[Demelain]

Morning.

Yes, Ano, I have reasons to trust KF. His early Day 3 play made me realize a few things about him.

[Anomandaris]

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 11:47 AM, said:

Morning.

Yes, Ano, I have reasons to trust KF. His early Day 3 play made me realize a few things about him.

Allright then, I'll check to see that myself later

To Shadow:

About interactipns, I commented on some of Denuls thought's on D3, which was almost everything I've done that day

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 12 hours and 8 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Demelain, Kadagar Fant, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Togg

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Shadow )
2 Votes for Togg ( Kadagar Fant, Demelain )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Togg

[Demelain]

My impression of Ano is someone who made a bunch of correct points that I fin myself agreeing with. If he is scum, we'll done for giving me nothing I can pin on them up to now.

Togg has been spastic, but not overtly scummy. Although KF's early case on him misconstruing some of what Kesso and Merrid were saying is still a thing.

OE is the other unkbown who hasn't claimed a role, or countered a reveal. I'm less suspicious of him due to the Day 2, but can't discount him completely.

Merrid, Shadow a KF are all VPIs- I have no extra info, so in light of no counters, I must assume the reveals are true.

So that's my thought process.

Btw, I likely won't be around for timeout. And any time on the weekend, until Monday evening. If I die over the weekend, my shortlist remains Togg, Ano and OE, in that order.

[Kadagar Fant]

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

My impression of Ano is someone who made a bunch of correct points that I fin myself agreeing with. If he is scum, we'll done for giving me nothing I can pin on them up to now.

Togg has been spastic, but not overtly scummy. Although KF's early case on him misconstruing some of what Kesso and Merrid were saying is still a thing.

OE is the other unkbown who hasn't claimed a role, or countered a reveal. I'm less suspicious of him due to the Day 2, but can't discount him completely.

Merrid, Shadow a KF are all VPIs- I have no extra info, so in light of no counters, I must assume the reveals are true.

So that's my thought process.

Btw, I likely won't be around for timeout. And any time on the weekend, until Monday evening. If I die over the weekend, my shortlist remains Togg, Ano and OE, in that order.

I am in a similar mindset to be fair. I have not read much into either of the latter two's play because their's been better options throughout the game AND they were not created by either of them. Ie we were not steered towards Fanderay, Denul or Kesso by either of these two alts.

Togg has been more pushy towards who we should lynch but not had much substance to it, just a voice, that's a big generalisation to be honest, but i'm busy and cannot go over things like I want to.

Today I think Togg is our best bet and we'll go from there.

[Togg]

Kadagar Fant, on 29 July 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

My impression of Ano is someone who made a bunch of correct points that I fin myself agreeing with. If he is scum, we'll done for giving me nothing I can pin on them up to now.

Togg has been spastic, but not overtly scummy. Although KF's early case on him misconstruing some of what Kesso and Merrid were saying is still a thing.

OE is the other unkbown who hasn't claimed a role, or countered a reveal. I'm less suspicious of him due to the Day 2, but can't discount him completely.

Merrid, Shadow a KF are all VPIs- I have no extra info, so in light of no counters, I must assume the reveals are true.

So that's my thought process.

Btw, I likely won't be around for timeout. And any time on the weekend, until Monday evening. If I die over the weekend, my shortlist remains Togg, Ano and OE, in that order.

I am in a similar mindset to be fair. I have not read much into either of the latter two's play because their's been better options throughout the game AND they were not created by either of them. Ie we were not steered towards Fanderay, Denul or Kesso by either of these two alts.

Togg has been more pushy towards who we should lynch but not had much substance to it, just a voice, that's a big generalisation to be honest, but i'm busy and cannot go over things like I want to.

Today I think Togg is our best bet and we'll go from there.

I don't think that today is a day that we want to make a lynch lightly. Yes, when I CF as RI, you can look at other players, but let's look at the numbers:

7 - Togg = 6 - 1 night kill if the killer gets successful tonight, leaving 5 town left. I would say that potentially by tomorrow there will be 2 or 3 zombies and 1 killer left. And who is to say that they can't both win if their VCs are to eliminate all humans?

I need to look at Ano and OE. OE has had a hard on for me all game, but Ano has played kind of middle of the road.

[Demelain]

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

[Togg]

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

Without knowing who Shadow is healing, it leaves the question of 1) Is the killer fucking with us? or 2) Has there been at least 1 zombie?

[Demelain]

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

Without knowing who Shadow is healing , it leaves the question of 1) Is the killer fucking with us? or 2) Has there been at least 1 zombie?

You're not paying a whole lot of attention to the game are you?

See also: guard.

[Demelain]

To rephrase: if there's a recruiter in play already, and we are not looking for them, we're fucked.

Of course, it is my humble opinion that introducing a cult faction midway through the game with 0 warning to town is unbalanced beyond belief. If blend did this, there will be strong words in spoilers.

So, I choose not to worry about cult for now. Because if I was to assume this is now a cult game, then I'm literally back to Square One: everyone is a suspect, I have no useful info to rely on, because it's all suddently suspect, and I find myself undecisive and lost.

So, instead of doing that, untill I'm told otherwise, I will assume there's no cult, and play the game as town v scum. Which leads me back to you.

[Olar Ethil]

I agree regarding Zombies. I have no clue about recruiters and will probably mess up horribly looking for one.

I am going to bed after an extremely tiring day.

Vote Togg

[Togg]

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

Without knowing who Shadow is healing , it leaves the question of 1) Is the killer fucking with us? or 2) Has there been at least 1 zombie?

You're not paying a whole lot of attention to the game are you?

See also: guard.

He claimed to heal you the first night. Is he still healing you?

[Demelain]

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

Without knowing who Shadow is healing , it leaves the question of 1) Is the killer fucking with us? or 2) Has there been at least 1 zombie?

You're not paying a whole lot of attention to the game are you?

See also: guard.

He claimed to heal you the first night. Is he still healing you?

I'm voting you b/c I think you're most likely scum. Do you really think i'll give yo answers to you fishing?

[Togg]

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Togg, on 29 July 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 July 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

You are presuming the zombies are already in play. If you really believe that, you should be trying to figure out who the cult leader is, because it's a much graver threat to town than a killer.

Anyone who thinks there's zombies afoot should be making recruiter cases. If they are afoot (and I don't believe that, yet), and we find out about it from a lynch CF, we will probably have lost by then.

Since all i'm hearing is "oh, but look, there mig be zombies!" without any attempts to proactively deal with this (much more serious) threat, i'm driven to conclude that you're just saying this to deflect attention off yourself, instead of trying to help town.

Without knowing who Shadow is healing , it leaves the question of 1) Is the killer fucking with us? or 2) Has there been at least 1 zombie?

You're not paying a whole lot of attention to the game are you?

See also: guard.

He claimed to heal you the first night. Is he still healing you?

I'm voting you b/c I think you're most likely scum. Do you really think i'll give yo answers to you fishing?

You claimed I'm not paying attention. Your play has really changed from the thoughtful townie to wanting a lynch on vague feelings. I think maybe Shadow hasn't been healing you every night and you have been turned into a zombie.

When I CF RI, maybe there should be a discussion on that.

[Togg]

While OE has been annoying for most of the game with his "Togg looks scummy" crap, he actually has been contributing good questions and comments throughout the game. He was also 3rd on the Denul lynch train, and I don't think he would have gotten on that early if it was his partner.

Ano on the other hand, has not made waves, and as others have said they have no read on him. He hasn't made any posts to alienate other players. Also, he was the hammer on Denul which is solid distancing if he wanted not to be associated with his partner.

vote Ano

[Demelain]

@ Togg: there's 7 players left. 3 claimed roles and no counters.

I'm going down the list of unknowns. Yes, I'm playing looser. But I'm spell out every step of my reasoning.

At the same time, i'm not going to point out night actions, because that's info that is helping scum..

If you think Shadow is the Recruiter, why not vote him? I already told you, cult is danger no 1. But instead you are voting a suspected killer. If I am in fact, recruited, and the killer is lynched, but the recruiter is NOT Shadow and he gets to recruit again- guess what? Tomorrow is stalemate, and the day after town is minority.

But you don't actually believe that that' why you're going for a killer.

Unless you're much stupider than I'm giving you credit for.

[Shadow]

Since no one agrees with me regarding Ano.

Remove Vote
Vote Togg

His request for Demelain to identify the heal targets was a red herring. I still don't think he is really scum, but he has to go.

[Togg]

Shadow, on 29 July 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Since no one agrees with me regarding Ano.

Remove Vote
Vote Togg

His request for Demelain to identify the heal targets was a red herring. I still don't think he is really scum, but he has to go.

You aren't reading that right. What I'm saying is that he can't be PId every night after Day 1. If he wasn't, then his recent suggestion that you are a zombie recruiter is suspect no?

[Togg]

Shadow, on 29 July 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Since no one agrees with me regarding Ano.

Remove Vote
Vote Togg

His request for Demelain to identify the heal targets was a red herring. I still don't think he is really scum, but he has to go.

I voted Ano...

[Anomandaris]

I don't think Togg bothering to comment on this after they've died is a good sign