The cull of Nobles

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 05:56 PM

Just a question that has occurred as I'm on my long-awaited re-read.

Laseen has, at the time of the Whirlwind rebellion, been culling Nobles from Malazan held territories. This cull is apparently to destabalise newly-conquered areas and has been going on for a while...

So how is the Chain of Dogs so full of nobles?

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 06:49 PM

Traveller, on 12 December 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

She wasn't culling in 7C where she needed as strong a colonial base as possible.

She was culling in Unta because the nobles had grown too powerful, the proles needed to feel better about their shitty lives, and it was an opportunity to eliminate some opposition and liabilities like Felisin and Heboric.

Given time she might have gotten to 7C, but the rebellion fucked that.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 06:51 PM

Promotions for everyone!!! Im sure ambitious familys will of made upward advances in stations with the opportunities that noble culling would bring, could be one way to stimulate economic growth...

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 04:22 AM

It makes perfect sense for Noble families to try and spread out to 7C as fast as possible as well, that way they keep their hold on things like trade and industry. Wasn't 7C very isolated before the Malazan conquest? i could be wrong about that though.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 03:56 PM

Fiddler, on 13 December 2014 - 04:22 AM, said:

Not isolated, just more tribal massacre-y.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:41 PM

Insular would be the more accurate term, I think, but that's true of most locations. But even along the Chain of Dogs we see how not homogenous the regions are.

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:09 AM

that way they keep their hold on things like trade and industry. Wasn't 7C very isolated before the Malazan conquest? i could be wrong about that though. ???

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 08:28 PM

I also kind of read it as a test of Tavore's loyalty to Laseen. Clearly, Tavore must have known that Felisin would be affected by the cull, and Laseen probably took this into consideration when she put the assignment to Tavore.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:39 AM

The empire was already doing noble culls long before Tavore became adjunct though. Remember the GotM prologue?

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:56 PM

Gorefest, on 27 February 2015 - 09:39 AM, said:

The empire was already doing noble culls long before Tavore became adjunct though. Remember the GotM prologue?

GotM prologue cull wasn't directed against nobles, but magic users.

The main reason for the cull was to stop the rise of incompetents in the army due to cronyism, essentially Pormqual and the like.