[Kadagar Fant]

I'll be popping in and out for a bit, depending on how busy I get at work.

I still want to take another look at Emurlahn, but that's a bit tricky from my phone.

[Telas]

I'm pretty sure you are just making this up as we go along, Shin.

[Shadow]

off to bed. Ill be back tomorrow evening after work

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 16 February 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure you are just making this up as we go along, Shin.

Why?

[Path-Shaper]

This is the last day of battle before the first lull (Day 6). NA's will proceed as normal for Night 5.

[Grasp]

Well, now that the resolve is out of the way...

[Denul]

Grasp, on 10 February 2016 - 11:02 PM, said:

Just popping in for a second to prevent modkill. I am not going to vote for a lynch until battle days are over. I have very little clue who is actually on my side and do not care to further weaken my team by accidentally lynching a member until there really isnt anything going on. Yes I know this is a shitty strategy but it is currently the safest for me as I have even less time than I thought to contribute to the thread.

Are you still going to abstain until next game day or do you feel you have a better understanding of sides?

[Grasp]

I think I have an idea or two. But I am debating on whether or not I am actually going to vote. So far NA's have taken out 1 on each side at night. Which has kept things fairly even. So if the lynch goes wrong going into the lull that gives the other faction a distinct advantage in a period where lynches will definitely happen.

[Merrid]

Grasp, on 16 February 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

I think I have an idea or two. But I am debating on whether or not I am actually going to vote. So far NA's have taken out 1 on each side at night. Which has kept things fairly even. So if the lynch goes wrong going into the lull that gives the other faction a distinct advantage in a period where lynches will definitely happen.

What does that mean?

[Grasp]

Merrid, on 16 February 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

Grasp, on 16 February 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

I think I have an idea or two. But I am debating on whether or not I am actually going to vote. So far NA's have taken out 1 on each side at night. Which has kept things fairly even. So if the lynch goes wrong going into the lull that gives the other faction a distinct advantage in a period where lynches will definitely happen.

What does that mean?

I could have phrased that differently, but what I meant was that after the battle phase a lynch is the most likely way to progress the game. During the battle phase multiple NA's have been flying around so lynching wasnt as important. If I take the meaning of "lull" literally, which may be a mistake, then I am guessing that NA's will be reduced and lynches will be necessary to get anything done.

[Merrid]

Grasp, on 16 February 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

Merrid, on 16 February 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

Grasp, on 16 February 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

I think I have an idea or two. But I am debating on whether or not I am actually going to vote. So far NA's have taken out 1 on each side at night. Which has kept things fairly even. So if the lynch goes wrong going into the lull that gives the other faction a distinct advantage in a period where lynches will definitely happen.

What does that mean?

I could have phrased that differently, but what I meant was that after the battle phase a lynch is the most likely way to progress the game. During the battle phase multiple NA's have been flying around so lynching wasnt as important. If I take the meaning of "lull" literally, which may be a mistake, then I am guessing that NA's will be reduced and lynches will be necessary to get anything done.

That is not really what Shin said, though. He just said that abilities might change between phases.

Omtose, on 09 February 2016 - 05:34 AM, said:

What I find interesting so far is that Denesmet and Shadow both seem to think that Grasp and I voted early on Hanas to steer things away from KF, when in fact we were the last votes and I explicitly said I was withholding a vote so that I could wait for additional developments

Which is interesting combined with the above - Omtose goes out of his way to include you, Grasp. Which is interesting if we go back to day 1.
To quote denul's earlier work:

Denul, on 04 February 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Anomandaris was the first person to vote for Fanderay. So the "pile on" as you call it Hanas happened from there. This is how the votes went down.

If anything, a "pile-on" would be Fanderay, Emurlahn and Hanas after the Eloth vote of Anomandaris.

Eloth > Anomandaris
Fanderay > Anomandaris
Emurlahn > Anomandaris
Hanas > Anomandaris

Merrid halts progress

Anomandaris > Fanderay
Kadagar Fant > Fanderay

The next person to vote after Kadagar is Merrid, who does not vote for Fanderay.

Merrid > Anomandaris

Grasp > Fanderay

Denul > Fanderay

Korlat > Hanas

Shadow > Fanderay

Emurlahn remove

Denesmet > Fanderay

Omtose > Fanderay

Hanas > remove vote

Hanas > Fanderay

Korlat > remove vote

Korlat > Fanderay

Korlat > remove vote

Korlat > Fanderay

Eloth > Korlat

Eloth > Remove vote

Eloth > Fanderay

Aparal Forge > Fanderay


I think what Hanas is suggesting that Kadagar could be a leader and that his minions followed, but that would just lead a trail right back to the leader. You could look at the Fanderay lynch as a swing away from Ano, and therefore Ano could be a leader, with Hanas' logic.

So i'm voting for Hanas, purely because of his "night action" and because he seems to have more information than the rest of us.

Now, Anomandaris turned out Uesugi, and your vote was followed by a full train on Fanderay. Maybe not conclusive evidence as to your clan alignment, but by the time Hanas on day 2 was lynched, it was clear he was Takeda - making you and Omtose very likely Uesugi by applying the last couple of votes instead of diving the responsibility to lynch him .

Day 3 we have a no-lynch on Gait, and Denesmet dying at night. We're a day in the battle then. Day 4 we have the Ultama lynch and your curious 'don't vote during battle' bit, which could be read as a warning to the Uesugi team, perhaps - the clan in the lead during that stage. What little I have seen of the battle mechanic, means that numerical superiority is likely a factor in creating a higher force count at a location - leader warning subordinates to not squander the advantage?

[Eloth]

Just stopping by, will hopefully have more time to post later.

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2016 - 11:59 AM, said:

Telas, on 16 February 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure you are just making this up as we go along, Shin.

Why?

Because I have top-secret photos of you just rolling dice and giggling like a mad-man while doing night stuff.

Also, because I have no idea how your mechanics are working and it's easier to just claim you are making it up.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 16 February 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

Because I have top-secret photos of you just rolling dice and giggling like a mad-man while doing night stuff.

How'd you get those?!!?

[Denul]

Shadow, on 11 February 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

So options are either vote a non-entity

or

Vote a more established player

That last lynch gave quite a bit of information


Ima park this here, unless someone higher on my shit list says something interesting
vote gait

Kadagar Fant, on 11 February 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:

Back on topic, I don't really have anything to add to the current lynch train. I'm happy to vote Ultama, but I don't think it needs to be now.

I will say, this post stood out to me like a sore thumb:

Emurlahn, on 10 February 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

only did a really quick read through

I see pressuring Gait didn't give us any info afaik

remove vote


I don't have a case so with Ultama being at L-2 you won't need my vote today

this is moving really slow(I'm not certainly helping)

I don't really like Ult saying their name was mentioned, the names mentioned there have high ranks. And I would need a reread to sort my thoughts about them and people voting

I should have more time tommorow

This is a long, waffly way of saying nothing. Ultama's at L-2 with sixteen hours left in the day, but it's going really slowly? Vote removal, but without a vote having been placed?

I think this will merit a closer look tomorrow.

Emur's been like that the entire game i think i pointed it out earlier in the thread.

Emurlahn, on 11 February 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 February 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

I've got a pretty good idea on what's happening on thread. I'm wondering how much it actually plays into the scenes though. If we lynch a player, do his forces then disappear from whatever map Shin has drawn up? Thus, we have to tactically identify where we are on the map, where our teammates and enemies are, and then somehow manage to turn that into a useful lynch for our team.... This doesn't really seem like a faction game other than there are teams.

Seems like a stalemate now unless someone votes for their own team members on accident and we manage a lynch that way.

Which is still quite likely I'd say, I'm ceratinly not confident with people here, lot of them are still question marks for me and last lynch left some confusion in me too, I'm personally not really reluctant to vote those as not doing so would be kinda lame for me...

Trying to sort my mind after Ultama lynch. Also regarding to Telas's post about tactics.


vote Omtose

About the last day or when I posted that, I thought we have roughly 2 hours to timeout. I was really in rush, must've terribly misread soemthing.

He's been fixated on omtose for sometime if im not mistaken

vote gait

[Kadagar Fant]

Denul, on 17 February 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

Shadow, on 11 February 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

So options are either vote a non-entity

or

Vote a more established player

That last lynch gave quite a bit of information


Ima park this here, unless someone higher on my shit list says something interesting
vote gait

Kadagar Fant, on 11 February 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:

Back on topic, I don't really have anything to add to the current lynch train. I'm happy to vote Ultama, but I don't think it needs to be now.

I will say, this post stood out to me like a sore thumb:

Emurlahn, on 10 February 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

only did a really quick read through

I see pressuring Gait didn't give us any info afaik

remove vote


I don't have a case so with Ultama being at L-2 you won't need my vote today

this is moving really slow(I'm not certainly helping)

I don't really like Ult saying their name was mentioned, the names mentioned there have high ranks. And I would need a reread to sort my thoughts about them and people voting

I should have more time tommorow

This is a long, waffly way of saying nothing. Ultama's at L-2 with sixteen hours left in the day, but it's going really slowly? Vote removal, but without a vote having been placed?

I think this will merit a closer look tomorrow.

Emur's been like that the entire game i think i pointed it out earlier in the thread.

Emurlahn, on 11 February 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 February 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

I've got a pretty good idea on what's happening on thread. I'm wondering how much it actually plays into the scenes though. If we lynch a player, do his forces then disappear from whatever map Shin has drawn up? Thus, we have to tactically identify where we are on the map, where our teammates and enemies are, and then somehow manage to turn that into a useful lynch for our team.... This doesn't really seem like a faction game other than there are teams.

Seems like a stalemate now unless someone votes for their own team members on accident and we manage a lynch that way.

Which is still quite likely I'd say, I'm ceratinly not confident with people here, lot of them are still question marks for me and last lynch left some confusion in me too, I'm personally not really reluctant to vote those as not doing so would be kinda lame for me...

Trying to sort my mind after Ultama lynch. Also regarding to Telas's post about tactics.


vote Omtose

About the last day or when I posted that, I thought we have roughly 2 hours to timeout. I was really in rush, must've terribly misread soemthing.

He's been fixated on omtose for sometime if im not mistaken

vote gait

I'm not disagreeing with your vote choice, but is there a reason you chose to include this quote?

[Telas]

Don't think Denul cares as I believe this is a continued vote? But, could have just voted if he was going to not repeat the "case."

[Shadow]

vote gait

[Denul]

Kadagar Fant, on 17 February 2016 - 01:36 AM, said:

Denul, on 17 February 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

Shadow, on 11 February 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

So options are either vote a non-entity

or

Vote a more established player

That last lynch gave quite a bit of information


Ima park this here, unless someone higher on my shit list says something interesting
vote gait

Kadagar Fant, on 11 February 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:

Back on topic, I don't really have anything to add to the current lynch train. I'm happy to vote Ultama, but I don't think it needs to be now.

I will say, this post stood out to me like a sore thumb:

Emurlahn, on 10 February 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

only did a really quick read through

I see pressuring Gait didn't give us any info afaik

remove vote


I don't have a case so with Ultama being at L-2 you won't need my vote today

this is moving really slow(I'm not certainly helping)

I don't really like Ult saying their name was mentioned, the names mentioned there have high ranks. And I would need a reread to sort my thoughts about them and people voting

I should have more time tommorow

This is a long, waffly way of saying nothing. Ultama's at L-2 with sixteen hours left in the day, but it's going really slowly? Vote removal, but without a vote having been placed?

I think this will merit a closer look tomorrow.

Emur's been like that the entire game i think i pointed it out earlier in the thread.

Emurlahn, on 11 February 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 February 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

I've got a pretty good idea on what's happening on thread. I'm wondering how much it actually plays into the scenes though. If we lynch a player, do his forces then disappear from whatever map Shin has drawn up? Thus, we have to tactically identify where we are on the map, where our teammates and enemies are, and then somehow manage to turn that into a useful lynch for our team.... This doesn't really seem like a faction game other than there are teams.

Seems like a stalemate now unless someone votes for their own team members on accident and we manage a lynch that way.

Which is still quite likely I'd say, I'm ceratinly not confident with people here, lot of them are still question marks for me and last lynch left some confusion in me too, I'm personally not really reluctant to vote those as not doing so would be kinda lame for me...

Trying to sort my mind after Ultama lynch. Also regarding to Telas's post about tactics.


vote Omtose

About the last day or when I posted that, I thought we have roughly 2 hours to timeout. I was really in rush, must've terribly misread soemthing.

He's been fixated on omtose for sometime if im not mistaken

vote gait

I'm not disagreeing with your vote choice, but is there a reason you chose to include this quote?

I wrote a paragraph. Don't know where its gone

[Denul]

Quote

It is Day 5, 36 hours are left in the day.

12 Players still alive: Denul, Eloth, Emurlahn, Gait, Grasp, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Shadow, Telas

How is Olar still playing this game? At least Gait is trolling. Olar is way past modkill yet still alive. Even if that's not the case. 180 hours and only 2 posts. More than that really, but I'm just going off 5 days. Fuck that.