[Ultama]

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

[Shadow]

With SK that probably only has to be here for 8 nights to win, we really have to lynch.

Saying opposite makes you quite suspicious, which is enough for me in this phase to vote

Vote Silanah

[Tholen]

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

You're right, we rarely actually hit scum on a Day 1 lynch, but that's not what I'm talking about.

By not lynching on Day 1, we allow space for the killers to hide. By lynching, we require people to respond, we require people to react, and we require people to actually do something, which only benefits town. The more we force people to participate, the less space the killers have to hide. It's fucking basic Mafia.

No lynches on Day 1 only benefits scum, always. A good townie's job is to die, if necessary, in order to give their fellow townies information to help find scum. Anyone who resists that is likely scum trying to get people to look elsewhere.

vote Silanah

[Tholen]

Dear Lord, that was a quick pile on...

remove vote

[Liosan]

We still have two no-shows - Karosis and Grasp.

I would like to hear from them before voting for a lynch

[Silanah]

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

Really? could have sworn that d1 lynch on emularhn gave us dick all in terms of usable information to win that game, (the one two games ago).

As for every game ever benifiting from d1 lynches, i'd disagree. Given that we're playing with more than the usual amount of unknowns (several different VC exist, unknown amount of scum and new abilities) I think it's safe to say we can't make the same assumptions we always do.

[Tholen]

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

Really? could have sworn that d1 lynch on emularhn gave us dick all in terms of usable information to win that game, (the one two games ago).

As for every game ever benifiting from d1 lynches, i'd disagree. Given that we're playing with more than the usual amount of unknowns (several different VC exist, unknown amount of scum and new abilities) I think it's safe to say we can't make the same assumptions we always do.

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

[Emurlahn]

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

[Eloth]

Liosan, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

We still have two no-shows - Karosis and Grasp.

I would like to hear from them before voting for a lynch

Karosis is still on page one looking at the dragon porn. Think they have one post..

[Silanah]

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

Liosan, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

We still have two no-shows - Karosis and Grasp.

I would like to hear from them before voting for a lynch

Karosis is still on page one looking at the dragon porn. Think they have one post..

karosis one post, same as anomandaris

[Eloth]

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Either way, what a boring fucking game if we all sit around holding our junk instead of playing the game and trying to lynch scum...I'm pro-lynching

[Tholen]

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...


And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

[Liosan]

Judging from the OP the game may not necessarily end with the Killer reaching his 4 kills quota.

I mean we have Salvadorians, Mafia, Somebody who is hitting both, and cops(good and bad)

[Shadow]

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

You do realise what have you written?

[Tholen]

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

You do realise what have you written?

Oh, sorry, lemme pull the next couple of fucking sentences from Tapper's post:

Quote

The truth of the matter is that right until the end-game, both teams benefit from reducing the amount of players left in the game for a multitude of reasons.

Jesus... The fact that I even have to argue about this is ridiculous.

[Ultama]

Liosan, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

We still have two no-shows - Karosis and Grasp.

I would like to hear from them before voting for a lynch

I looked earlier, it's only Grasp who's no showed.

[Ultama]

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

Really? could have sworn that d1 lynch on emularhn gave us dick all in terms of usable information to win that game, (the one two games ago).

As for every game ever benifiting from d1 lynches, i'd disagree. Given that we're playing with more than the usual amount of unknowns (several different VC exist, unknown amount of scum and new abilities) I think it's safe to say we can't make the same assumptions we always do.

The one assumption we can make is town will lose if they do. Not. Lynch.

That lynch of Emurlahn and subsequent fixation of Liosan by more than a couple of players held a lot of clues. Town didn't pick up on them so well but they were there. Hindsight is a bitch but 3 players knew who the killers were and picked up on it. That was all through that day one.

[Ultama]

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...


And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

Hey he got 3 successive votes for his comments. You removed though, maybe it's worth putting it back on if he's adamant.

[Shadow]

Are you blind?

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!

[Ultama]

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

You do realise what have you written?

Oh, sorry, lemme pull the next couple of fucking sentences from Tapper's post:

Quote

The truth of the matter is that right until the end-game, both teams benefit from reducing the amount of players left in the game for a multitude of reasons.

Jesus... The fact that I even have to argue about this is ridiculous.

What he is highlighting in his post Tholen is you said that D1 lynches ONLY benefit scum.

Yet you are arguing the opposite.

I get what you're saying, d1 lynches are a must. That's playing the game right.