people heading to sleep, this is not encouraging. I'll be asleep @ timeout.

should be around in 3 h or so, will figure out where I want to leave my vote then

[Okaros]

Ultama, on 12 January 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

I was blind-siding the talkative active players at the time. Serc dropped a comment that made me think about that and I actually had time to reread the thread and picked up on Fandy's behavior.

Historically, I've always had a leaning for low-posters because that's how I play scum.

Mmm, that's a very convenient point to make when you're hanging out near the top of the post count.

[Okaros]

In the interests of getting a lynch, I had a look at Fanderay and Kessobahn (with a whole two votes each, woo...)
Fanderay has a fair amount of spam, but there wasn't a lot going on on thread at that point, and I don't think day one spam is inherently scummy. Fanderay stopped the spam once serious discussion got underway, and has continued with relatively high posting, which makes me think the spam wasn't simply to drive up their post count without posting anything of substance.

Looking back through Fanderay's posts, this is the thing that stood out the most to me:

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 09:48 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

Directly after that he goes on to attack both me and Lock for the lack of content in our posts thus far.

(snipped Fanderay's posts)

With that in mind, and following on Serc's thought to look at the spammers for scum I think I'm going to place my vote here. It's really the only stand-out scummy thing I've seen so far in the game.

Vote Fanderay

Well fuck. I guess whenever I get cast as RI I should just not post anything and coast like everyone else. Apparently my tactic of interacting with other players has been completely the wrong way to play the last 2 games.

Oh and

vote Ultama

Not entirely as an OMGUS. I think you are trying too hard to make up for your lack of posts thus far.

They say it's not entirely OMGUS, but that is what it looks like. Also, the mention of being RI always gets my hackles up.

Kessobahn starts off with a low poster hunt:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Let's hear something from the lower end of the table shall we.

Vote Omtose

Is it just me, or is that particular alt always at the bottom of the pile?

Which to me always looks like they're trying to be helpful, but without actually putting much effort into it.

Kesso comes back long enough to say they're around, and then not around. If anything looks like artificial post inflation, this is it.

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

Back from badminton, I am liking the way the thread has picked up. Not sure if I am going to be around towards day end at all, and there is nothing solid as of yet. Got to go do my clash of clans war attack. Back soon.

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:

Not going to have enough time to play this tonight, shattered and I am up at 6. I see I have a couple of votes but have no vigor to try and see why properly.
One is off Kaschan as a possible retaliation to my earlier barbed vote. The other Gamelon who looks like he just wants anyone but him lynched. I'll look more closely at them if I am alive day two.

Out of the two, I think Kesso looks more scummy, so

Vote Kessobahn.


However, I'll still be around until the end of the day, or close to, to talk about stuff.

[Fanderay]

Okaros, on 12 January 2017 - 01:07 AM, said:

Ultama, on 12 January 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

I was blind-siding the talkative active players at the time. Serc dropped a comment that made me think about that and I actually had time to reread the thread and picked up on Fandy's behavior.

Historically, I've always had a leaning for low-posters because that's how I play scum.

Mmm, that's a very convenient point to make when you're hanging out near the top of the post count.

Right? Funny that.