[Bendal Home]

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

So there you go, they're both scum, and I would be happy voting for either of them

Couple of problems there slick. A if Ultima was my symp or if I was his then one of us wouldn't be voting for the other on D day. If I was Ultima's symp then I would have just sat back and let you and Ultima start a case on Karosis or Grasp. If Ultima was my symp then he wouldn't have gone on to build a case against his master he would have gone about building a case on someone else. So yeah that is a complete logic fail there big guy.

If you aren't Ultima's symp (which you are) then you wouldn't have a problem putting a vote on him right now. But you won't you will just pontificate and not vote unless either Grasp or Karosis puts a second vote on me. In which case you will quickly hammer. Claiming while doing so that you are conflicted and boy do you hope that I am really scum and that it isn't Ultima. Then you will do a happy dance after PS posts that town has lost.

[Gait]

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

So there you go, they're both scum, and I would be happy voting for either of them

Couple of problems there slick. A if Ultima was my symp or if I was his then one of us wouldn't be voting for the other on D day. If I was Ultima's symp then I would have just sat back and let you and Ultima start a case on Karosis or Grasp. If Ultima was my symp then he wouldn't have gone on to build a case against his master he would have gone about building a case on someone else. So yeah that is a complete logic fail there big guy.

If you aren't Ultima's symp (which you are) then you wouldn't have a problem putting a vote on him right now. But you won't you will just pontificate and not vote unless either Grasp or Karosis puts a second vote on me. In which case you will quickly hammer. Claiming while doing so that you are conflicted and boy do you hope that I am really scum and that it isn't Ultima. Then you will do a happy dance after PS posts that town has lost.

You are not Ultama's symp and I have not said that.

I have already addressed the points you have made about Ultama's case. Have a read. Oh wait, you're skulking and lurking there in the corner waiting to dismiss anything said against you.

I have no problem voting for Ultama. I have no problem voting for you. There is no conflict whatsoever. As I said, you are both scum. Which is why, it turns out, there were very scummy posts in both your analyses. As you yourself point out, it is D-day, and I would like the other two to weigh in before I vote.

[Bendal Home]

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

you won't you will just pontificate and not vote unless either Grasp or Karosis puts a second vote on me.

You are not Ultama's symp and I have not said that.

I have already addressed the points you have made about Ultama's case. Have a read. Oh wait, you're skulking and lurking there in the corner waiting to dismiss anything said against you.

I have no problem voting for Ultama. I have no problem voting for you. There is no conflict whatsoever. As I said, you are both scum. Which is why, it turns out, there were very scummy posts in both your analyses. As you yourself point out, it is D-day, and I would like the other two to weigh in before I vote.

PONTIFICATING

From post 262 through 302

Gait = 18 posts
Ultima = 9 posts
BH = 9 posts
Karosis = 1
Grasp = 2
PS = 1


Gait as the symp is doing exactly what his play book says to do. Clog up the thread with spam. He has gone over me and Ultima 2 times and each time it has been the exact same bullshit. Oh yeah look BH is just as shady as Ultima. Either one is scum but BH is more scum because he is not building cases anymore. So Ultima who is scummy is less likely to be scum.

Just classic sympage.

Put your money where your mouth is Gait and vote for Ultima if you think he is scum. Come one do it! You won't, you say you will but you can't, and every time you say you will I will get on and call you on your bullshit.

[Gait]

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

you won't you will just pontificate and not vote unless either Grasp or Karosis puts a second vote on me.

You are not Ultama's symp and I have not said that.

I have already addressed the points you have made about Ultama's case. Have a read. Oh wait, you're skulking and lurking there in the corner waiting to dismiss anything said against you.

I have no problem voting for Ultama. I have no problem voting for you. There is no conflict whatsoever. As I said, you are both scum. Which is why, it turns out, there were very scummy posts in both your analyses. As you yourself point out, it is D-day, and I would like the other two to weigh in before I vote.

PONTIFICATING

From post 262 through 302

Gait = 18 posts
Ultima = 9 posts
BH = 9 posts
Karosis = 1
Grasp = 2
PS = 1


Gait as the symp is doing exactly what his play book says to do. Clog up the thread with spam. He has gone over me and Ultima 2 times and each time it has been the exact same bullshit. Oh yeah look BH is just as shady as Ultima. Either one is scum but BH is more scum because he is not building cases anymore. So Ultima who is scummy is less likely to be scum.

Just classic sympage.

Put your money where your mouth is Gait and vote for Ultima if you think he is scum. Come one do it! You won't, you say you will but you can't, and every time you say you will I will get on and call you on your bullshit.

Nice lack of context there. More posts from me because I've been shutting down your symp case on me as well as following up on your own highlighting of Ultama. So more posts because I've been responding directly to things raised about me, which had not been the case earlier in the game (plus I'm always a slow starter).

Now, once again, you're twisting what I've said. It's not that either one could be scummy. It's not one or the other.

It's that you are both scum. You are the killer, Ultama is the (frustrated) symp.

And now you are panicking and trying to bully me into voting before hearing the others. It's actually really amusing

Tell you what, I am so certain that neither Karosis nor Grasp are scum - thanks to Ultama's signalling - and hence won't slam a vote down without saying anything, that I will put the vote down to shut you up, killer.

Vote Ultama

As I said, it makes little difference who goes, except for one dead townie more at night, if you're lynched the next day.

[Gait]

So to reiterate, either we lynch Ultama today and then Bendal tomorrow; or Bendal is lynched today and the game ends. Or, let's say I'm wrong, which I'm not, then Ultama is lynched tomorrow. Unless of course you think I'm a symp who is suicidal enough to accuse and vote for their own master.

[Karosis]

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

It's that you are both scum. You are the killer, Ultama is the (frustrated) symp.

[...]

Vote Ultama

So you're convinced BH is the killer and yet you're voting for Ultama?

[Karosis]

Quote

3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Bendal Home ( Ultama )
2 Votes for Ultama (Bendal Home, Gait)

Just to be clear on this, you've voting with the alt you say is killer?


Edit: missed Gait off votes

This post has been edited by Karosis: 18 August 2016 - 06:52 PM

[Karosis]

At this point I'm not even considering doing a sanity check on your postings Gait.

At the time of your vote there was 1 vote each for BH and Ultama. Your killer/symp pair.

It is D-Day if the symp is alive.

You are suggesting lynching who you say is the SYMP. The symp will CF as RI. 1 NK means 3 alts left and if symp isn't dead then it is game over. If symp is dead now or previously then it is certainly D-Day tomorrow. At which point you then say "oh well Bendal is the killer as I said before. Vote them."

Forgive me if I'm being uncharitable here but that is a absolute crock of shit you're suggesting we jump into.

Your entire strategy suggests to me that you're scum and you're trying to line up two non-killer lynches.

On current form I'll be voting you, Gait.

[Bendal Home]

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 August 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 18 August 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

you won't you will just pontificate and not vote unless either Grasp or Karosis puts a second vote on me.

You are not Ultama's symp and I have not said that.

I have already addressed the points you have made about Ultama's case. Have a read. Oh wait, you're skulking and lurking there in the corner waiting to dismiss anything said against you.

I have no problem voting for Ultama. I have no problem voting for you. There is no conflict whatsoever. As I said, you are both scum. Which is why, it turns out, there were very scummy posts in both your analyses. As you yourself point out, it is D-day, and I would like the other two to weigh in before I vote.

PONTIFICATING

From post 262 through 302

Gait = 18 posts
Ultima = 9 posts
BH = 9 posts
Karosis = 1
Grasp = 2
PS = 1


Gait as the symp is doing exactly what his play book says to do. Clog up the thread with spam. He has gone over me and Ultima 2 times and each time it has been the exact same bullshit. Oh yeah look BH is just as shady as Ultima. Either one is scum but BH is more scum because he is not building cases anymore. So Ultima who is scummy is less likely to be scum.

Just classic sympage.

Put your money where your mouth is Gait and vote for Ultima if you think he is scum. Come one do it! You won't, you say you will but you can't, and every time you say you will I will get on and call you on your bullshit.

Nice lack of context there. More posts from me because I've been shutting down your symp case on me as well as following up on your own highlighting of Ultama. So more posts because I've been responding directly to things raised about me, which had not been the case earlier in the game (plus I'm always a slow starter).

Now, once again, you're twisting what I've said. It's not that either one could be scummy. It's not one or the other.

It's that you are both scum. You are the killer, Ultama is the (frustrated) symp.

And now you are panicking and trying to bully me into voting before hearing the others. It's actually really amusing

Tell you what, I am so certain that neither Karosis nor Grasp are scum - thanks to Ultama's signalling - and hence won't slam a vote down without saying anything, that I will put the vote down to shut you up, killer.

Vote Ultama

As I said, it makes little difference who goes, except for one dead townie more at night, if you're lynched the next day.

I have twisted nothing you said Gait. I am just looking at with knowing that you are a symp. That makes it very easy to see what you are attempting to do.

Just a couple of posts earlier you were saying that the killer could either be me or Ultima. When I press you to actually vote then you say that I am the killer but then vote for Ultima.

This is at least a little bit better attempt then your earlier attempts. I will break this down as well though. By voting for Ultama instead of me when pressured you are trying to convince either Karosis or Grasp to vote for me. At which point you will quickly flip your vote over to me for the hammer and the win.

I admire the attempt but it doesn't make you any less of a symp. It just makes you better then average symp.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 6 hours and 15 minutes remaining

5 Players still alive: Bendal Home, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Ultama

3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ultama ( Bendal Home, gait )
1 Vote for Bendal Home ( Ultama )

Players not voted: Grasp, Karosis

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 August 2016 - 07:25 PM

[Bendal Home]

Karosis, on 18 August 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

At this point I'm not even considering doing a sanity check on your postings Gait.

At the time of your vote there was 1 vote each for BH and Ultama. Your killer/symp pair.

It is D-Day if the symp is alive.

You are suggesting lynching who you say is the SYMP. The symp will CF as RI. 1 NK means 3 alts left and if symp isn't dead then it is game over. If symp is dead now or previously then it is certainly D-Day tomorrow. At which point you then say "oh well Bendal is the killer as I said before. Vote them."

Forgive me if I'm being uncharitable here but that is a absolute crock of shit you're suggesting we jump into.

Your entire strategy suggests to me that you're scum and you're trying to line up two non-killer lynches.

On current form I'll be voting you, Gait.

sigh... It is a crock of shit and done to deflect off of my attack on Ultima. If you notice he didn't get started until I started to go at Ultima. I am feeling very confident that Gait is the symp and very confident that Ultima is scum.

[Bendal Home]

Gaits purpose over the last 20+ posts has been to toss as many big full page posts as he possible could into the thread in order to derail Ultima's lynch.

@Karosis if you and Grasp would rather vote for Gait then Ultima I am fine with that. What will happen is that Gait will come back town and either you or grasp will be killed at night. Then Ultima will say that I am the killer and vote for me and I will of course vote for him again and then either you or grasp will roll the dice and vote. Personally I would rather avoid that and finish the game today with a Ultima lynch.

[Grasp]

So my big thing right now is that Ultama voted for Bendal first. This is potentially D-Day, there's still plenty of time for discussion, and after it's been said that we should hold off on voting due to potential D-Day, Ultama drops a vote on Bendal.

I'm convinced that the kill is either Bendal or Ultama, but I'm certainly leaning more towards Ultama.

Though I believe we lynched the symp a while back, Gait's actions today certainly scream symp to me as well, though it could just as easily be "end of game, time to buckle down" play. Either way, I'm more interested in finding the killer than the symp.

So, if Gait IS the symp, then he's either symping Bendal or Ultama. Given Ultama was the first to drop a vote today, on potential D-Day, I'm just going to go ahead and

vote Ultama

Let's see what the CF has to say.

[Ultama]

Actually it was BH to drop the vote first, hence my OMGUS comment. Thanks for losing the game Grasp.

[Bendal Home]

Actually I voted for Ultima first then he OMGUS voted me. But still that is the right decision.

[Bendal Home]

Ultama, on 18 August 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

Actually it was BH to drop the vote first, hence my OMGUS comment. Thanks for losing the game Grasp.

Oh don't cry. Khell was mildly brilliant in his attempted deflection from you. Of course he got you into the situation to begin with sooo.

[JPK]

It's a lynch!

As the town gathers around the swinging corpse of Ultama, they find that it is no other than Gust Hubb, the Killer.


Congratulations Town!

[Vengeance]

Suck it KHELl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Messremb]

Thank goodness for that!

Well done Venge et al

[Ultama]

Aw fuck me, sorry did what I could.