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ECLIPSE VI R6: IH, CF, Tatts, D'rek, Tapper, Blend , Gnaw, Twelve, Khell

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:41 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

How many total Tier III hexes can be drawn?


According to the TXT file there are 31 at the moment


There may be 31 tiles but not all of them get used in a game.


I assume the TXT file only has the ones we're using this game, no?





301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
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398

yep. that's all of them.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:41 PM

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


unlikely with only 2 hexes left.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:41 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


unlikely with only 2 hexes left.


I count 4 hexes left?
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:43 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:41 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


unlikely with only 2 hexes left.


I count 4 hexes left?


------
203
201
206
202

4

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discards:

212
209

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:43 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

How many total Tier III hexes can be drawn?


According to the TXT file there are 31 at the moment


There may be 31 tiles but not all of them get used in a game.


I assume the TXT file only has the ones we're using this game, no?


309
395
303
301
398
397
307
310
382
304
312
324
325
319
381
313
320
394
308
322
321
317
393
323
305
315
318
314
306
302
311


These are all the ones that MIGHT get used in the game. Per the rules we can only use 24. Otherwise everyone would explore and turtle and most of the fun is the conflict due to scarcity of resources.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM

Gods, did we screw up again?

I'll update the Tier 3 tiles so there are only 24 tiles (I'll use a list randomizer and then take the first 24 after randomizing the list 10 times).
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?


only 10 placed.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:45 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?


only 10 placed.


So the only ones available are the 2 discarded ones right?
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:46 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?


only 10 placed.


I count 11.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

How many total Tier III hexes can be drawn?


According to the TXT file there are 31 at the moment


There may be 31 tiles but not all of them get used in a game.


I assume the TXT file only has the ones we're using this game, no?


309
395
303
301
398
397
307
310
382
304
312
324
325
319
381
313
320
394
308
322
321
317
393
323
305
315
318
314
306
302
311


These are all the ones that MIGHT get used in the game. Per the rules we can only use 24. Otherwise everyone would explore and turtle and most of the fun is the conflict due to scarcity of resources.




I am ASSUMING that we're using the 'they're all available but we only pick 24 times" method. That's an IH question.

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

@Gnaw - If others want to include the Minions I'm okay with it. You're right that Eridani not being in the game helps a lot in balancing them.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

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There were 31 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

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Timestamp: 2015-02-12 19:45:34 UTC

You have randomized this list 10 times.


Will update the TXT file so that only the first 24 are in it.

Will wait to see what IH says about how we'll deal with the 24 tiles thing then.

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 12 February 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Dang, didn't see the complete map when I decided on orientation. I would have rotated one tic to the left. Can I still do that?


No because my explore came after you got the hex. I orientated it that way to avoid you as much as possible
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:48 PM

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?


only 10 placed.


So the only ones available are the 2 discarded ones right?


oh. yes. You are correct!!!!

There have been 12 tiles picked. the rest are out of the game!
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:48 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

Gods, did we screw up again?

I'll update the Tier 3 tiles so there are only 24 tiles (I'll use a list randomizer and then take the first 24 after randomizing the list 10 times).


No don't do that. We aren't suppose to know which tiles are in the pile and the only way we know how to do that is by thinking everything is in the pile until the last one has been selected. Once 24 have been drawn whether it was placed or discarded the remaining tiles are then removed from the list.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:48 PM

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

Gods, did we screw up again?

I'll update the Tier 3 tiles so there are only 24 tiles (I'll use a list randomizer and then take the first 24 after randomizing the list 10 times).


No don't do that. We aren't suppose to know which tiles are in the pile and the only way we know how to do that is by thinking everything is in the pile until the last one has been selected. Once 24 have been drawn whether it was placed or discarded the remaining tiles are then removed from the list.


Okeydoke then.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:50 PM

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:46 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 12 February 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 12 February 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 12 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Just looked them up. 24 Tier III hexes and we are only suppose to use 12 Tier II hexes. Right now there are already 2 discarded Tier II hexes just in case there are a bunch more that get discarded.


There are 11 placed tiles and 2 discarded Tier 2 tiles, so wouldn't we technically be out of Tier 2 tiles then?


only 10 placed.


I count 11.


Ah, I see where my mistake was, I was counting a Tier 1 card as a Tier 2.

So the only 2 tile left are the ones that were previously discarded?

Do they become available now then?

Should I update the Tier 2 TXT file so that only the two tiles that were discarded are left?
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:50 PM

Blend, the tier II file should only have 209 and 212 in it.

We take the first 12 tiles, whether they're placed or discarded. The discards become the new draw pile.

And the Draco cannot place the hive. So you're in the position of being able to cost D'rek a tier II hex. :D

Or, by not exploring that hex, you can force D'rek into letting you have the hive.


Edit: damn, I'm glad you caught that Twelve. Posted Image

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