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Where does the crippled god come from??

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 10:46 AM

I think that the Chained God is just an ascendant inhabitant of another planet. Just a god of another planet. Wizards summoned him to destroy the monster that is Kallor. When the wizards tried to tempt the Chained God to theire bidding, the Chained god became curious and was tempted, then he was catched and the wizards cast him down on Jacuruku. He then became cripple and mad - evil (or mabey he was on his homeworld already a terrible dark evil goed). When he was cast on Jacaruku, he was almost destroyed. It took a long while for him to gather al his power again. When he got his power back, he became 'chained' by ascendants and their followers. Chained to whatever. Does anyone know?
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Posted 26 July 2005 - 06:25 PM

He was brought through by sorcerers; the priest of the Boar GOd had a vision of it, I think. IT might have been at the same time he had a vision of the Green giants flying towards the 'Malazan' world through space.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 03:36 PM

Yeh, I've had that impression too, that the CG dosent use the traditional warrens or warrens at all. Although, its seems as if he has been using Chaos.
And Chaos may not even be a warren.

Or CHaos could simply be way of describing warren/magic that isnt what the people in malaz world traditionally know.


SImply put there is very little little known on his magic as well, he has had some relation to Chaos it seems, also very little on his original whereabouts.

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 07:50 AM

I think that the Crippled God is said to come from another realm outside of the system of the warrens as defined by K'rul...
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 03:19 PM

Interesting point. But it's most probably through his use of Choas.
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 12:57 AM

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The Great Ravens Do, As they were the maggots that grew from his desecrated flesh or something like that.

Whether or not if he actually does there hasnt been a lot indication so far...

When Quick unleashed hell on him in MoI, he didn't seem to absorb it.
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 10:37 AM

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So am I the only one who thought the Crippled God was Cthulhu?

That would be an... interesting plot twist Posted Image
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 06:09 PM

Cthulhu, created by H. P. Lovecraft. Fairly famous, I'd say -- an early horror writer, still considered worth reading.

Cthulhu was one of the Old Ones. Immortal -- truly immortal -- and vastly powerful, humans are no more than an annoyance to the Old Ones.

But the relevant part is that they come from Elsewhere. Not of this universe.

The similarity to the Chained One / Fallen God pretty much ends there. Posted Image
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 07:23 AM

So am I the only one who thought the Crippled God was Cthulhu?

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:05 AM

Actually I think the Crippled God is the ultimate example of a demon, a powerful being summoned/inveigled from an alien realm by a group of sorcerors – and with disastrous results.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 01:55 AM

Some where in MoI, I think in Krul's Conversation with Envy he describes where he comes from

And im pretty sure it was "an Alien realm".

Whether realm means Warren or World or Dimension we cant say.

But what Krul says there is the best you get in terms of where exactly he comes from (the CG that is). In the whole series, Midnight tides and the Bonehunters dosent give us any info on where he came from either.



There is also Heboric's Hulicination (?) on the Jade statues, that I think does give some info on it as well, Offhand I cant think of exactly what its about. I dont thinks its on the Crippled gods original location, more on the Jade Statues homeplace...

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 02:40 PM

Oh of course, I forgot. Did he by the way, poisened the Wardens with the help of Poliel?
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 09:48 PM

The Great Ravens Do, As they were the maggots that grew from his desecrated flesh or something like that.

Whether or not if he actually does there hasnt been a lot indication so far...

Really, like its been said, there hasnt been a lot indication what his magic is at all really.

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 05:29 PM

Cthulhu? huh?
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 04:43 PM

Well, if u strip down Malazan to its bare roots, its like any other fantasy. Magic VS Anti-Magic. Now I know for a fact, the CG is trying to end magic. Referenced in MoI in that conversation between Rake and Brood, where they discuss him and the possibilities of what might happen if he won. And they said "End of all Magic". So yeah I'm pretty sure CG is out to end magic, wether he himself is anti-magic i'm not sure either.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 06:57 AM

Think he has any relation to the Jade otherworldly creatures that Hebroic encountered?
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:31 AM

Chained to Burn.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 04:19 PM

isn't he anti-magic? He has the ability to absorb magic?
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Dazer:
And Chaos may not even be a warren.

Or CHaos could simply be way of describing warren/magic that isnt what the people in malaz world traditionally know.

how 'bout Chaos=chaos. where as magic is order. keep comming round to that point in all fantasy. chaos (evil) versus order (good).
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 08:23 AM

Undoubtably.

Have a search round, you'll find many a thread on the "Jade Giants" that talk about their relationship to the Crippled godPosted Image
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