[cowl]

1: QB takes pleasure in destroying Hairlock due to hairlock becoming to powerfull and unpredictable. he was delving too far into chaos to control proberly and causing more problem for QB rather than helping investigate tays and the rest of the people who were trying to destroy the BB

2: the killing of all the people by the hounds was done by shadowthrone not the rope. the reasons for that aren't really explained other than to be said to be a diversion for the possesion of sorry

[Trotts]

i think the village was destroyed because shadowthorne and cotillion wanted to cover the tracks of their house and their actions

[cowl]

using the hounds of shaddow to kill all those people kind of gave it away that it was them that had done it. and it was easy enough for the adjuct to find out that 2 people disapeared after the slaughter

[Trotts]

only we knew it was the hounds of shadow, otherwise there was no proof. i mean it looked like they were torn apart by animals, but otherthen that there was nothing.

also this was basically where we first met paran the soldier right? i think it was important that we associate paran with the hounds

[Imperial Historian]

1. Quick Ben transferred hairlock to the puppet due to a deal struck between the two... hairlock seemed to know or at least suspect tays plan to destroy teh old gaurd and so struck a deal with quick to avoid death, he'd serve quick in his puppet form and investigate stuff for him in return for not being killed. hairlock then went out of control and quick takes great pleasure in removing his untrustworthy ally...

2. The killing of the hounds was to worry lasseen and hide the tracks of the possesion. this probably would have worked save for Lorn who was familliar with the cast of the mind of mages and so realised that there was a track to follow... Of course a suspicious mind would wonder whether the possesion attempt was meant to succeed... for example if apsalar really wished to assasinate the empress why go to genabackis about as far away from the empress as she could get, and theres some further little titbits revealed in DhG, somehow don't think the wheels within wheels in shadowthrones mind will ever be got to the bottom of.

3. I'm not sure what you mean about investigating sorry... paran and lorns job was to locate her and then kill her... paran was killed before he could do anything and by the time lorn was in a position to do anything sorry had been de-possesed

[Called-by-the-Voices]

S P O I L E R Warning!

Apsalar was going to assassainate Laseen only after she becomes the Sha'ik Reborn and drags the Empress all the way to Seven Cities. Fiddler says in DG that the Rope-possessed Sorry would never be suceed in killing Laseen, with the Claw and the Adjunct's Otataral sword. I am begining to think like this:

Rope and Shadowthrone killed the whole regiment ad send Sorry to Genabackis in order to make sure that te Adjunct FINDS OUT about the possession, witch would send her flying to Darujhistan, straight into Rake's hands. Then, Rope de-possessed Sorry deliberately, knowing that the Bridgeburners would send her home via the Seven Cities. There, on their way to Tremorlor (the fastest transport) they come across Iskaral Pust and his Servant which is Sorry's father. She is lead to become the Sha'ik Reborn, leads the rebellion and draws the Empress herself to Seven cities. There, she kills her with her god-given powers.

Am I good, or what? Just a joke

[Folken]

Dude...all that you write contradicts everything we've been told...just read on

[caladanbrood]

Klipper said:

SPOILER

Aspler dosn't become Sha'ik reborn. Get the book strait.

Maybe not, but its possible that was just a cock-up Nothing goes to plan in these books;)

[Folken]

caladanbrood said:

Maybe not, but its possible that was just a cock-up Nothing goes to plan in these books;)

Thats the beauty of these novels.

[Ijon Tichy]

I am rereading GOTM right now, and I am also puzzled by the massacre of the village at the start. Totally unnecessary and even detrimental to the plans of Shadowthrone and the Rope. They could've just taken the fisher girl and that's it...no one would've cared much about it, certainly the Adjunct would have never been involved.

Also did Lorn really intend to try to kill a girl possessed by The Rope on her own? Is she suicidal or what? She doesn't have even a glimmer of a chance, Otataral sword or not.

[Trotts]

'Eager, are we? Then go!'
Silently, the Hounds bolted down the road.
Their master turned and said to the man beside her, 'Something to gnaw on Laseen's mind.' He giggled again.
'Must you complicate things?' the other answered wearily.

this suggests, at least to me, that dancer wanted to piss laseen off, and kellnaved knew it wasent gonna be helpful but was basically just like, ya whatever.

[Imperial Historian]

Er actually it's kelvanned who wanted to piss lasseen off and dancer didn't, kel is the insane one after all...

[Trotts]

my bad my bad, hehe

quote still stands

[Brys]

CountChocula said:

'Eager, are we? Then go!'
Silently, the Hounds bolted down the road.
Their master turned and said to the man beside her, 'Something to gnaw on Laseen's mind.' He giggled again.
'Must you complicate things?' the other answered wearily.

this suggests, at least to me, that dancer wanted to piss laseen off, and kellnaved knew it wasent gonna be helpful but was basically just like, ya whatever.

Lol, only Erikson could predict the criticisms that would come and address them so well.

[Ijon Tichy]

So that's pretty much explained. Still I can't understand why Lorn would be so confident she'd be able to kill The Rope. Maybe she was just suicidal.

[Trotts]

thing that bugs me is they call her laseen. i mean, first, they knew her as surly for waaaaay longer, and i dunno, the name laseen is like a barb against kell