[Fanderay]

Shadow irks me.

Shadow, on 21 July 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

This sounds far too much like you're accepting Denul is a good target but also bringing up Telas and trying to divert the lynch to Telas

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It is Day 1. 38 minutes remaining.

14 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aparal Forge, Demelain, Denul, Emurlahn, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Korlat, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Togg

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Demelain )
8 Votes for Kessobahn ( Togg, Aparal Forge, Denul, Telas, Olar Ethil, Fanderay, Shadow, Kadagar Fant )
1 Vote for Telas ( Anomandaris )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Kessobahn )

Players not voted: Emurlahn, Korlat, Merrid

3/8 is close enough to the middle of the pack for me

Shadow, on 22 July 2016 - 02:06 AM, said:

Oh I completely agree that both of them are extremely lynchable at the moment. It's just that I don't think any genuine scum would act as scummy as Denul has gone (stupidity notwithstanding). Therefore, I believe there is a higher chance of Telas CFing scum than Denul.

We shouldn't lynch people on day2 due to irritation rather than the highest probability to catch scum.

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

Denul has been lynched, he was Vengeance and William Silverman.

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Telas has been killed. He was JPK and Maxine Murphy.

Knowing you had orders in on Telas I see this last day as a play to a) draw fire from Venge b ) VPI yourself based on how "willing" you were to vote Venge whilst not actually doing so - you were after all providing the lead he was folling in his vote...

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

From here:
It is Day 2. 4 hours and 40 minutes remaining.
2 Votes for Telas ( Shadow, Denul )
7 Votes for Denul ( Demelain, Telas, Olar Ethil, Kadagar Fant, Togg, Aparal Forge, Anomandaris )

And c) play by Venges scum rules.

Vote Shadow

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 31 hours and 17 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aparal Forge, Demelain, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Togg

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Merrid ( Kadagar Fant )
1 Vote for Shadow ( Fanderay )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Aparal Forge, Demelain, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Togg

[Demelain]

My brain is melting. Exhaustion from weekend is cathing up, and this is a "lots of unpaid overtime" week.

Merrid's last tirade is just...

Fandy's look at Shadow is interesting. Although not sure I approve using Telas's kill as part of reasoning. Nevertheless, it's more interesting than his previous suggestion that me and Togg were directing the thread too much.

I'll try to look at stuff in more detail tomorrow, but not in the morning. Beyond that, i'll be probably on very sporadically.

[Togg]

Back on land at last, and at the hotel bar. After a reread on the plane, I'd have to agree with Fanderay's assessment of Shadow. He looks like he was trying to derail from Denul with the Telas case.

vote Shadow

[Merrid]

Demelain, on 25 July 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

My brain is melting. Exhaustion from weekend is cathing up, and this is a "lots of unpaid overtime" week.

Merrid's last tirade is just...

Fandy's look at Shadow is interesting. Although not sure I approve using Telas's kill as part of reasoning. Nevertheless, it's more interesting than his previous suggestion that me and Togg were directing the thread too much.

I'll try to look at stuff in more detail tomorrow, but not in the morning. Beyond that, i'll be probably on very sporadically.

Are you sure you know what 'tirade' means?

[Demelain]

Merrid, on 26 July 2016 - 01:35 AM, said:

Demelain, on 25 July 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

My brain is melting. Exhaustion from weekend is cathing up, and this is a "lots of unpaid overtime" week.

Merrid's last tirade is just...

Fandy's look at Shadow is interesting. Although not sure I approve using Telas's kill as part of reasoning. Nevertheless, it's more interesting than his previous suggestion that me and Togg were directing the thread too much.

I'll try to look at stuff in more detail tomorrow, but not in the morning. Beyond that, i'll be probably on very sporadically.

Are you sure you know what 'tirade' means?

Fine, allow me to correct myself:

Merrid's latest apologetic whine was just....

Now, are you actually going to contribute something or, will you continue posting self-referential nothings?

[Merrid]

Demelain, on 26 July 2016 - 03:48 AM, said:

Merrid, on 26 July 2016 - 01:35 AM, said:

Demelain, on 25 July 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

My brain is melting. Exhaustion from weekend is cathing up, and this is a "lots of unpaid overtime" week.

Merrid's last tirade is just...

Fandy's look at Shadow is interesting. Although not sure I approve using Telas's kill as part of reasoning. Nevertheless, it's more interesting than his previous suggestion that me and Togg were directing the thread too much.

I'll try to look at stuff in more detail tomorrow, but not in the morning. Beyond that, i'll be probably on very sporadically.

Are you sure you know what 'tirade' means?

Fine, allow me to correct myself:

Merrid's latest apologetic whine was just....

Now, are you actually going to contribute something or, will you continue posting self-referential nothings?

Can nothing be self-referential?

Also, I've neither apologised nor whined. Let's stick to the facts, yo.

So Denul was scum, right? I suggest we, by which I mean, probably someone else, look at those who didn't interact with them on thread. I see there's a case on Shadow because of potential deflection. Possible. Not the way I would do it if I was scum, though. I would put the noose round Denul myself at the first sign of popular suspicion. I wouldn't bother defending or deflecting in the least. But on the other hand others just aren't as smart as me. As I have aptly demonstrated thus far.

[Shadow]

Fanderay, on 25 July 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

Shadow irks me.

Shadow, on 21 July 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

This sounds far too much like you're accepting Denul is a good target but also bringing up Telas and trying to divert the lynch to Telas

Quote

It is Day 1. 38 minutes remaining.

14 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aparal Forge, Demelain, Denul, Emurlahn, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Korlat, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Togg

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Demelain )
8 Votes for Kessobahn ( Togg, Aparal Forge, Denul, Telas, Olar Ethil, Fanderay, Shadow, Kadagar Fant )
1 Vote for Telas ( Anomandaris )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Kessobahn )

Players not voted: Emurlahn, Korlat, Merrid

3/8 is close enough to the middle of the pack for me

Shadow, on 22 July 2016 - 02:06 AM, said:

Oh I completely agree that both of them are extremely lynchable at the moment. It's just that I don't think any genuine scum would act as scummy as Denul has gone (stupidity notwithstanding). Therefore, I believe there is a higher chance of Telas CFing scum than Denul.

We shouldn't lynch people on day2 due to irritation rather than the highest probability to catch scum.

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

Denul has been lynched, he was Vengeance and William Silverman.

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Telas has been killed. He was JPK and Maxine Murphy.

Knowing you had orders in on Telas I see this last day as a play to a) draw fire from Venge b ) VPI yourself based on how "willing" you were to vote Venge whilst not actually doing so - you were after all providing the lead he was folling in his vote...

Path-Shaper, on 24 July 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

From here:
It is Day 2. 4 hours and 40 minutes remaining.
2 Votes for Telas ( Shadow, Denul )
7 Votes for Denul ( Demelain, Telas, Olar Ethil, Kadagar Fant, Togg, Aparal Forge, Anomandaris )

And c) play by Venges scum rules.

Vote Shadow

Sorry I have been so silent today. Fucking Ikea furniture though.

Overall, the accusation that I was reluctant to vote for Denul won't be met with much resistance from me. I was reluctant to do it, because I honestly believed Telas was a better option, and the thread's willingness to give Telas a pass for his "oh, I'm really really sowwy I didn't read Kessobahn's posts" was irking me to no end.

With the way the CFs turned out, I was obviously wrong. I can't do much about that right now, however much scummy it makes me look.

[Kadagar Fant]

You agree it makes you look scummy, and so far one of the best places for us to look

remove vote

Vote Shadow

[Shadow]

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

[Kadagar Fant]

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

[Shadow]

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

My CF.
Reveals are forbidden, so I can't say anymore.

[Kadagar Fant]

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

My CF.
Reveals are forbidden, so I can't say anymore.

Not asking you to reveal, any particular day we should be looking at?

[Anomandaris]

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

My CF.
Reveals are forbidden, so I can't say anymore.

I see 3 possibilities. Dem would be aware of Two of Them if it was them. Dem are you aware of how Shadow would VPI you?

[Kadagar Fant]

Anomandaris, on 26 July 2016 - 09:20 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

My CF.
Reveals are forbidden, so I can't say anymore.

I see 3 possibilities. Dem would be aware of Two of Them if it was them. Dem are you aware of how Shadow would VPI you?

I know Ano, we'd need to narrow down the how to spot a lie.

[Shadow]

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 26 July 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

Shadow, on 26 July 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I really can't do much to argue against a lynch.

What I suggest the thread do however, is not lynch me for today, because the remaining scum will take care of it in light of the fact that I can VPI Demelain.

really, I see the possibilities, how can you vpi him?

My CF.
Reveals are forbidden, so I can't say anymore.

Not asking you to reveal, any particular day we should be looking at?

I don't know how much levy I have in revealing this information. (because If I say the day it will be a reveal for all intents and purposes)

Let's just say it's really obvious, but Dem wouldn't know about it.

[Kadagar Fant]

Well if that's the case i'll move back to my original thought of today

remove vote

Vote Merrid

Denul, on 21 July 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

Looking back over I am hesitant to vote for emu or Merrid. I feel that kesso is a little higher on the scum list mainly because of his quote about the zombie mechanic. Talking about a mechanic that nobody knows who can activate is just generating wifom and that is always scummy.

vote kesso

This is my main reason.

[Kadagar Fant]

Interesting read between Demelain first voting Denul and then Togg's "analysis" which just consisted of quotes and not much content.

Then after each interaction we get Dem pointing the finger at Denul

Demelain, on 21 July 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

To make it clear: i'm not saying we should dismiss Emu. But realistically, as is always the case, we probably won't come back to low-posters till later, once we run out of other ideas. I'm still perfectly ok getting rid of ballast, but only if there's nothing better as an alternative. Which at this time I feel there is. Namely, Denul.

Whereas Togg mentioning him but also others..

Togg, on 21 July 2016 - 07:23 PM, said:

I'd have to say that based on my reread, Korlat, Merrid, Denul and Emur are top on my list. I'd like to see if Emur shows up. Korlat bugs me the most with his "Oops I missed timeout" comment.

Togg, on 21 July 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

Based on my reread, I think there are a few outliers that are trying too hard to
1) Not gain too much attention
2) Are trying too hard at saying nothing in their posts.

For the most part that fits for Korlat, Merrid and Denul.

Demelain, on 21 July 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:

Korlat and Merrid entertained me on Day 1. If they don't start playing seriously, I'll take another look, but right now i'm leaning towards Denul, tbh.

You see what I mean, just a thought but Togg doesn't look great in these interactions earlier. Right at this time there was only Dem's vote of Denul. No one else had voted I don't think.

[Demelain]

There's 2 ways I can see myself being VPI'd (one of them thru meta and fact that Vengy was scum), and they both involve NAs.

[Anomandaris]

Demelain, on 26 July 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

There's 2 ways I can see myself being VPI'd (one of them thru meta and fact that Vengy was scum

Yeah but everybody knows that one already, its not like we need shadow to Tell us