[QuickTidal]

You’re high man...We loved it!

[Primateus]

 QuickTidal, on 09 January 2021 - 12:31 PM, said:

You're high man...We loved it!

I liked it too, except for the Timelord tech stuff. Because that has got to be the single dumbest thing in all of Discovery so far.

[Cause]

Let me count the ways

Spoiler

1) the turbo lift sequence, there was a hint of this absurd idea back in season one but there has never been any reason in any start trek show to believe the inside of Star Trek ships are this big. I mean we see them crawl around in jefffries tubes even in disco? Now I know they have been crawling through a tube the size of the Empire State Building?

2) we are running out of oxygen. You go, take the oxygen leave us to die. The mission! No sphere data robot don’t sacrifice yourself for me, the magnets! Okay I’m waking up, everyone else is alive too. We fixed the robot. I’m kinda of embarrassed how dramatic I made that all seem. Seems no one was ever in danger. At all. (Also despite helping create a spinoff for the emperor the now self aware sphere data seems a criminally underused resource)

3) I am Aurellio! In the two episodes you have known me I have gone from believing in the emerald chain to knowing it’s evil. By the way the five minutes I was in the room when they were torturing booker and before they rendered me unconscious I realized that his empath powers are so great he can he can empathize with mushrooms and fly the ship. Let’s drop the warp core and get out of here. What you don’t trust my maths? I have been working on this for five minutes! Hey why am I on the bridge even?

4) I am being swallowed by blue cubes in the data core! I mean what the hell even was this? Okay never mind suddenly I can walk right out.

5) gray! So despite being a personality embedded in a symbionts. A malfunctioning holosuite is able to read his mind, create him a physical body.... we could discuss this for hours alone!

6) one of the last few moments of the show as it’s ending staments doesn’t acknowledge Michael because she chose to risk sacrificing his family. The very next scene he is happy she is now the captain?

7) despite a dilithium shortage when Michael calls navar they answer with a fleet! They come all that way stand down when she tells them too, pursue her when they leave. Trill and navar will prob both rejoin star fleet and oh well solved the burn! All in one season!

8) the dilithium planet! We can mine it! Our problems are over! Why the hell have they not just been retrofitting the whole of star fleet with spore drives? They never even discuss it!

9) the nee uniforms are ass

10) not to be an ass but as season 3 ends I still don’t know the names of most of the bridge crew. Black man, black women, Asian guy, Detmer who had and was cured of ptsd in 3 episodes and the white woman who I’m not sure was around before this season and who shows up on the bridge now and than but wasn’t around with the rest of the a team when the tried bombing the nacelle

11) Michael is captain now. Guess sari and Tilly had their character growth reset.

12) also once again we have a space battle with no bite! Trapped inside the sphere bubble of starfleet hq, the captured discovery fires on the shield emitter for five minutes while being attacked by over ten? Starfleet vessels. The shied emitter fails before discoveries shields do? Discoveries shields are godlike! They lasted an entire episode in season 2 finale.

The whole episode had me shaking my head in disbelief. Not because I wanted to dislike it but because of the sloppy short paths the writers took to get the payoffs they wanted.

This post has been edited by Cause: 09 January 2021 - 06:29 PM

[Briar King]

Finished up mirror ep 2 of Enterprise so now I’m ready for STD mirror ep. Likely another 2 days before I can watch it though.

I really hope CBS is planning to roll off S2 and not just S1 in this special presentation. I’ve really dug STD but I still won’t pay for it.

[QuickTidal]

I’ll have a go at this. My answers below yours.

 Cause, on 09 January 2021 - 06:14 PM, said:

Let me count the ways

Spoiler

1) the turbo lift sequence, there was a hint of this absurd idea back in season one but there has never been any reason in any start trek show to believe the inside of Star Trek ships are this big. I mean we see them crawl around in jefffries tubes even in disco? Now I know they have been crawling through a tube the size of the Empire State Building?

Meh, nitpicking. It’s silly fun.

2) we are running out of oxygen. You go, take the oxygen leave us to die. The mission! No sphere data robot don’t sacrifice yourself for me, the magnets! Okay I’m waking up, everyone else is alive too. We fixed the robot. I’m kinda of embarrassed how dramatic I made that all seem. Seems no one was ever in danger. At all. (Also despite helping create a spinoff for the emperor the now self aware sphere data seems a criminally underused resource)

So, the notion that because they passed out from LOW oxygen, doesn’t mean they would die before Burnham saved them...it also didn’t mean they were safe. That worked fine. It’s not like the ship was immediately without oxygen...it’s was just depleting slowly and they struggled to remain conscious enough to move on.

3) I am Aurellio! In the two episodes you have known me I have gone from believing in the emerald chain to knowing it’s evil. By the way the five minutes I was in the room when they were torturing booker and before they rendered me unconscious I realized that his empath powers are so great he can he can empathize with mushrooms and fly the ship. Let’s drop the warp core and get out of here. What you don’t trust my maths? I have been working on this for five minutes! Hey why am I on the bridge even?

I mean, this was literally explained. He’s a brilliant scientist (which we are told the emerald chain has the best of the best), and he spends a whole whack of time with Stamets and the drive...AND it’s not at all fa fetched that he’d never seen Orysra being evil before this if he’s always been in a lab somewhere for her. So it makes fine sense he can suss out Bookers empath abilities might allow him to access the mycelium since it’s a living organism and the tardigrade was connecting with it on a similar level, and that once he sees osyra being outright evil he jumps sides. Like this has been laid out for 2-3 episodes so far bro.

4) I am being swallowed by blue cubes in the data core! I mean what the hell even was this? Okay never mind suddenly I can walk right out.

It’s just a cool effect in the engine room...I don’t think it’s meant to be more than that.

5) gray! So despite being a personality embedded in a symbionts. A malfunctioning holosuite is able to read his mind, create him a physical body.... we could discuss this for hours alone!

We don’t have any idea why gray is still around and not buried as a memory like all the other previous hosts...it’s literally a plot point that is brought up repeatedly as a mystery...so why you think we know enough about it to call shenanigans on the holo version is beyond me....and in fact the holo version should be an indicator that something really odd is going on.

6) one of the last few moments of the show as it’s ending staments doesn’t acknowledge Michael because she chose to risk sacrificing his family. The very next scene he is happy she is now the captain?

He can be pissed at her for what she did, and still admire her and think she’s a good captain choice. Like holy hells man, people are not one dimensional.

7) despite a dilithium shortage when Michael calls navar they answer with a fleet! They come all that way stand down when she tells them too, pursue her when they leave. Trill and navar will prob both rejoin star fleet and oh well solved the burn! All in one season!

Dude...HER MOTHER IS ON NAVAR. Like this isn’t even a question. They came because she called and her mother came.

8) the dilithium planet! We can mine it! Our problems are over! Why the hell have they not just been retrofitting the whole of star fleet with spore drives? They never even discuss it!

Again, I feel like you’re watching a different show and missing the CONSTANT mention of why...ever since Vance found out about Disco, he wants it kept safe because they didn’t have any scientists who could replicate the tardgrade or stamets to use the drives. Why would they waste resources on a ship feature they can’t make work on any other ship. It’s also why Osyra dangles her scientists in his face...because she knew they might be able to....turns out she was right.

9) the nee uniforms are ass

Disagree. They are cool, and denote the colours of their ranks and positions again in a nice subtle way.

10) not to be an ass but as season 3 ends I still don’t know the names of most of the bridge crew. Black man, black women, Asian guy, Detmer who had and was cured of ptsd in 3 episodes and the white woman who I’m not sure was around before this season and who shows up on the bridge now and than but wasn’t around with the rest of the a team when the tried bombing the nacelle

Pay more attention? I don’t mean that to sound Dickish...but they do mention their names pretty often.

11) Michael is captain now. Guess sari and Tilly had their character growth reset.

No. If you watched DISCO s1 and 2 and didn’t see them aiming Michael at the captains chair, like I dunno man. Saru and especially Tilly were clearly temporary.

12) also once again we have a space battle with no bite! Trapped inside the sphere bubble of starfleet hq, the captured discovery fires on the shield emitter for five minutes while being attacked by over ten? Starfleet vessels. The shied emitter fails before discoveries shields do? Discoveries shields are godlike! They lasted an entire episode in season 2 finale.

We’ve had not one but two double episode knockdown space brawls in s1 and s2...so complaining that s 3 didn’t have one is a little offside.

The whole episode had me shaking my head in disbelief. Not because I wanted to dislike it but because of the sloppy short paths the writers took to get the payoffs they wanted.

Disagree. It mostly worked fine.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 January 2021 - 03:03 AM

[Briar King]

Watched STD mirror ep 2 and holy shit I got excited at the end of it.

Spoiler

what’s Michelle Yoh(?)’s character name in this show? Oh it’s going to be great this coming Thursday to see if she is a descendant of Hoshie!

[QuickTidal]

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 01:12 AM, said:

Watched STD mirror ep 2 and holy shit I got excited at the end of it.

Spoiler

what’s Michelle Yoh(?)’s character name in this show? Oh it’s going to be great this coming Thursday to see if she is a descendant of Hoshie!

She is not. What would make you think she was? She's been Phillipa Georgiou since Episode 1.

[Briar King]

 QuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 01:12 AM, said:

Watched STD mirror ep 2 and holy shit I got excited at the end of it.

Spoiler

what’s Michelle Yoh(?)’s character name in this show? Oh it’s going to be great this coming Thursday to see if she is a descendant of Hoshie!

She is not. What would make you think she was? She's been Phillipa Georgiou since Episode 1.

I haven’t seen that one yet.

[QuickTidal]

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 03:20 PM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 01:12 AM, said:

Watched STD mirror ep 2 and holy shit I got excited at the end of it.

Spoiler

what’s Michelle Yoh(?)’s character name in this show? Oh it’s going to be great this coming Thursday to see if she is a descendant of Hoshie!

She is not. What would make you think she was? She's been Phillipa Georgiou since Episode 1.

I haven’t seen that one yet.

Are you watching them out of order? LOL, that would be wonky.

She's not related to Hoshi though, be assured. She is an entirely new character. No one on Disco is related to anyone in the canon of previous shows aside from Michael being related to Spock and raised as his sister.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Just watched the series 3 finale - honestly, I enjoyed it. I think I go into any Trek not wholly expecting it to stand up to logic, which helps.

I liked the message of it all. "Even in fear, you can still step forward."

[Cause]

 QuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 04:22 PM, said:

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 03:20 PM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

 Briar King, on 13 January 2021 - 01:12 AM, said:

Watched STD mirror ep 2 and holy shit I got excited at the end of it.

Spoiler

what’s Michelle Yoh(?)’s character name in this show? Oh it’s going to be great this coming Thursday to see if she is a descendant of Hoshie!

She is not. What would make you think she was? She's been Phillipa Georgiou since Episode 1.

I haven’t seen that one yet.

Are you watching them out of order? LOL, that would be wonky.

She's not related to Hoshi though, be assured. She is an entirely new character. No one on Disco is related to anyone in the canon of previous shows aside from Michael being related to Spock and raised as his sister.

Well mirror hoshi was the first Terran empress. I had the same thought once.

[Briar King]

Yeah QT remember I said I started on ep 5 with this special weekly presentation they are doing now. I’ve only seen her on recaps thus far.

[Mezla PigDog]

I finished season 3. I liked it as TV but I didn't like it as Trek. The crew are a right bunch of emo pussies. I'm good with friendships and relationships forming but you still do your goddamned duty to Star Fleet. Trek is always predicated on the fact that the crew care deeply for each other - they don't all need to couple up for the audience to get that. Occasionally they go against protocol to rescue each other but the very fact it is occasionally makes it interesting. You don't just constantly flout rules because you're a maverick and get away with it. Operate within the rules and be a maverick to win in unwinable situations.

Bleugh. It's being dumbed down. They should be Star Fleet not a high school choir.

[QuickTidal]

I disagree with all of that. Shrug.

[Mezla PigDog]

You know the word "mansplain"? They need an alert caption on the screen with "Burnamsplain" on it.

Spoiler

Hey I may have missed 900 years of technological advancement but let me explain this thing to you because I'm a genius raised by Vulcans

[QuickTidal]

YES!

The TNG-era dept. colour are back!

I'm not sure why we need another galaxy-spanning "anomaly" to investigate as an arc...I mean, S2, AND 3 pretty much boiled down to Galaxy-spanning anomalies...

Still. Looks dope and looks like Disco will finally settle into the timeframe...

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 06 April 2021 - 12:08 PM

[Briar King]

Going here rather than keeping up in TV thread. I don’t feel like looking for a TOS thread if it exists.

TOS S1 ep 20

Spoiler

this ep was really cool even though it is one of my least favorite things for shows to do. Time travel. Very cool to be in the “present day(60’s) with comedic and serious shenanigans going on. It has the exact same sling around the sun as ST IV! It’s been quite awhile since I saw that movie and I’m trying to remember if they said anything about this episode in it.