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#1 User is offline   Mercador 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:11 PM

Just finished Bonehunters... beginning Reaper's Gale tonight :D

I don't understand the last chapter, would you mind helping me out?

As far as I understand, Icarium was bring with a Nameless One (Gral) with the Edur to get the Throne. Trull Sengar was there to defend it. Quick Ben tried to block Icarium, didn't totally block him, but an "apparition" put Icarium to his knees. What is that apparition ? Es'erdal or something. What is that ? I don't understand that part.

Otherwise, why Laseen banished Tavore ? I don't understand why.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:48 PM

The Eresal was actually The Eres. The Goddess of the Eresal or maybe just an Eresal Ascendant. I think she was mentioned in Midnight Tides (she raped Trull I think) and she may also have shown up in HOC?

Lasseen banishing the 14th was a political move. Between the time of DG and BH, Mallick Rel managed to get a lot of political power in the Malazan Empire, by among many trickeries, telling a tale of betrayal perpetrated by the Wickan's and the Malazan armies on 7C. To protect herself and to keep control of the empire, lest it descend into civil war, Lasseen sacrificed the 14th in a gambit that allowed her to direct a lot of political upheaval at the Wickan territories.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:51 PM

I thought Mallick Rel was left for dead during the Coltaine chain of dogs, I guess I mess up the persona list :-)
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

The Eresal made her first apperance in HoC.

Mallick Rel joined Sha'ik Reborn/Felisin in DG, but got kicked out before HOC started. He made it back to Quon Tali, infiltrated the Claw, spread a lot of lies, got a lot of influence and Laseen, who had no longer the power to destroy him without the claw, made him her advisor. Rel helped his stupid buddy Korbolo out and made him the hero in his story, so Laseen had to promote him.

Reading about them alive and back in power made me really furious. Well done SE. :D
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:46 PM

I don't remind reading all Mallick Rel tractations..?

And what is the Esreal?
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:24 AM

View PostMercador, on 09 January 2017 - 11:46 PM, said:

I don't remind reading all Mallick Rel tractations..?

And what is the Esreal?

The Eres'al are a race of humanoids that pre-date even the Imass. IIRC it is implied that the Imass evolved from the Eres'al.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:33 AM

Yeah I remember that they are Old but nothing Much more than that.. Thanks!
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Posted 05 February 2017 - 03:44 AM

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I think she was mentioned in Midnight Tides (she raped Trull I think) and she may also have shown up in HOC?


I think you're thinking of Menandore raping Udinaas. The Eresal was worshiped by the Nerek, who visited the Edur with Seren Pedac's group. While with the Hiroth (I think), Mayen accidentally sanctified the ground that the Nerek were staying on. Later on in the book, those Nerek were all murdered there, the spilled blood summoned the Eresal, if I remember right.

OP, I haven't read the ICE books but from what I understand there is more about the Malazan political maneuvering involving Laseen and I think Mallick Rel.
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Posted 05 February 2017 - 04:05 AM

Both rapes occur, but the Trull one is in House of Chains.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
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