[Tapper]

Path-Shaper, on 05 May 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 29 hours 10 minutes remaining


6 players alive: Andorion, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, Khellendros, Macros, Tapper

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes for Night.

2 votes Khell; Gust Hubb, Tapper

Players not voted: Andorion, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, Khellendros, Macros, Tapper

actually, it is GH and Mac, not me.

[Andorion]

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Tapper, on 05 May 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tapper, on 05 May 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

I think Mac is VPI.

Why?

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Gusty, PI.

Why?


I'm genuinely asking for your reasoning, not trying to be annoying.

Mac's game has been what I see as a contributing town game.
Yes, he hasn't made many waves and has not been examined at all, but he consecutively has kept multiple scenario's open, was involved in most trains and is the only one genuinely upset at there being no lynches.
Essentially, he played like you did for most of the game. More importantly, he also was the only one to initially spot the targeting bit in Bubba's reveal, which no scum would do: it would either expose a (fellow) scum or potentially VPI you at a time when that was not opportune at all - see GH's obsession.

If Gust was scum (and he might still be) he chose a very odd obsession in you and then Bliss. Once again, no cases on him, except mine, and much of that rested on interplay between him and Tatts.
Tatts CFed RI, and if we have a three scum scenario then Tatts probably wasn't GH's symp. His constant out-of-the-gates vote-for-Khell cases were bad and I'd say tunnel-visioned, but would a scum play like that?
To go back, he also had a gut feeling about JPK - early distancing, maybe, but why pick a new guy for that?

Out of all of us, one feels like a good town and the other like tunnel visioned town, but both give me a town vibe.

I *think* I mostly agree on Mac. It worries me that no one has looked at him at all - although Andorion is making noises in that direction, but I do generally agree with your assessment. What strengthens it for me is that Kitsu had a bit of an obsession with Macros (which I remember from when I looked at Kitsu's posts way back when).


As for Gust, I agree less with the assessment there. I've been accused of being scum before because I only focused on one or two players (not saying I agree with that reasoning, but some do subscribe to it), rather than looking at the group as a whole. And it's not distancing from JPK if he had no idea JPK was scum - we still don't know how the scum work - one or the other could always be a solo killer (this also I guess actually applies to Kitsu focusing on Mac, now that I think about it).

And Khell you do seem to be leaning pretty hard towards exonerating Mac and GH here.

[Khellendros]

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

And Khell you do seem to be leaning pretty hard towards exonerating Mac and GH here.

Then you read it wrong.

Out of the two, I'd lean more toward Mac being town, but certainly wouldn't 'exonerate' either. That's what that summarises to.

[Path-Shaper]

Updated.

Tatts

[Andorion]

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 02:59 PM, said:

I just have this feeling that if we lose and see the game setup there will be a lot of facepalms around.

At this point we can either try to repeat the Khell lynch, or try something on Dhenrabi?

I am frankly undecided on Tapper. He has had some crazy theories but I have a lot of trouble believing scum would put themselves out there as much as that.

I personally doubt Dhenrabi is scum. We had two kills yesterday and he wasn't around for the entire day before that. So unless he's super lurking, which would be annoying, I don't any longer think they're scum, and that's pretty much the only person aside from myself that I'm fairly sure of.

So Khell, if you think Mac, Dhenrabi and Gust are innocent, for you that just leaves me and Tapper.

I can assure you I am RI. You can obviously lynch me, but I will be RI, you will have wasted another lynch and the scum will win.

What are your current thoughts on Tapper?

I certainly don't remember saying Mac and Gust were town. I said I agreed with some points Tapper made and disagree with others.

I have assured people for days that I am RI. How do you think that's worked out for me?

Tapper: It's a really tough one. I agree that the massive theorycrafting that he did earlier is not something I would expect scum to do. I also felt that, on the other hand, up until Bubba's reveal, he constantly seemed to pop up whenever discussion moved to me, and argued about other things. That made me feel suspicious at the time, and still does now. The ease with which he turned around to then aggressively go after me yesterday also had me wondering (and indeed, I voted for him).

However, I also recognise that I could be looking at Tapper with a fair amount of bias - he's attacked me and has generally in some form been linked to me throughout the game (I remember Gust commenting it), so I instinctively look at him negatively. So I think it's up to others to look at and assess him.

One of the big features of this game has been the triangle between you, Tatts and Tapper. There were huge discussions, crazy theories, many possibilities, and the weird thing is that very little has come of it. Now Tatts doesn't surprise me, that is Tatts usual play, but Tapper... I dunno I have never seen him play a lot but in my experience he does not post nearly as much as he has posted this game. I don't how this tallies with your longer experience. But a veteran player would know that low posters and low content medium posters would always get looked at more critically when town gets serious and is looking for a case, and might try to adopt a high posting, theorizing style which also generates just enough confusion as to deflect a lynch. And this has happened in this game. I can't remember the last time we had so many failed lynches.

BTW, all of the above may equally apply to you

Just occurred to me, this scenario would be even more plausible and terrifying if two veterans were in on it, one killer and one symp

[Macros]

home from work.
when was the last time we actually heard from dhenrabi anyway??
I'm going to eat my tea here then will have a half hour or so before going to Vote in the local elections (thankfully Trump doesn't run over here, unluckily the shower of wankers that do aren't much better) then watch the Villareal game, after that, well it depends how the match goes really. Another heart attack win could end up a session

[Khellendros]

Macros, on 05 May 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

home from work.
when was the last time we actually heard from dhenrabi anyway??
I'm going to eat my tea here then will have a half hour or so before going to Vote in the local elections (thankfully Trump doesn't run over here, unluckily the shower of wankers that do aren't much better) then watch the Villareal game, after that, well it depends how the match goes really. Another heart attack win could end up a session

I'm hoping that they go out so that it's easier to decide on my fantasy football team

[Macros]

I hope you Mean you hope Villarreal go out.

[Tapper]

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 May 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Andorion, on 05 May 2016 - 02:59 PM, said:

I just have this feeling that if we lose and see the game setup there will be a lot of facepalms around.

At this point we can either try to repeat the Khell lynch, or try something on Dhenrabi?

I am frankly undecided on Tapper. He has had some crazy theories but I have a lot of trouble believing scum would put themselves out there as much as that.

I personally doubt Dhenrabi is scum. We had two kills yesterday and he wasn't around for the entire day before that. So unless he's super lurking, which would be annoying, I don't any longer think they're scum, and that's pretty much the only person aside from myself that I'm fairly sure of.

So Khell, if you think Mac, Dhenrabi and Gust are innocent, for you that just leaves me and Tapper.

I can assure you I am RI. You can obviously lynch me, but I will be RI, you will have wasted another lynch and the scum will win.

What are your current thoughts on Tapper?

I certainly don't remember saying Mac and Gust were town. I said I agreed with some points Tapper made and disagree with others.

I have assured people for days that I am RI. How do you think that's worked out for me?

Tapper: It's a really tough one. I agree that the massive theorycrafting that he did earlier is not something I would expect scum to do. I also felt that, on the other hand, up until Bubba's reveal, he constantly seemed to pop up whenever discussion moved to me, and argued about other things. That made me feel suspicious at the time, and still does now. The ease with which he turned around to then aggressively go after me yesterday also had me wondering (and indeed, I voted for him).

However, I also recognise that I could be looking at Tapper with a fair amount of bias - he's attacked me and has generally in some form been linked to me throughout the game (I remember Gust commenting it), so I instinctively look at him negatively. So I think it's up to others to look at and assess him.

One of the big features of this game has been the triangle between you, Tatts and Tapper. There were huge discussions, crazy theories, many possibilities, and the weird thing is that very little has come of it. Now Tatts doesn't surprise me, that is Tatts usual play, but Tapper... I dunno I have never seen him play a lot but in my experience he does not post nearly as much as he has posted this game. I don't how this tallies with your longer experience. But a veteran player would know that low posters and low content medium posters would always get looked at more critically when town gets serious and is looking for a case, and might try to adopt a high posting, theorizing style which also generates just enough confusion as to deflect a lynch. And this has happened in this game. I can't remember the last time we had so many failed lynches.

BTW, all of the above may equally apply to you

Just occurred to me, this scenario would be even more plausible and terrifying if two veterans were in on it, one killer and one symp

I had some time on my hands this game - May has a lot of days off. On top of that, there was a great day 1, which sucked me in :-)

[Macros]

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You have me until kick off.

Sort off. Going to check dhens activity yesterday game day

[Macros]

9am, may 3rd I make Dhens last post. (gmt, now 5th may 8pm)
The drive by on Blend to 'put on pressure'

Its raises the question, was he about and lurking or genuinely not about?

[Tapper]

Macros, on 05 May 2016 - 06:45 PM, said:

9am, may 3rd I make Dhens last post. (gmt, now 5th may 8pm)
The drive by on Blend to 'put on pressure'

Its raises the question, was he about and lurking or genuinely not about?

Urgh. I guess genuinely not around, but... should we now discount him because it has been over 48 hours?

[Dhenrabi]

Sorry guys I'm here. I worked the last few days and am quite drunk right now but I didn't mean to ditch you like that.

[Andorion]

I might be going to bed now. Not in the best of health at the moment. Will be around in 6-7 hours maybe.

[Gnaw]

It is Day 6. 24 hours 20 minutes remaining


6 players alive: Andorion, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, Khellendros, Macros, Tapper

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes for Night.

2 votes Khell; Gust Hubb, Macros

Players not voted: Andorion, Dhenrabi, Khellendros, Tapper

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 05 May 2016 - 08:55 PM

[Macros]

Another European final.
Oh god I am so tempted to go to Basel, I know I'll get a ticket.
Pricing flights tonight to fuck.

On topic, we have 24 hours, so Im keen to see what dhenrabi says when he sobers up

[Tapper]

Well, with 24 on the clock and a bit drunk on Liverpools victory, I will wait till the morning.

[Tattersail_]

Tattersail's ghost flits into the room dancing and cheering as he sees the mighty reds reach another final.

[Khellendros]

***takes Sturridge out of fantasy football plans***

[Macros]

have flights, trains booked.
waiting on confirmation for my accomdation, and have just discovered that because UEFA are a bunch of corporate dick suckers theres only 11,000 seats allocated to liverpool. This means (quite rightly) those fans who went to all 7 home games and at least 1 away get guaranteed tickets.
but, unlike the capital one final, where we had over 40,000 tickets allocated, fans who have been to all 7 home games, get fucked. put into a bloody ballot with people who haven't been to all 7. And you just know, KNOW, some of the arseholes going for the ballot just want a ticket to scalp.