[Spite]

Ultama, on 17 December 2014 - 04:42 AM, said:

no see it was the guy who PLAYED captain america but in the fantasic four he played like the flash or somethign

Yes, that's what I meant. The guy who plays Captain America (Chris Evans?) was one of the F4 - "Flame on!" dude...uh, flame boy? The Human Torch! Oh man, so lame.

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

Does anyone here NOT think that killing Unalaq will win us the game? Will we lose by default because we killed the dark avatar before he succeeded in turning into it?

The term "raise" is used ubiquitous in virtually any form of media for bringing life some big bad evil entity whether it is literally dead or merely dormant. To say nothing of the fact that the spirit world (at least in the setup) is below the physical, and that this Vaatu thing is imprisoned there.

Much ado about nothing which is why I didn't feel the need to comment to be honest.

Yeah, except this is now the second time you've been called up on using wording/terminology not quite in line with what is commonly known.

[Tholen]

Ultama, on 16 December 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 November 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Will Korra discover that her plan to connect the Spirit Realm to the Physical Realm could have dark consequences? Will the machinations of all the other players in this game get in her way or hinder her? Can Team Avatar pull together to defeat the Dark Avatar?

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 10 December 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

With Varrick dead, my personal VC and ability are gone. I don't see any particular downside for town to doing this so I'm Asami.

Korbas, can you (if your allowed) quote you Victory Conditions and any specific abilities connected to Varrick? Maybe it will help us.

I had to be on the same tile with him and use a specialized ability to convince him to make a deal to save Future Industries.
General VC is the Dark Avatar must be deceased.

I asked PS whether Varrick was town or scum. He told me that the information on the thread was all we were going to get. One of the independent roles maybe?

Tennes, on 12 December 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 12 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 December 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

The Northern Spirit Portal is now open. Harmonic Convergence has begun.It is now Day 3. 36 hours remaining.13 players still alive: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara7 votes for a lynch; 7 votes to go Night.13 players not voted: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, VenesaraWeekend freeze will start when there are 12 hours remaining in Day 3. Any votes placed over the weekend will count.

So there was no night kill yet again. Or am I missing it? This either means that the deaths will =start right now as the "Harmonic Convergence has begun" or because whoever is scum has not gave in any orders, maybe because they didn't have the time? Maybe but doesn't seem all too possible.

At the moment I am thinking its because of one of 2 reasons;

1. That there are location requirments (in the same zone or adjacent or something?) for scum using their NK and they haven't got lucky yet or
2. That the scums actual goal is simply to get into position to raise the dark avatar and we have to find and catch them before then.

Pretty sure that the chances of scum not submitting actions for full 2 days in a row is probably nil Even a low poster if they saw they got scum would take the time necessary to try and screw people

Here's what I don't like about this from Tennes. Korbas's claim for VCs are a dead Dark Avatar, which lines up with the OP. Then Tennes goes and says maybe town's goal is to prevent scum from raising the Dark Avatar?? That sounds very off to me. It makes me wish we had a Tennes lynch going, actually.

See to me the Dark Avatar does not yet exist, but Unalaq is trying to become him. So if we wiped out Unalaq then the Dark Avatar cannot exist? This is what I think he is getting at?

[Tennes]

Spite, on 17 December 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Ultama, on 17 December 2014 - 04:42 AM, said:

no see it was the guy who PLAYED captain america but in the fantasic four he played like the flash or somethign

Yes, that's what I meant. The guy who plays Captain America (Chris Evans?) was one of the F4 - "Flame on!" dude...uh, flame boy? The Human Torch! Oh man, so lame.

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

Does anyone here NOT think that killing Unalaq will win us the game? Will we lose by default because we killed the dark avatar before he succeeded in turning into it?

The term "raise" is used ubiquitous in virtually any form of media for bringing life some big bad evil entity whether it is literally dead or merely dormant. To say nothing of the fact that the spirit world (at least in the setup) is below the physical, and that this Vaatu thing is imprisoned there.

Much ado about nothing which is why I didn't feel the need to comment to be honest.

Yeah, except this is now the second time you've been called up on using wording/terminology not quite in line with what is commonly known.

Not going to apologise for using that word, "raising evil spirits" is an incredibly common phrase, and if you just said the word "raise" to me, my mind would immediately go to undead/demons/spirits/old gods that sort of thing. It isn't exactly used for a lot of other stuff, and Vaatu is in the bloody spirit realm. I wonder why I said raise when someone is trying to "activate" or "turn on" or "merge with" or whatever phrase you like better, an evil spirit

[Tennes]

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Ultama, on 16 December 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 November 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Will Korra discover that her plan to connect the Spirit Realm to the Physical Realm could have dark consequences? Will the machinations of all the other players in this game get in her way or hinder her? Can Team Avatar pull together to defeat the Dark Avatar?

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 10 December 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

With Varrick dead, my personal VC and ability are gone. I don't see any particular downside for town to doing this so I'm Asami.

Korbas, can you (if your allowed) quote you Victory Conditions and any specific abilities connected to Varrick? Maybe it will help us.

I had to be on the same tile with him and use a specialized ability to convince him to make a deal to save Future Industries.
General VC is the Dark Avatar must be deceased.

I asked PS whether Varrick was town or scum. He told me that the information on the thread was all we were going to get. One of the independent roles maybe?

Tennes, on 12 December 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 12 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 December 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

The Northern Spirit Portal is now open. Harmonic Convergence has begun.It is now Day 3. 36 hours remaining.13 players still alive: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara7 votes for a lynch; 7 votes to go Night.13 players not voted: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, VenesaraWeekend freeze will start when there are 12 hours remaining in Day 3. Any votes placed over the weekend will count.

So there was no night kill yet again. Or am I missing it? This either means that the deaths will =start right now as the "Harmonic Convergence has begun" or because whoever is scum has not gave in any orders, maybe because they didn't have the time? Maybe but doesn't seem all too possible.

At the moment I am thinking its because of one of 2 reasons;

1. That there are location requirments (in the same zone or adjacent or something?) for scum using their NK and they haven't got lucky yet or
2. That the scums actual goal is simply to get into position to raise the dark avatar and we have to find and catch them before then.

Pretty sure that the chances of scum not submitting actions for full 2 days in a row is probably nil Even a low poster if they saw they got scum would take the time necessary to try and screw people

Here's what I don't like about this from Tennes. Korbas's claim for VCs are a dead Dark Avatar, which lines up with the OP. Then Tennes goes and says maybe town's goal is to prevent scum from raising the Dark Avatar?? That sounds very off to me. It makes me wish we had a Tennes lynch going, actually.

See to me the Dark Avatar does not yet exist, but Unalaq is trying to become him. So if we wiped out Unalaq then the Dark Avatar cannot exist? This is what I think he is getting at?

Pretty much yeah. We know for a fact that the dark avatar didn't exist at the start of the game, and it is HIGHLY unlikely they do at the moment unless they got lucky with the Spirit of Iroh visiting the southern spirit portal the day after it opoened. Can anyone confirm/deny that this happened? If you were in the southern portal ASAP and haven't been able to choose a destination yet then we know that the dark avatar does STILL not exist. So what we have at the moment are the thee scum below (according to Tholen at any rate, in his post here: http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1164882

Quote

Unalaq - Korra's uncle, Chief of the Northern Water Tribe, waterbender
Eska - Unalaq's daughter, waterbender
Desna - Unalaq's son, waterbender

So if we manage to lynch/kill/screw with these people enough before they reach the tree then we can pre-empt the dark avatar from even coming into the game.

[Venesara]

Well, let me try something then. I am Ikki and my only goals are to survive and kill the Dark Avatar. Now, if anyone else wants to claim that name, you have a conundrum, but one that leads us to a 50:50 choice between myself and the contender. The Ikki role is not really all that useful of a role, so I have no compunction giving myself up as a fishing expedition for scum volunteers (volunteering by claiming to be me). I will hold off on revealing my power until (and if) we have a spitting match.

[Venesara]

My logic is that if no one else steps forward with this unimportant role, you have yourselves yet another Korbas, a PI that will help you narrow down the field. I think it is pretty clear (when you look at your own roles) that we have all 15 player identities in the OP, and I like the theory that this game is 3 scum vs town and 2 independents.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 4. There are 3 hours 56 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Ultama, Venesara

7 votes for a lynch; 6 votes to go Night.

1 vote Tennes: Venesara
3 votes Venesara: Tennes, Silanah, Spite


8 players not voted: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Sorrit, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Ultama

[Spite]

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 01:12 PM, said:

Pretty much yeah. We know for a fact that the dark avatar didn't exist at the start of the game, and it is HIGHLY unlikely they do at the moment unless they got lucky with the Spirit of Iroh visiting the southern spirit portal the day after it opoened. Can anyone confirm/deny that this happened? If you were in the southern portal ASAP and haven't been able to choose a destination yet then we know that the dark avatar does STILL not exist. So what we have at the moment are the thee scum below (according to Tholen at any rate, in his post here: http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1164882

Explain to me what this is about please. I get that you need Iroh to travel about places in the spirit realm, but this also seems to suggest that you know more about how the Dark Avatar is made.


Remove Vote

from Venesara for now, after their reveal.

[Spite]

The thing I would say about Venesara's reveal is that Ikki - from reading the wiki - just seem like a bit too much of a minor character, i.e. one that could possibly be safely picked assuming that the role would not be in the game.

[Korbas]

Damn. Lots of info to digest.

At 5 hours Venesara was the only lynch candidate and claims survivor role? I don't think so.



Vote Venesara

[Korbas]

Spite, on 17 December 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

The thing I would say about Venesara's reveal is that Ikki - from reading the wiki - just seem like a bit too much of a minor character, i.e. one that could possibly be safely picked assuming that the role would not be in the game.

It's also quite convenient.

and now 3 hours to go.


But I really want to here from Tennes about that info he suddenly has.

[Korbas]

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 01:12 PM, said:

Pretty much yeah. We know for a fact that the dark avatar didn't exist at the start of the game, and it is HIGHLY unlikely they do at the moment unless they got lucky with the Spirit of Iroh visiting the southern spirit portal the day after it opoened. Can anyone confirm/deny that this happened? If you were in the southern portal ASAP and haven't been able to choose a destination yet then we know that the dark avatar does STILL not exist. So what we have at the moment are the thee scum below (according to Tholen at any rate, in his post here: http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1164882

huh?

[Tholen]

I see both your points regarding Tennes and Venesara.

I could vote either, preferably Tennes but now time is running out. If we get the numbers I'd change to Tennes but for now I'll add my vote

Vote Venesara

[Tennes]

Path-Shaper, on 18 November 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Six months after the defeat of Amon and the Equalists, Korra has finally mastered the art of airbending. Mako has joined the Republic City Police Force, Bolin is trying, unsuccessfully, to keep the Fire Ferrets pro-bending team alive, and Asami Sato is struggling to keep her father’s company, Future Industries, intact after her father’s humiliating betrayal. With Tenzin, the four young members of Team Avatar visit Korra’s and Tenzin’s family in the Southern Water Tribe for the Glacier Spirits Festival on the winter solstice. The celebration is attacked by an angry dark spirit, but Unalaq, Korra’s uncle and the Chief of the Northern and Southern Water Tribes, repels it with his waterbending. He has displayed an ability to communicate with spirits that Korra has never seen before, so she apprentices herself to him, hoping that he could help her with her struggle to connect with her spiritual self.

Tenzin is dismayed to lose his student, but accepts that the Avatar must make her own way. He returns to Republic City, his sister Kya in tow, to pick up his family, including his brother, Bumi, and head to the Northern Air Temple so that Tenzin can teach his children about their Air Nomad roots.

Unalaq, his daughter Eska and son Desna always by his side, encourages Korra to open the Spirit Portals, noting that the world used to be one with the spirits, and that the closing of these portals has put up a barrier that has caused members of the Southern Water Tribe to forget their traditions.

As Korra is attempting to open the Southern Spirit Portal, Northern Water Tribe ships blockade the Southern Water Tribe, locking them away from the rest of the world. Varrick, of Varrick Industries, whose company is suffering from this blockade, begins secretly stirring up trouble and unrest in the Southern Water Tribe. No one seems to be the wiser, however, as he has set up Tonraq, Korra’s father and Unalaq’s brother, who has been vocally opposed to Korra’s apprenticeship, as well as Unalaq’s Northern Water Tribe blockade, to take the fall.

Mako knows better, however, and is now working to put together enough solid evidence to put Varrick behind bars. This is made more complicated by the fact that his good friend Asami is courting Varrick Industries to try and save her company, and that Varrick is attempting to recruit his brother, Bolin, to star in his propaganda ‘movers’ about Nuktuk, the Hero of the South, which he hopes to use to discredit the Northern Water Tribe’s actions.

Amidst all this unrest, however, an even darker plan is unfolding. Though he has been careful to cover his tracks, Unalaq is actually using the Avatar to start Harmonic Convergence, a term signifying a time when both Spirit Portals are opened. Only during Harmonic Convergence can the dark spirit Vaatu be freed from the Tree of Life in the Spirit Realm, and fuse with him to make him into a Dark Avatar. It is his goal, ultimately, to rip the spirit of Raava from Korra and end the Avatar Cycle forever.

Will Korra discover that her plan to connect the Spirit Realm to the Physical Realm could have dark consequences? Will the machinations of all the other players in this game get in her way or hinder her? Can Team Avatar pull together to defeat the Dark Avatar?

[Tholen]

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 01:12 PM, said:

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Ultama, on 16 December 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 November 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Will Korra discover that her plan to connect the Spirit Realm to the Physical Realm could have dark consequences? Will the machinations of all the other players in this game get in her way or hinder her? Can Team Avatar pull together to defeat the Dark Avatar?

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 10 December 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 December 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

With Varrick dead, my personal VC and ability are gone. I don't see any particular downside for town to doing this so I'm Asami.

Korbas, can you (if your allowed) quote you Victory Conditions and any specific abilities connected to Varrick? Maybe it will help us.

I had to be on the same tile with him and use a specialized ability to convince him to make a deal to save Future Industries.
General VC is the Dark Avatar must be deceased.

I asked PS whether Varrick was town or scum. He told me that the information on the thread was all we were going to get. One of the independent roles maybe?

Tennes, on 12 December 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 12 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 December 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

The Northern Spirit Portal is now open. Harmonic Convergence has begun.It is now Day 3. 36 hours remaining.13 players still alive: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara7 votes for a lynch; 7 votes to go Night.13 players not voted: Korbas, Korlat, Rikkter, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, VenesaraWeekend freeze will start when there are 12 hours remaining in Day 3. Any votes placed over the weekend will count.

So there was no night kill yet again. Or am I missing it? This either means that the deaths will =start right now as the "Harmonic Convergence has begun" or because whoever is scum has not gave in any orders, maybe because they didn't have the time? Maybe but doesn't seem all too possible.

At the moment I am thinking its because of one of 2 reasons;

1. That there are location requirments (in the same zone or adjacent or something?) for scum using their NK and they haven't got lucky yet or
2. That the scums actual goal is simply to get into position to raise the dark avatar and we have to find and catch them before then.

Pretty sure that the chances of scum not submitting actions for full 2 days in a row is probably nil Even a low poster if they saw they got scum would take the time necessary to try and screw people

Here's what I don't like about this from Tennes. Korbas's claim for VCs are a dead Dark Avatar, which lines up with the OP. Then Tennes goes and says maybe town's goal is to prevent scum from raising the Dark Avatar?? That sounds very off to me. It makes me wish we had a Tennes lynch going, actually.

See to me the Dark Avatar does not yet exist, but Unalaq is trying to become him. So if we wiped out Unalaq then the Dark Avatar cannot exist? This is what I think he is getting at?

Pretty much yeah. We know for a fact that the dark avatar didn't exist at the start of the game, and it is HIGHLY unlikely they do at the moment unless they got lucky with the Spirit of Iroh visiting the southern spirit portal the day after it opoened. Can anyone confirm/deny that this happened? If you were in the southern portal ASAP and haven't been able to choose a destination yet then we know that the dark avatar does STILL not exist. So what we have at the moment are the thee scum below (according to Tholen at any rate, in his post here: http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1164882

Quote

Unalaq - Korra's uncle, Chief of the Northern Water Tribe, waterbender
Eska - Unalaq's daughter, waterbender
Desna - Unalaq's son, waterbender

So if we manage to lynch/kill/screw with these people enough before they reach the tree then we can pre-empt the dark avatar from even coming into the game.

Sorry bro, but it is the underlined we are all concerned with.

I don't see why you are quoting the wrong thing. What do you know about the spirit thing visiting places and raising the dark avatar? That's information none of us has

[Tholen]

Looking at the map and seeing what you wrote

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can the dark spirit Vaatu be freed from the Tree of Life in the Spirit Realm

Map

Spoiler

 Dark A.png (171.51K)
Number of downloads: 0

The Tree of Life does not touch the Southern Water Tribe.

Surely to get from the Southern Water Tribe to the Southern Spirit Portal, it would take a turn.

To get from the Tree of Life to the Southern Spirit Portal it would take a turn.

To free something from a tile, I assume you'd have to get to that tile first.

So what makes you say that once the portal is opened that the Spirit thing can get to the portal instantly? It suggests you know more about this than the rest of us, and is why I would vote for you right now.

[Tennes]

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

Sorry bro, but it is the underlined we are all concerned with.

I don't see why you are quoting the wrong thing. What do you know about the spirit thing visiting places and raising the dark avatar? That's information none of us has

It's the information everyone has.

1. The setup states that Unalaq has to reach the tree to release the Vaatu. T herefore the "Dark Avatar" doesn't exist (YET)
2. The Spirit of Iroh is the only way to specify a location (PS has updated me and let me know you can move RANDOMLY without his help)
3. To reach the tree of life, Unalaq needed to move into one of thte spirit portals and move randomly or ask Iroh for help to reach the tree.
4. Because it is so early, only someone who moved to the souther spirit portal on the earliest day could have moved in the spirit realm at all.
5. If Iroh was at the portal, then he COULD have moved to the tree of life and thus could have become the dark avatar.

If he wasn't at the southern water tribe at the right time he can't possibly be at the tree yet. If he was, he needed to be ( a ) lucky or ( b ) have the spirit of Iroh to reach it. Don't know if he becomes the avatar as soon as he steps onto it or what, but until he reaches it, he ain't the dark avatar.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 17 December 2014 - 04:07 PM

[Tennes]

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

Looking at the map and seeing what you wrote

Quote

can the dark spirit Vaatu be freed from the Tree of Life in the Spirit Realm

Map

Spoiler

 Dark A.png (171.51K)
Number of downloads: 0

The Tree of Life does not touch the Southern Water Tribe.

Surely to get from the Southern Water Tribe to the Southern Spirit Portal, it would take a turn.

To get from the Tree of Life to the Southern Spirit Portal it would take a turn.

To free something from a tile, I assume you'd have to get to that tile first.

So what makes you say that once the portal is opened that the Spirit thing can get to the portal instantly? It suggests you know more about this than the rest of us, and is why I would vote for you right now.

Oh my god are you serious? That is the introductory post by PATH SHAPER you are suspicious of.

[Korbas]

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

Sorry bro, but it is the underlined we are all concerned with.

I don't see why you are quoting the wrong thing. What do you know about the spirit thing visiting places and raising the dark avatar? That's information none of us has

It's the information everyone has.

1. The setup states that Unalaq has to reach the tree to release the Vaatu. T herefore the "Dark Avatar" doesn't exist (YET)
2. The Spirit of Iroh is the only way to specify a location (PS has updated me and let me know you can move RANDOMLY without his help)
3. To reach the tree of life, Unalaq needed to move into one of thte spirit portals and move randomly or ask Iroh for help to reach the tree.
4. Because it is so early, only someone who moved to the souther spirit portal on the earliest day could have moved in the spirit realm at all.
5. If Iroh was at the portal, then he COULD have moved to the tree of life and thus could have become the dark avatar.

If he wasn't at the southern water tribe at the right time he can't possibly be at the tree yet. If he was, he needed to be ( a ) lucky or ( b ) have the spirit of Iroh to reach it. Don't know if he becomes the avatar as soon as he steps onto it or what, but until he reaches it, he ain't the dark avatar.

Except for point 2, your logic is sound and doesn't require any extra knowledge.



Like this is going to work:

PS, is movement in the spirit world possible without benefit of the Spirit of Iroh?

[Tholen]

Tennes, on 17 December 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Tholen, on 17 December 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

Sorry bro, but it is the underlined we are all concerned with.

I don't see why you are quoting the wrong thing. What do you know about the spirit thing visiting places and raising the dark avatar? That's information none of us has

It's the information everyone has.

1. The setup states that Unalaq has to reach the tree to release the Vaatu. T herefore the "Dark Avatar" doesn't exist (YET)
2. The Spirit of Iroh is the only way to specify a location (PS has updated me and let me know you can move RANDOMLY without his help)
3. To reach the tree of life, Unalaq needed to move into one of thte spirit portals and move randomly or ask Iroh for help to reach the tree.
4. Because it is so early, only someone who moved to the souther spirit portal on the earliest day could have moved in the spirit realm at all.
5. If Iroh was at the portal, then he COULD have moved to the tree of life and thus could have become the dark avatar.

If he wasn't at the southern water tribe at the right time he can't possibly be at the tree yet. If he was, he needed to be ( a ) lucky or ( b ) have the spirit of Iroh to reach it. Don't know if he becomes the avatar as soon as he steps onto it or what, but until he reaches it, he ain't the dark avatar.

You are hanging yourself. Doesn't say he has to reach the tree.

Doesn't say the spirit things helps you move to a specific location.

My role pm says i'd just go to a random location if I entered the spirit realm.

How do you know number 3? I don't.

Why would Iroh become the dark avatar?



I think you need to be lynched. You obviously have the most Dark Avatar knowledge out of us all.