[Anomandaris]

Denul, on 21 July 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

Telas, on 21 July 2016 - 04:27 AM, said:

Alright, over the course of the night it has become apparent to me that the Merrid vote isn't going to gain enough traction to secure a lynch. Beyond that, he's been participating much more during the last several hours so my coasting complaint is moot. At this point the outlier for me is Kesso for over-reacting to the coasting accusations. On top of that there's the zombie speculation about a role that was pretty well defined in the set-up. It's a sleeper agent that doesn't know that it's a zom until it gets triggered. At that point that player becomes a recruiter. What about that is unclear?Remove VoteVote Kesso

Telas's vote an hour later. He votes for the exact same reason as me but doesn't bother to acknowledge my vote or reasoning event though it is just the next post up. Telas's vote is also the 4th and basically puts Kesso over the edge.

No, Telas was voting based on the other zombie comment by Demelain. That is more reasonable than your voting based on what Kess really said imo.

[Anomandaris]

Denul, on 21 July 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

I am unsure what to make of Telas. He could be a very spastic town player or he could be scum. I am hesitant to vote for him as I feel that I may have blinders on due to his vote on me.

About this I feel similarly. I find the way he gives reasons and explanations of his moves little ungenuine and forced. And his sincere apology. Speaks of someone trying hard to avoid to have grudges held against them and their motives being doubted.

[Shadow]

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

[Merrid]

Kadagar Fant, on 21 July 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:

Looking it over a couple of times I am on the fence. First of all reading up the thread until Emur posts and everyone is joining in the banter/rp. Yet Emur just posts hus checking in post. Now how I see this and the reason for my vote ...

When I get a role either good or bad I feel pressured to play a certain way. I find it hard to be nonchalant and the rp becomes a scary place to post. It's easier to check in and leave and give it some time before getting involved. Anyway, the vote goes down on Emur to gauge his reaction.

From there Kesso and Merrid are opposed to my vote. Kesso says I'm jumpy and Merrid says we should look elsewhere.

That's about the crux of the little exchange. It makes me feel like Emur was the best lynch today.

Looking at Kessos latest post I don't think he looks that bothered. Like he's done his job and taken one for his team.

I'd have thought being L1 he'd have more to say.

What? I absolutely never said that. I never made any comment on your vote.

[Demelain]

Shadow, on 21 July 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

In an ideal world, I'd want to see both CFs, tbh. No matter what Denul says, with the day winding down and top 2 trains having 2 votes apiece, a single vote is enough to build momentum if it's in a vacuum (there's no one to discuss and argu it).

I'm not sure how genuine Telas is either, and it's bugging me. But Denul trying to justify his vote is irritating me a lot more. As are his insinuations that I'm partnered with Telas. I majority goes that way, I can see myself switching to Telas, but Denul has my preference for now.

Re: not looking @ middle of trains: basically @ this point there's the 2 train starters, 3 swing votes (OE's driveby is a whole other topic), and then the 3 "if I must, i'm only doing this to get a lynch" votes, which are neither here nor there on their own.

Unless you suggest we disregard the train completely, in which case we are back to Merrid and Emu.

[Togg]

Demelain, on 22 July 2016 - 01:26 AM, said:

Shadow, on 21 July 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

In an ideal world, I'd want to see both CFs, tbh. No matter what Denul says, with the day winding down and top 2 trains having 2 votes apiece, a single vote is enough to build momentum if it's in a vacuum (there's no one to discuss and argu it).

I'm not sure how genuine Telas is either, and it's bugging me. But Denul trying to justify his vote is irritating me a lot more. As are his insinuations that I'm partnered with Telas. I majority goes that way, I can see myself switching to Telas, but Denul has my preference for now.

Re: not looking @ middle of trains: basically @ this point there's the 2 train starters, 3 swing votes (OE's driveby is a whole other topic), and then the 3 "if I must, i'm only doing this to get a lynch" votes, which are neither here nor there on their own.

Unless you suggest we disregard the train completely, in which case we are back to Merrid and Emu.

So why are you dismissing Korlat? He is coasting just as much as Merrid in my book.

[Shadow]

Demelain, on 22 July 2016 - 01:26 AM, said:

Shadow, on 21 July 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'm here and read up.
So far, I dislike both Denul and Telas. Looking over their posts from day1, they both look like people who did not care about who they left their vote on and just wanted a lynch, which is an obviously scummy thing to do. However, I like Telas more than Denul for a lynch, not because I think the reasons for Denul's votes were better, but rather because Telas immediately entered damage control mode at the beginning of day2. Damage control is far more scummy than Denul's oblivious excuses regarding why he was acting stupid.

Vote Telas

With that out of the way, I feel the need to point out that the middle of the lynch train is not where you expect to find the scum on the first day. It is just something to keep in mind while we're looking for suspects.

In an ideal world, I'd want to see both CFs, tbh. No matter what Denul says, with the day winding down and top 2 trains having 2 votes apiece, a single vote is enough to build momentum if it's in a vacuum (there's no one to discuss and argu it).

I'm not sure how genuine Telas is either, and it's bugging me. But Denul trying to justify his vote is irritating me a lot more. As are his insinuations that I'm partnered with Telas. I majority goes that way, I can see myself switching to Telas, but Denul has my preference for now.

Re: not looking @ middle of trains: basically @ this point there's the 2 train starters, 3 swing votes (OE's driveby is a whole other topic), and then the 3 "if I must, i'm only doing this to get a lynch" votes, which are neither here nor there on their own.

Unless you suggest we disregard the train completely, in which case we are back to Merrid and Emu.

Oh I completely agree that both of them are extremely lynchable at the moment. It's just that I don't think any genuine scum would act as scummy as Denul has gone (stupidity notwithstanding). Therefore, I believe there is a higher chance of Telas CFing scum than Denul.

We shouldn't lynch people on day2 due to irritation rather than the highest probability to catch scum.

[Demelain]

See, I don't see scum being this blatantly apologetic-in the olden days Telas would be halfway lynched for playing like that right now. Denul's "it was just Day 1, guys" defence is much more traditional, except he's clearly overdoing it by trying to say that pretty much everyone involved asked for smth like this to happen.

But yes, the fact he's accusing me of being partnered with Telas and trying to orchestrate his lynch may also be colouring my perception somewhat.

[Olar Ethil]

So I went and read through the entire thread again, and Denul's vote on Kesso is utter BS

Demelain, on 20 July 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

Back, and my head hurts. Hallucogens and alcohol are a potent mix. How can there be coasters on Day 1 so early? Odd.Anyhow, if I read things correctly, one of the players is Coroner. So a random lynch could be a really BAD thing (worse than usual), since we might lose our CF early on. I also don't really get how teh zombie thang may work, but i'll save that for later. Suffice to say, when I have some hangover beer, i'll have to squint and take a look at who's too eager for early blood.

Dem does not get how the Zombie mechanic might work which is odd as it doesn't seem too complicated.

Kessobahn, on 20 July 2016 - 04:28 PM, said:

Demelain, on 20 July 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

I also don't really get how teh zombie thang may work, but i'll save that for later.

I think the layout provided by PS makes it pretty clear. If you're a zombie and are NK'd, instead of dying you become a zombie and get recruiting power. We don't have any indication of zombie VC, but it's safe to assume it's eliminate others.

Kesso responds by answering.

Denul, on 21 July 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

Looking back over I am hesitant to vote for emu or Merrid. I feel that kesso is a little higher on the scum list mainly because of his quote about the zombie mechanic. Talking about a mechanic that nobody knows who can activate is just generating wifom and that is always scummy. vote kesso

How is it scummy? How is it scummy at all? He didn't raise it, he replied to Dem! And Telas followed this with a vote and I am embarrassed to admit so did I.

But Denul's reason makes no sense whatsoever.

Vote Denul

[Demelain]

*cue Denul saying OE is also my partner*

I got elbowed in my back just below the shoulder blade tonight. It hurts like a bitch. I'll probably crash early tonight.

[Kadagar Fant]

Merrid, on 22 July 2016 - 01:06 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 21 July 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:

Looking it over a couple of times I am on the fence. First of all reading up the thread until Emur posts and everyone is joining in the banter/rp. Yet Emur just posts hus checking in post. Now how I see this and the reason for my vote ...

When I get a role either good or bad I feel pressured to play a certain way. I find it hard to be nonchalant and the rp becomes a scary place to post. It's easier to check in and leave and give it some time before getting involved. Anyway, the vote goes down on Emur to gauge his reaction.

From there Kesso and Merrid are opposed to my vote. Kesso says I'm jumpy and Merrid says we should look elsewhere.

That's about the crux of the little exchange. It makes me feel like Emur was the best lynch today.

Looking at Kessos latest post I don't think he looks that bothered. Like he's done his job and taken one for his team.

I'd have thought being L1 he'd have more to say.

What? I absolutely never said that. I never made any comment on your vote.

The flippant coaster remark, what else is that?

[Kadagar Fant]

Olar Ethil, on 22 July 2016 - 03:02 AM, said:

So I went and read through the entire thread again, and Denul's vote on Kesso is utter BS

Demelain, on 20 July 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

Back, and my head hurts. Hallucogens and alcohol are a potent mix. How can there be coasters on Day 1 so early? Odd.Anyhow, if I read things correctly, one of the players is Coroner. So a random lynch could be a really BAD thing (worse than usual), since we might lose our CF early on. I also don't really get how teh zombie thang may work, but i'll save that for later. Suffice to say, when I have some hangover beer, i'll have to squint and take a look at who's too eager for early blood.

Dem does not get how the Zombie mechanic might work which is odd as it doesn't seem too complicated.

Kessobahn, on 20 July 2016 - 04:28 PM, said:

Demelain, on 20 July 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

I also don't really get how teh zombie thang may work, but i'll save that for later.

I think the layout provided by PS makes it pretty clear. If you're a zombie and are NK'd, instead of dying you become a zombie and get recruiting power. We don't have any indication of zombie VC, but it's safe to assume it's eliminate others.

Kesso responds by answering.

Denul, on 21 July 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

Looking back over I am hesitant to vote for emu or Merrid. I feel that kesso is a little higher on the scum list mainly because of his quote about the zombie mechanic. Talking about a mechanic that nobody knows who can activate is just generating wifom and that is always scummy. vote kesso

How is it scummy? How is it scummy at all? He didn't raise it, he replied to Dem! And Telas followed this with a vote and I am embarrassed to admit so did I.

But Denul's reason makes no sense whatsoever.

Vote Denul

I agree with this.

[Kadagar Fant]

Vote Togg

I cannot explain it so must be mostly gut but i'll give it a shot...

[Kadagar Fant]

Kadagar Fant, on 20 July 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 July 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

checking in.

Vote Emurlahn

not sure i like the nothingness.

It starts here, my vote was quick to his post ie 50 minutes later. The thread activity rp/banter was pretty high, yes it looks like Emur turned out to be busy, he could have said as much. "Checking in, no time, will come back later" something along those lines, anyway look at how Togg responds, and then how he pushes...

Togg, on 20 July 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

Back. I agree with looking at coasters.

I didn't say this, as Kesso points out, it was a bit early to look at "coasters"

Togg, on 20 July 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Kesso looks like he is laying low.

Why Kesso over Emurlahn whom I voted for? Why Kesso over a few other people in this category?

Togg, on 20 July 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

It sounds more like Merrid is trying to defend my bringing up Kesso.

vote Kesso but I think Merrid looks squirrelly.

Now ties in Merrid to "defending" Kesso, YET the post Togg is referring to here was posted at exactly the same time. So there is no way that could be true.

So his reasoning for voting Kesso is totally wrong/off.

So fast forward to one of his next posts...

Togg, on 20 July 2016 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 20 July 2016 - 10:19 PM, said:

There's an awful lot of coasting accusation for D1. And what makes it really suspicious is that it started like 15 hours into the game with KF jumping on Emu. WTF? For that I'm voting KF. Off to sleep, will check the status in a few hours.

vote Kadagar Fant

You, Emur and Merrid all seem to be doing a lot of scrambling to defend each other...

I am totally puzzled. There has been no scrambling to defend each other and how on earth is Emur included in that at all I have no idea.

Now today..

Togg, on 21 July 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Back. Timeout was when I was asleep. Good work by our healer! Now to read through yesterday's votes. There were a couple lazy voters ask recall that didn't give much of a reason.

Wants to direct thread, going for the opposite of his playstyle...

Togg, on 21 July 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:

Been busy all day, but I think I finally have a few minutes to catch up.

First:

Demelain Icon 20
Shadow Icon 18
Togg Icon 15
Kadagar Fant Icon 14
Path-Shaper Icon 13
Anomandaris Icon 12
Fanderay Icon 12
Telas Icon 8
Aparal Forge Icon 7
Korlat Icon 7
Denul Icon 7
Merrid Icon 7
Kessobahn Icon 7
Olar Ethil Icon 6
Emurlahn Icon 3

I think the killers are likely trying to lay low at this point of the game to try not to attract notice. I'm going to start looking at the bottom posters. I disagree with Demelain on dismissing Emur, but I want to look at these others.

Then the bullshit quotes of the people he highlighted.

Not much analysis going on.

He really has my scumdar pinging right now.

[Shadow]

I really don't see what's your point KF.
What are claiming Togg has done that has your scumdar pinging? symping, misdirecting the thread, what?

[Kadagar Fant]

Shadow, on 22 July 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

I really don't see what's your point KF.
What are claiming Togg has done that has your scumdar pinging? symping, misdirecting the thread, what?

Did not mention symping there. I'd say misdirecting the thread and lying/misinterpreting Merrid's "defense" and creating a Merrid/Emur/Kesso triangle which still perplexes me.

[Kadagar Fant]

Kadagar Fant, on 22 July 2016 - 07:57 AM, said:

Vote Togg

I cannot explain it so must be mostly gut but i'll give it a shot...

Also did you miss this bit Shadow?

[Merrid]

Kadagar Fant, on 22 July 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

Merrid, on 22 July 2016 - 01:06 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 21 July 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:

Looking it over a couple of times I am on the fence. First of all reading up the thread until Emur posts and everyone is joining in the banter/rp. Yet Emur just posts hus checking in post. Now how I see this and the reason for my vote ...

When I get a role either good or bad I feel pressured to play a certain way. I find it hard to be nonchalant and the rp becomes a scary place to post. It's easier to check in and leave and give it some time before getting involved. Anyway, the vote goes down on Emur to gauge his reaction.

From there Kesso and Merrid are opposed to my vote. Kesso says I'm jumpy and Merrid says we should look elsewhere.

That's about the crux of the little exchange. It makes me feel like Emur was the best lynch today.

Looking at Kessos latest post I don't think he looks that bothered. Like he's done his job and taken one for his team.

I'd have thought being L1 he'd have more to say.

What? I absolutely never said that. I never made any comment on your vote.

The flippant coaster remark, what else is that?

It's exactly what you just said it was, a flippant nonsense remark. I didn't care who you were voting for, and I find it hard to believe that anyone would have truly taken it so seriously.

[Merrid]

Kadagar Fant, on 22 July 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

Shadow, on 22 July 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

I really don't see what's your point KF.
What are claiming Togg has done that has your scumdar pinging? symping, misdirecting the thread, what?

Did not mention symping there. I'd say misdirecting the thread and lying/misinterpreting Merrid's "defense" and creating a Merrid/Emur/Kesso triangle which still perplexes me.

Erm, while I agree about the misrepresentation, didn't you yourself just do the exact same thing with my posts as you accuse Togg of doing?

[Kadagar Fant]

Merrid, on 22 July 2016 - 10:39 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 22 July 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

Merrid, on 22 July 2016 - 01:06 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 21 July 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:

Looking it over a couple of times I am on the fence. First of all reading up the thread until Emur posts and everyone is joining in the banter/rp. Yet Emur just posts hus checking in post. Now how I see this and the reason for my vote ...

When I get a role either good or bad I feel pressured to play a certain way. I find it hard to be nonchalant and the rp becomes a scary place to post. It's easier to check in and leave and give it some time before getting involved. Anyway, the vote goes down on Emur to gauge his reaction.

From there Kesso and Merrid are opposed to my vote. Kesso says I'm jumpy and Merrid says we should look elsewhere.

That's about the crux of the little exchange. It makes me feel like Emur was the best lynch today.

Looking at Kessos latest post I don't think he looks that bothered. Like he's done his job and taken one for his team.

I'd have thought being L1 he'd have more to say.

What? I absolutely never said that. I never made any comment on your vote.

The flippant coaster remark, what else is that?

It's exactly what you just said it was, a flippant nonsense remark. I didn't care who you were voting for, and I find it hard to believe that anyone would have truly taken it so seriously.

Well i've noticed how much Togg ran with it, and used it in his reasoning for voting Kesso, when it looked to be a crosspost.