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Mafia 131 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread

#661 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 03:46 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 15 April 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

It is Day 6. 31 hours and 2 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Silanah, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Silanah ( Aranatha, Kessobahn )
2 Votes for Ultama ( Fener, Demelain )
2 Votes for Fener ( Ultama, Eloth )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Silanah


Here we have the Fifth, as far as I'm concerned. Attempted derail on Silanah, and direct counter-attack against me. Aranatha, Kesso, Fener, and Demelain -- clear as day.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 04:00 PM

I think Demelain might be Mockra. I've still got to check a few more things, and I could definitely be wide of the mark, but there are certain noticeable similarities. I'll post some examples when I get a bit more time. Might do it in more detail over the weekend as we're probably entering a freeze soon anyway.

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 12:16 PM

I'm going to assume we are frozen.

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 05:02 PM

Yes, weekend freeze started with around 20 hours remaining to Day 6.
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 01:06 PM

Hope everyone had a good weekend. Just putting together some comparisons now. Incidentally, what is it with pretty much everyone failing to use full stops in their final sentences? I thought that might be a great clue as to who else Mockra might be, but turns out everyone does it! What are we, savages?


NB: I have nothing against savages and respect all cultures equally.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:12 PM

It is Day 6. 20 hours remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Silanah, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Silanah ( Aranatha, Kessobahn )
2 Votes for Ultama ( Fener, Demelain )
2 Votes for Fener ( Ultama, Eloth )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Silanah

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2016 - 06:39 PM

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:23 PM

So there are several things about Mockra's posts which I looked at and compared to other alts. Things such as lack of full stops on final sentences, use of speech marks rather than apostrophes, use of any unusual words, frequent use of certain punctuation, such as exclamation marks.

Some of these, like the exclamations, seem likely to have been used in order to differentiate this alt. Others, such as the full stops I mentioned earlier, are pretty common to most people and don't really give many hints as to who it could be.

There was one thing, however, which seemed pretty much unique to Mockra and one other alt - capitalization of some words which didn't really need it. That other alt is Demelain. I have highlighted these instances in red below in a selection of Mockra and Demelain's posts.

There are also a couple of other points to make, which I will state in the next post.


View PostDemelain, on 31 March 2016 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 31 March 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

View PostLock, on 31 March 2016 - 10:22 AM, said:

Here.
Toggs acting like a crack addicted monkey chained to a keyboard.
And possibly chained to arantha too. Or at least engaging in some light leg humping.


Time for the hose!!

vote togg

Why?

Because


I take it leaders don't know their underlings then


And Vice Versa?



View PostMockra, on 31 March 2016 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 31 March 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

Yes. I think its high odds that Grasp is in that faction. I don't care if i'm lynched :)



View PostAranatha, on 31 March 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 31 March 2016 - 07:40 AM, said:

Aranatha you're on fire this game! Just did a quick read up and you're pulling out some great stuff!

View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

The earth of the dungeon's floor, the fire from a nearby torch, water from a nearby stream and mist from the air coalesce into the form of a foot tall gorilla visible to everyone.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

As Serc walks by a torch, the flames from the torch shoot out and form a helmet of flames over Serc's head, cutting off his eyesight and breathing for one minute. After one minute, the flames dissipate, leaving a confused Serc short of breath and with singed hair on the top of his head.
Call me Captain Suspicious if you will, but I'm going to Remove VoteVote Togg


I am not voting on Togg yet. This is all too obvious and seems like a Red Herring.



View PostDemelain, on 31 March 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 11 March 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Game Specific RulesDays are 48 hours. Nights are as instant as possible.There is potential for there to be abilities to return you from the dead. Because of this, CF will not include player name. There will be a thread in Spoiler Heaven for those who are dead but could go back into the game - please only post in that thread using your game alt.There are four factions with four members each. Each faction has one faction leader, one heir (who becomes faction leader should the faction leader die), one elite faction member, and one regular faction member.There are times where you may lose control of your alt - you will be informed via the Alt PM sent to your regular account if this is the case.There are all kinds of abilities that mess with as close to all aspects of the game as I could think of - if something seems off to you, there is a good chance that it is supposed to be. We, as the mods, reserve the right to answer any questions about whether something is off or not with vague responses or no response at all. If we HAVE made a mistake, we will always mention it on thread, whether or not it affects the outcome of the game.There will be a LOT going on in this game for the mods to keep track of, so please be patient with us.Reveals are allowed, however no quoting your role PM or ability lists. I tried to build this game so that it has a lot of replay value due to all the different classes and all the different ways you can personalize your characters. The less of that information that becomes public knowledge, the more we can use this template for future games!No offsite coding allowed.Order of Resolution: Heal > Buff > Guard > Control > Debuff > Other > Attack



View PostPath-Shaper, on 30 March 2016 - 04:00 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 30 March 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

So have we ethically outlawed md5 hash to prevent alt takeovers? If not here's mine:57b5554c2dceed8486a5ce694106cfd9
Ah, meant to add this to the "rules of this game" - no offsite coding allowed.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

As Serc walks by a torch, the flames from the torch shoot out and form a helmet of flames over Serc's head, cutting off his eyesight and breathing for one minute. After one minute, the flames dissipate, leaving a confused Serc short of breath and with singed hair on the top of his head.



View PostSerc, on 31 March 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 31 March 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

As Serc walks by a torch, the flames from the torch shoot out and form a helmet of flames over Serc's head, cutting off his eyesight and breathing for one minute. After one minute, the flames dissipate, leaving a confused Serc short of breath and with singed hair on the top of his head.
Serc, any comment?Tis is the only one that seems to have had an effect.
Well, I'm truly confused.


Since the OP specifically forbids offsite coding and PS has emphasized this, alt takeover can happen. So I am wondering, that little light show with Serc, and the emphasis on "confusion", are we looking at an Alt takeover day action maybe?


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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:24 PM

View PostMockra, on 01 April 2016 - 04:07 AM, said:

Has anybody noticed that Serc never responded to the Alt takeover theory? Its been around 11 hours since it was posted. Is he being deliberately kept inactive?



View PostMockra, on 06 April 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

View PostUltama, on 06 April 2016 - 05:07 AM, said:

Well I skimmed what I could. I think those reveals are really heavy for day 2, which makes me suspect that it may be a desperate attempt at deflecting from Togg. That said we kind of need to check at least one of them to determine if we're being played. I'm going to need to go over the thread again.



View PostKessobahn, on 06 April 2016 - 05:13 AM, said:

View PostMonok Ochem, on 06 April 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

The original post was a Serc Reveal from pseudo Serc. Then Serc came on and revealed his info about Rhyll and Togg. Then Pseudo Serc came back on and was like oh btw Sercs leader is Telas. At the moment im inclined to believe Pseudo Serc and Telas gives us the highest possible payout of the 4 revealed.
So basically your agreeing with the posting and reveals that he is making, that takes off all previous pressure from Togg is what you are getting at then?


I agree that this kerfuffle has comfortable deflected attention from TOgg, but we do need to test the reveals, and lynch somebody. If the reveals are correct a Telas Lynch has more payoff.

Vote Telas



View PostMockra, on 07 April 2016 - 12:46 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 07 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 07 April 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

Anyone else noticed the CFs are not telling us which players have been lynched? Just roles.



Blend said that people could be brought back into the game.


Oh right, missed that.


The "Our Faction" phrase does indicate that they were on the same faction.

But the rest of the convo does not make sense at all. If they were on the same faction, then why is Ryll practically threatening Serc to divulge info? Serc does not seem at all sure Ryll is on his team, hence the line about "proving yourself". In fact the entire episode reads like somebody trying to sidestep a hostile interrogation.

I am very sceptical of what both of them are claiming. Serc may not necessarily be a regular. Remember, Ryll only quoted a portion of PMs. From the way it starts, there is more we are not seeing.



View PostMockra, on 12 April 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:

Since PS hasn't shown up yet, is the Timer still frozen?



View PostDemelain, on 15 April 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

I have a theory about Ultama. His tendency of shouting on thread about being attacked bothered me from the very beginning. After all what does he expect? he will get candy? I think he is a leader and his shouting is signalling to his minions to direct their Night Actions.



View PostDemelain, on 15 April 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Anybody know how much time left? I am out for now, will probably miss end of Day or Weekend Freeze


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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:32 PM

You'll notice that both write "alt" as "Alt". They also both use the term "red herring" (though, yes, only one of the puts it in capitals). Mockra's you can see above. Here is Demelain's.


View PostDemelain, on 31 March 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Iam not going to be around for end of day probably. I see two options with Togg. Either he is an important player who has messed up or he is a red herring.

I think he should only be lynched if we have no other viable option



Finally, the "Vice Versa" post should be noted. It could be argued that that suggests that Demelain did not know that underlings knew their leaders.


Before I vote for Demelain, does someone else need to vote first or something else in order to give extra votes to the lynch? Because we'll probably end up needing them to make this go through today.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 05:06 PM

View PostFanderay, on 18 April 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

Before I vote for Demelain, does someone else need to vote first or something else in order to give extra votes to the lynch? Because we'll probably end up needing them to make this go through today.


I don't know, does someone else need to vote first? Why do you think someone would?

There is a chance the capitalisation is a result of someone's phone. That both alts do it is therefore likely to imply a link if that assumption is taken

Some capitalisations are ones I do myself - Day when talking about the game Day for instance

Since Silanah isn't looking to gain any traction, I'm fine with a Demelain vote too

I would still prefer to lynch someone who is adding nothing to the game but for now

Remove Vote

Vote Demelain


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Posted 18 April 2016 - 06:39 PM

It is Day 6. 15 hours and 33 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Silanah, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Silanah ( Kessobahn )
2 Votes for Ultama ( Fener, Demelain )
2 Votes for Fener ( Ultama, Eloth )
1 Vote for Demelain ( Aranatha )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Silanah
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:35 PM

View PostAranatha, on 18 April 2016 - 05:06 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 18 April 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

Before I vote for Demelain, does someone else need to vote first or something else in order to give extra votes to the lynch? Because we'll probably end up needing them to make this go through today.


I don't know, does someone else need to vote first? Why do you think someone would?

There is a chance the capitalisation is a result of someone's phone. That both alts do it is therefore likely to imply a link if that assumption is taken

Some capitalisations are ones I do myself - Day when talking about the game Day for instance

Since Silanah isn't looking to gain any traction, I'm fine with a Demelain vote too

I would still prefer to lynch someone who is adding nothing to the game but for now

Remove Vote

Vote Demelain





Hey I never claimed it was a foolproof assesment, just what I found similar. So I'm not sure what the attitude is about. Of course it could be just a coincidence. I would urge other non-Fifth members to try and do something similar, see if they found something I missed that might make another alt more likely to also be controlled by the same person as Mockra was.

In any case,

Vote Demelain

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:35 PM

And where is everyone today?

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:45 PM

It is Day 6. 14 hours and 28 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Silanah, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Silanah ( Kessobahn )
2 Votes for Ultama ( Fener, Demelain )
2 Votes for Fener ( Ultama, Eloth )
2 Votes for Demelain ( Aranatha, Fanderay )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Silanah
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 08:34 PM

Who was it that thought Bek Okhan was a pet/puppet alt?

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:35 PM

View PostFener, on 18 April 2016 - 08:34 PM, said:

Who was it that thought Bek Okhan was a pet/puppet alt?



Someone did say that early on, yeah. Was it Togg? But I think they were linking them to Monok. I'm taking this all from hazy memory, I haven't actually checked.


That is not exactly what I would call a watertight case, Fandy. Kudos for putting the effort in, but at the moment you appear to just be splitting the votes. I'll think on it.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 11:56 PM

No clear train today I see.

I almost want to vote Silanah just to keep the votes even.

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 05:14 AM

Here, but I have nothing to add.

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 05:55 AM

View PostEloth, on 19 April 2016 - 05:14 AM, said:

Here, but I have nothing to add.


How about an opinion on any of the lynch targets? Maybe even vote for one of them? You know, for a lynch

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 06:44 AM

View PostAranatha, on 19 April 2016 - 05:55 AM, said:

View PostEloth, on 19 April 2016 - 05:14 AM, said:

Here, but I have nothing to add.


How about an opinion on any of the lynch targets? Maybe even vote for one of them? You know, for a lynch


Ahh sorry, you're already on one of them. Been a long day

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