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Quantum Mafia It sounds wrong - that's why it's quantummechanically correct

#661 User is offline   Meanas 

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:57 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Well IF amp is a finder/also a finder I know 100% that his find on me was correct.


Amp is not the finder there are not enough realities left for two finders.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM

Yes I know who I am, but both of you could be lying or just one of you or none of you.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM

So if Alkend turns up town Meanas has to die?


Edit: As in, he would automatically be dead?

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

View PostRuse, on 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM, said:

So if Alkend turns up town Meanas has to die?


If he is wrong the realities settle on one of those that Meanas is dead and had enough players place kills on him. This is the tough part of the next day of the game. Let's say finder is alive in 8 of the 13 realities in all of those eight the finder found player X as scum in all eight. However if they are wrong in the assessment the game should shift to one of the other five realities that are remaining that the town finder is no longer alive. Does this make sense, or am I wrong at this point of view?

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:03 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Well IF amp is a finder/also a finder I know 100% that his find on me was correct.



You're implying you're 100% town, which is unfortunate. As I reckoned you were player 6, sigh.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:04 PM

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:15 PM

View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:02 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM, said:

So if Alkend turns up town Meanas has to die?


If he is wrong the realities settle on one of those that Meanas is dead and had enough players place kills on him. This is the tough part of the next day of the game. Let's say finder is alive in 8 of the 13 realities in all of those eight the finder found player X as scum in all eight. However if they are wrong in the assessment the game should shift to one of the other five realities that are remaining that the town finder is no longer alive. Does this make sense, or am I wrong at this point of view?



Seems as reasonable as anything else influenced by quantum mechanics.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:18 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:19 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM, said:

Yes I know who I am, but both of you could be lying or just one of you or none of you.


I am not lying you are town and an idiot.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:21 PM

All I know that you are in truth is a pompous ass.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:23 PM

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:33 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:21 PM, said:

All I know that you are in truth is a pompous ass.


Actually no I am the finder and the asshole. It has always been such.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:33 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


I don't like this plan. By lynching you we reduce what the five realities that you are scum as you come back town. Worth it really? Keep you alive another day and direct our energy towards the scum of the other four. We can save this option for later and have you add insight and action towards other plans.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:37 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


Actually no and I deal with percentages for a living and understand them better then anyone here except for the possibility of Gavin who isn't around anymore. I did a find on you and am the finder in all remaining realities where I am alive thus in this reality you are town. In tomorrow's reality if I am dead then you can be scum but not now. Thus voting for yourself is useless as long as I am still alive.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:38 PM

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


I don't like this plan. By lynching you we reduce what the five realities that you are scum as you come back town. Worth it really? Keep you alive another day and direct our energy towards the scum of the other four. We can save this option for later and have you add insight and action towards other plans.



I agree. Keep the people around whose numbers we know for certain, so if they ever become pure evil we know who to lynch straight off.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:40 PM

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


Actually no and I deal with percentages for a living and understand them better then anyone here except for the possibility of Gavin who isn't around anymore. I did a find on you and am the finder in all remaining realities where I am alive thus in this reality you are town. In tomorrow's reality if I am dead then you can be scum but not now. Thus voting for yourself is useless as long as I am still alive.



Would you say that you are alive in approximately 8 realities?

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

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View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


Actually no and I deal with percentages for a living and understand them better then anyone here except for the possibility of Gavin who isn't around anymore. I did a find on you and am the finder in all remaining realities where I am alive thus in this reality you are town. In tomorrow's reality if I am dead then you can be scum but not now. Thus voting for yourself is useless as long as I am still alive.


Somewhat true. If you are a finder in the remaining realities you are alive in you will hit a strike. However, if your are wrong you will be dead as it should collapse the realities your are not longer alive. However, if you are wrong tomorrow and still alive, you were lying. That's another option too and you can't talk your way out of that. Remember, these don't all overlap perfectly and it is a important distinction. I am going with your plan based off the above information to see if you are indeed the finder, worth the risk.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:45 PM

I one hundred percent agree with you that if I am wrong then I should be lynched. If alkend doesn't come up scum then I have to be dead or lying and there is no finder left in the game.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:48 PM

View PostRuse, on 11 November 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 November 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

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Your town! Don't be useless.


There are 13 realities. I am town in 8 of them.

I am sorry that you don't understand percentages.


Actually no and I deal with percentages for a living and understand them better then anyone here except for the possibility of Gavin who isn't around anymore. I did a find on you and am the finder in all remaining realities where I am alive thus in this reality you are town. In tomorrow's reality if I am dead then you can be scum but not now. Thus voting for yourself is useless as long as I am still alive.



Would you say that you are alive in approximately 8 realities?


That was a hypothetical I will not want to come close to the modkill line. As such I will not engage in this line of inquiry.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:50 PM

Well there we go then.

I think Ampelas is our best shot at getting a scum result. Still less than 50% though. Indeed, only 8% higher than Alkend probably is, which isn't really much difference at all.

In both cases, or with Galayn or Eloth or whoever, the odds are that we will still get a town result and the finder will die.

Is this what they call Sophie's choice?

But then again, a finder isn't all that necessary any more either.

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