[Eloth]

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:

is there any clarifying info that could be provided at this time

Yes but I don't think it would be worth providing it.

The issue is that the game is very invidualistic. Everyone sort of needs to come to their own conclusions. But my conclusion is totally the best one so you know.

[Eloth]

Also, Gait, bear in mind that if you aren't on Denul's team (given that he's been voting you for half of the game, it seems plausible to me at least that Denul believes he isn't on yours) then we are likely to need your vote to lynch him.

[Gait]

don't let me influence you

but if I had to answer , Denul - although I won't throw a vote at this time

[Gait]

x-post

[Gait]

Eloth, on 25 February 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:

is there any clarifying info that could be provided at this time

Yes but I don't think it would be worth providing it.

The issue is that the game is very invidualistic. Everyone sort of needs to come to their own conclusions. But my conclusion is totally the best one so you know.

so do you have info that could be used against you? it may not matter in another day

[Telas]

Hrrrm.

[Telas]

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:

Eloth, on 25 February 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:

is there any clarifying info that could be provided at this time

Yes but I don't think it would be worth providing it.

The issue is that the game is very invidualistic. Everyone sort of needs to come to their own conclusions. But my conclusion is totally the best one so you know.

so do you have info that could be used against you? it may not matter in another day

Huh? Everybody has information that could be used against them... like their faction. But we can't talk about our factions.

[Eloth]

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:

Eloth, on 25 February 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:

Gait, on 25 February 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:

is there any clarifying info that could be provided at this time

Yes but I don't think it would be worth providing it.

The issue is that the game is very invidualistic. Everyone sort of needs to come to their own conclusions. But my conclusion is totally the best one so you know.

so do you have info that could be used against you? it may not matter in another day

It's more that it's info that could be used against my team, not only me. So if I'm wrong about Denul, that might make it worse of a screw up.

[Eloth]

There's also the issue Telas raises about how much you can really reveal within the rules. If I explained my thought processes fully, it would imply my own faction, and I'm not sure where the line is with that.

[Denul]

Eloth you're the only person I know is on my team. If you look through the entire game, except day one were I voted Fanderay and stuck with him, I've voted where you've voted after you've voted.

I've only voted Gait because I didn't like his play.

I was 50/50 over Korlat and Telas. Thinking both could be on my team at various stages.

That left Gait as a definite Takeda. I could be wrong but I don't see how that is possible.

[Denul]

Eloth, on 09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Denul, on 09 February 2016 - 05:06 AM, said:

I think I have a good grasp of the higher content people. I wouldn't want to get later into endgame with a player who has spouted RL nonsense throughout the game and has ridden our coattails and tolerance throughout.

In M&P I would be more inclined to agree. However, the information we'll have later is dependant on what happens now. There won't magically be more information just because it's the endgame. Sure I don't have much read on OE or Gait... or a ton of other people really -- because we've had easy hop on low-information lynches that haven't committed people much either way. If we keeping coasting through the game with easy lynches, I don't see how that improves. At some point, someone has to make something happen, and try to do something that isn't just arbitrary. If you've got a good grasp on the higher content people, why aren't you pushing someone you think isn't on your team?

See here. I didn't need to push if I was a follower.

What irked me about Gait was everyday he posted an anti modkill post and that's it. No help towards lynch at all. Smacked of a player more interested in night actions.

[Eloth]

Hmm,

remove vote

For just now.

[Telas]

Denul, on 25 February 2016 - 12:58 AM, said:

Eloth you're the only person I know is on my team. If you look through the entire game, except day one were I voted Fanderay and stuck with him, I've voted where you've voted after you've voted.

I've only voted Gait because I didn't like his play.

I was 50/50 over Korlat and Telas. Thinking both could be on my team at various stages.

That left Gait as a definite Takeda. I could be wrong but I don't see how that is possible.

Why is this?

[Denul]

I've just changed the baby. I'm going back to sleep. I know we can't say who we are but we can say who we know. That may help identify our other faction member. Looking back to earlier in the game, Telas seems to buddy up to you. That may mean he knows who you are and leaves Korlat/Gait as same faction.

[Eloth]

My issue here is that it's kind of an easy thing to claim.

Regarding following me on voting, is that really that much of a pattern? I've been voting pretty early and it's not like there have been tons of options.

Blah, need to consider.

[Telas]

Telas, on 25 February 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

Denul, on 25 February 2016 - 12:58 AM, said:

Eloth you're the only person I know is on my team. If you look through the entire game, except day one were I voted Fanderay and stuck with him, I've voted where you've voted after you've voted.

I've only voted Gait because I didn't like his play.

I was 50/50 over Korlat and Telas. Thinking both could be on my team at various stages.

That left Gait as a definite Takeda. I could be wrong but I don't see how that is possible.

Why is this?

In addition, how do you know Eloth is on your team?

[Telas]

Denul, on 25 February 2016 - 01:10 AM, said:

I've just changed the baby. I'm going back to sleep. I know we can't say who we are but we can say who we know. That may help identify our other faction member. Looking back to earlier in the game, Telas seems to buddy up to you. That may mean he knows who you are and leaves Korlat/Gait as same faction.

I haven't buddied up to anybody, it's why you can't place me.

Yay me!

[Eloth]

Denul, if you knew I was on your team, why the persistent push for Gait, given that I stated I thought it was a bad lynch?

[Telas]

Eloth, on 25 February 2016 - 01:12 AM, said:

Denul, if you knew I was on your team, why the persistent push for Gait, given that I stated I thought it was a bad lynch?

Ding ding ding.

[Eloth]

Denul, on 25 February 2016 - 01:03 AM, said:

Eloth, on 09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Denul, on 09 February 2016 - 05:06 AM, said:

I think I have a good grasp of the higher content people. I wouldn't want to get later into endgame with a player who has spouted RL nonsense throughout the game and has ridden our coattails and tolerance throughout.

In M&P I would be more inclined to agree. However, the information we'll have later is dependant on what happens now. There won't magically be more information just because it's the endgame. Sure I don't have much read on OE or Gait... or a ton of other people really -- because we've had easy hop on low-information lynches that haven't committed people much either way. If we keeping coasting through the game with easy lynches, I don't see how that improves. At some point, someone has to make something happen, and try to do something that isn't just arbitrary. If you've got a good grasp on the higher content people, why aren't you pushing someone you think isn't on your team?

See here. I didn't need to push if I was a follower.

As a mafia game theory side note, followers should absolutely be the people pushing.