[Ryllandaras]

This is bullshit. It's like you're picking people out of a hat each day.

6 hours to go. Hardly any participation. I'm sure Liosan's main suspect was Aparal. That's 3 days in a row he's followed Monok vote aswel. Day 1 didn't count but day 2 and 3 his votes came after.

Your case for Aparal could be said about Liosan too Karosis And yourself before today.

[Karosis]

Picking out of a hat? We are making educated guesses.

And what are you? His partner or something? Can KF not speak for himself? Maybe he will have an original thought this time around.

[Karosis]

Also, you ugly ass gorilla, where are you? Still looking for that pad and paper? Forgot that you also need a pen to actually drawn anything out?

[Liosan]

Ryllandaras, on 14 October 2015 - 08:15 PM, said:

This is bullshit. It's like you're picking people out of a hat each day.

6 hours to go. Hardly any participation. I'm sure Liosan's main suspect was Aparal. That's 3 days in a row he's followed Monok vote aswel. Day 1 didn't count but day 2 and 3 his votes came after.

Your case for Aparal could be said about Liosan too Karosis And yourself before today.

what? i mean...what the fuck?

i was doing a readup on the thread on day 1 and when i hit "reply" the first preview post is emur revealing healer, which i immediately responded to, posted my shit about fanderay that I had been gathering, and agreed that it was time for the hammer. if i had put my vote in my original post i would have beat monok to the hammer so if you're basing your case on me on a crosspost...uh, come up with something better.

my case for AF does NOT apply to me any way, you fuck. as you told me, go reread the fucking thread. i have been on AF's case a whole lot for being a dumbass, as well as others, including you, ryll. in fact, if you really look at the posts even from today (which i've finally had time to readd), YOUR play looks a lot more like AF's than mine, ryll. big quote blocks that are so obscure that someone actually has to ask you if you have a fucking point.

we are like 2 hours from timeout and no one is here. this is like what happened on day 2 (you'll notice I was around and voted). i can't see how a no-lynch benefits us in any way today. i will be back as soon as I can and def before timeout but i had time to just pull one quote from awhile back that i was replying to AF about his dumb shit:

Liosan, on 08 October 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

have a few minutes to spare -

is this for real? are you seriously voting for me based on absolutely NOTHING except WIFOM? as in, I showed up and commented on a player 6 hours before timeout, that player got NK'd, and somehow that means I'm the killer and I killed them? with NO other logic or reasoning at all? have you ever played fucking mafia?

jesus christ we don't have a chance. go back to quoting massive blocks of text and padding the bottom with empty bullshit and WIFOM, AF. I think you forgot the quotes this time.

my vote isn't coming out of nowhere. RTFT.

[Liosan]

and i'm still the only one here. p-s, might i trouble thee for a vote count and time update?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 1 hours 19 minutes remaining.

There are 8 players left alive: Aparal Forge, Demelain, Karosis, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Ryllandaras

5 votes for lynch, 4 votes for night.

1 vote Liosan: Ryllandaras
2 votes Aparal Forge: Karosis, Liosan



Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Demelain, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose

[Demelain]

Liosan, on 14 October 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:

and i'm still the only one here. p-s, might i trouble thee for a vote count and time update?

No, I'm here now too, I just came home. I'm dragging myself through today's quote jungle to see if there's actually a point behind it all.

[Karosis]

Looks like town don't give a fuck.

[Monok Ochem]

I'm here! Sorry, totally slipped my mind.

[Monok Ochem]

Hmm, just about eveyone has attacked Aparal at one stage or another, so who would be linked with them if they were scum?

[Karosis]

Whoever doesn't vote for him if he turns up scum? Omtose is MIA and will get mod killed, so that takes out one player.

[Karosis]

Also, you make all these quotes against AF and yet don't vote for him...

[Monok Ochem]

Karosis, on 14 October 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:

Whoever doesn't vote for him if he turns up scum? Omtose is MIA and will get mod killed, so that takes out one player.

Not really an answer. Scum have either done a good job distancing or Aparal is town. Omtose and Liosan seem like a partnership, but I think that's too obvious, scum don't normally wade in when their partner's on the line, they watch them hang while tightening the noose.

[Monok Ochem]

Karosis, on 14 October 2015 - 11:24 PM, said:

Also, you make all these quotes against AF and yet don't vote for him...

They weren't initially against anyone, but yeah, a real pattern in Aparal's play came out.

[Demelain]

So, one hour to go, give or take ten minutes.

I can see why people think that AF is just jumping on bandwagons. I don't actually mind people joining in on cases, because, let's face it, to get a lynch people must join in on cases. What's important, though, is how they do it and how often they do it. I think that Monok and others have already pointed out that Aparal seems to do it a lot, basically jumping on suspicions just as they've been posted by other players. How AF does it also concerns me.

Throughout the last two days, D1 WIFOM kept crawling back into focus, prolonging the confusion that Emurlahn sowed with his behaviour on D1. Now, my plan was for today or tomorrow was to go back and analyse which players were keen to perpetuate that confusion, to keep the focus on WIFOM'ing without result and without adding anything new based on behaviour after D1. So, when I went back and looked at how AF jumped on bandwagons, I couldn't help but notice that they usually don't add much to cases, expect adding D1 WIFOM arguments.

Example:

Aparal Forge, on 07 October 2015 - 06:11 AM, said:

Liosan is weird. His case on Fanderay is so flimsy. What easily reads like Day 1 banter turning into a more serious tone with the Emurlahn shitshow seems scummy to him. Trying to distance himself from his NK target?

First, when are D1 cases not flimsy? It's D1. However, what strikes me most is that he makes a NK distancing case. Not only is that incredibly WIFOM, I think that it's highly unlikely that NK distancing happens at D1. Also note that he's using the WIFOM against Liosan this time.

He then continues by reiterating the D1 NK WIFOM:

Aparal Forge, on 07 October 2015 - 06:34 AM, said:

So I went back and took a look at Fanderay. He comes off as a serious player who was also bothered by Ryll.

NK to weaken a day 2 case against Ryll?

Now he's taking a different WIFOM take on the NK, what could be the strategy? Also note that he's now using it against another just mentioned player.

Then he reiterates the NK thing a couple of times, actually casting a vote based on it, while also mentioning he likes a case Mockra made (without providing a reason for why he likes that case). However, as soon as I pressure Omtose, they just jump on that, immediately abandoning the NK thing they reiterated over and over again, never mentioning it again like it never existed. Today they just follow the Omtose thing again. So, spreading WIFOM, even after being called out for it, then suddenly abandoning it like it meant nothing as soon as another lynch candidate gets traction.

[Monok Ochem]

Ryll amd Demelain could be partners, there's been some umming and aahing and even a vote, but just as often Dem would come in to defuse suspicion of Ryll.

[Monok Ochem]

Monok Ochem, on 14 October 2015 - 11:26 PM, said:

Ryll amd Demelain could be partners, there's been some umming and aahing and even a vote, but just as often Dem would come in to defuse suspicion of Ryll.

Then again, Dem could still be partners with a fair few

[Demelain]

Scrap that first sentence about the time, that post took me longer than I expected.

[Demelain]

Monok Ochem, on 14 October 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 14 October 2015 - 11:26 PM, said:

Ryll amd Demelain could be partners, there's been some umming and aahing and even a vote, but just as often Dem would come in to defuse suspicion of Ryll.

Then again, Dem could still be partners with a fair few

Hmm, that's basically the definition of a towny ;-)

[Liosan]

dem we have like 20 minutes left, not an hour

also why are you so focused on AF's WIFOM cases? you specifically highlight AF suspecting first me then ryll of being scummy because of pure WIFOM. i already ranted to fuck and back about both of these posts, what are you trying to even say?