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#741 User is offline   Tiste Simeon 

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 10:48 PM

So we've finished Falcon and the Winter Soldier and that was great, the monologue by Sam at the end was phenomenal. Outstanding character for me was Daniel BrŁhl who was just brilliant.

Currently 4/6 episodes into Loki and I think this is probably the best of the the Marvel shows. The episode on that dying planet was top quality TV.
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Posted 26 July 2021 - 11:02 PM

View PostBriar King, on 26 July 2021 - 09:15 PM, said:

Finished Loki S1
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As long as you realize it's actually you.
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Posted 27 July 2021 - 12:27 PM

View PostBriar King, on 27 July 2021 - 02:06 AM, said:

Not gonna bail. Like I said I want to like it. I may just be in for a slow annoying phase. It’s not impossible for me to enjoy Loki info:
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Bolded part is 100% from existing comics. All of it AFAIK. Also not sure why it's an issue if it's from all different realities?

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 03:20 PM

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I was an X-Men/Excalibur reader.

Just my take
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Which ep is it explained in? Iíd like to rewatch it.


But I mean think about it, but for a slightly different chromosome makeup and luck of the draw at conception, you'd be a girl. So it's not hard to see that angle in a multiverse as, someone was born a girl instead of a boy in another reality from the same parents, or has one different parent, or any number of small differences. The multiverse is literally a bunch of branches of "What if" where different decisions lead to different outcomes. That can happen at the micro-level with chromosomes.

They don't really explain it on the show in any significant way, they just expect that the multiverse is a branched reality with a tonne of different outcomes.

So like in the forthcoming WHAT IF? show for example...Yondu kidnaps T'Challa from Wakanda instead of Peter Quill from Cleveland, and T'Challa becomes Starlord in the GOTG instead of Peter. All of which stems from some small decision Yondu and the Ravagers made as to where they landed on Earth.
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Posted 27 July 2021 - 03:38 PM

I figured the alligator was a lark by the writers, the rest yeah, maybe your folks were facing north instead of South when doing the do and you came out a lady
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Posted 27 July 2021 - 04:39 PM

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Yeah but youíd be your sister and not really you. You wouldnít exist.


Huh? No. Let's say you have a sister...you'd still be you, but would be a girl and your sister would have a sister instead of a brother. It's still you at the genetic level. All that's different is that you have that Y Chromosome instead of the double XX.
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Posted 27 July 2021 - 04:42 PM

the idea is the slightest change changes a persons story and life path as far as I can see it.

if you were by nature because of your parents an evil bastard for example. you'd be an evil bastard regardless of gender. pretend you're setting up a DnD character, where the rolls are the same but the appearance changes.
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Posted 27 July 2021 - 07:57 PM

Finished Loki. Not so in sync with the comics and general MCU knowledge so I may have missed a couple of bits... I'll spoiler it from here.

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 08:28 PM

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in my opinion anyway
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Posted 28 July 2021 - 03:04 PM

I'm aware that I'm completely overthinking this far more than the writers did, but... why does the TVA bring in variants for judgment anyway?

There's one "sacred timeline". Sometimes something weird happens and the timeline branches. The TVA thinks that's bad, so they teleport to that branched timeline, drop the little reset bomb, and teleport out. The reset bomb goes off and destroys the branch, restoring things back to one single sacred timeline.

Isn't everyone in that whole timeline branch a variant? And the reset bomb prunes all of them, so what's the point of bringing one particular person back to the court rather than just leave them in that timeline branch to be pruned by the reset bomb like everyone else?

View PostMacros, on 27 July 2021 - 08:28 PM, said:

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in my opinion anyway


They never did anything with the jetski bit, so I would bet Loki brings that up and befriends him all over again based on that.

Anyhoo, I'm done now and as for me personally Loki was probably my least favourite Marvel anything. I found it very boring and uninspired.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 July 2021 - 11:37 PM

huh, well I'll be damned, Scarlett Johansson is suing Disney. Didn't read the details, but thought I saw something about it has something to do with releasing Black Widow to streaming and theaters at the same time. Fascinating.
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Posted 30 July 2021 - 12:33 AM

View PostMalankazooie, on 29 July 2021 - 11:37 PM, said:

huh, well I'll be damned, Scarlett Johansson is suing Disney. Didn't read the details, but thought I saw something about it has something to do with releasing Black Widow to streaming and theaters at the same time. Fascinating.


'The suit alleges that Johansson agreed that her salary for the film would be based, in large part, on the film's box office haul.


"To maximize these receipts, and thereby protect her financial interests, Ms. Johansson extracted a promise from Marvel that the release of the picture would be a 'theatrical release,'"


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Posted 30 July 2021 - 07:15 AM

Just give her a cut of Disney premium money
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Posted 30 July 2021 - 06:59 PM

Seems like there is momentum building and this could be a trend - Emma Stone could be suing Disney over Cruella.

I hope more will follow and the floodgates open because I loathe Disney for a lot of their bullshit, but lets be honest, Disney could rummage under the driver's side car seat, or under the sofa cushion, and find more than enough chump change to settle any of these lawsuits.
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Posted 01 August 2021 - 07:04 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 30 July 2021 - 06:59 PM, said:

Seems like there is momentum building and this could be a trend - Emma Stone could be suing Disney over Cruella.

I hope more will follow and the floodgates open because I loathe Disney for a lot of their bullshit, but lets be honest, Disney could rummage under the driver's side car seat, or under the sofa cushion, and find more than enough chump change to settle any of these lawsuits.


Not sure this counts as Disney evil. Disney letting us watch these shows at home during a pandemic was good for the customer. The box office of black widow crashing has many reasons one of which is definitely covid. Yes watching on Disney plus and piracy are two others for sure.

Iím sure they can figure something out.
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Posted 02 August 2021 - 12:16 AM

View PostCause, on 01 August 2021 - 07:04 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 30 July 2021 - 06:59 PM, said:

Seems like there is momentum building and this could be a trend - Emma Stone could be suing Disney over Cruella.

I hope more will follow and the floodgates open because I loathe Disney for a lot of their bullshit, but lets be honest, Disney could rummage under the driver's side car seat, or under the sofa cushion, and find more than enough chump change to settle any of these lawsuits.


Not sure this counts as Disney evil. Disney letting us watch these shows at home during a pandemic was good for the customer. The box office of black widow crashing has many reasons one of which is definitely covid. Yes watching on Disney plus and piracy are two others for sure.

Iím sure they can figure something out.

The contracts negotiated meant that Johansson would get paid in relation to how much the movie theater revenue was. They did not deal extensively with streaming - which means the company has actual incentive to cut her out to a degree, push this on streaming as much as possible, and make more money than the original intent was - while she makes less money.

Suing is a logical and probably safe thing to do - and a star like Johansson doing it means that others like Emma Stone or Gerard Butler can sue to address their screwovers. This has industry wide consequences.

A "good" company would have renegotiated the original contract to include streaming, but they didn't. The movie stars don't really have the power to initiate major revisions or to predict a pandemic when they engage in the work three years ago and don't have the institutional power that Marvel/Disney does.

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Posted 02 August 2021 - 12:36 AM

View PostCause, on 01 August 2021 - 07:04 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 30 July 2021 - 06:59 PM, said:

Seems like there is momentum building and this could be a trend - Emma Stone could be suing Disney over Cruella.

I hope more will follow and the floodgates open because I loathe Disney for a lot of their bullshit, but lets be honest, Disney could rummage under the driver's side car seat, or under the sofa cushion, and find more than enough chump change to settle any of these lawsuits.


Not sure this counts as Disney evil. Disney letting us watch these shows at home during a pandemic was good for the customer. The box office of black widow crashing has many reasons one of which is definitely covid. Yes watching on Disney plus and piracy are two others for sure.

I'm sure they can figure something out.


In terms of Good and Evil---no one should be paid that much for acting. (If that's not already in the Bible it should be scribbled in.) Especially not an actor who made me think she was intelligent, or at least willing to minimally educate herself, only to prove terribly otherwise (in choosing to do that movie which falsely claimed 'you only use 10% of your brain', among other things).

Suppose Disney said they were going to stiff all their rich actors and other rich employees who they don't deem virtuous enough to competently reinvest the money, and instead donate what they agreed to pay them to charity. Would that be for the Greater Good? Well, maybe.

But they'd still be breaking a contractual agreement, as they seem to be in this case. It's not like they're 'virtuously' distributing it for 'free' (not even as an ad for their paid service, or supported by ads). Since SJ is out of the Marvel franchise, if the allegations are true they're essentially stiffing her to keep more money for themselves. Vast majority of Earth religions and moralities would consider that Evil (unless done by the religious leaders...). But in the modern world, we should really move beyond 'Morality', to ethics... and from an ethical standpoint hell no they shouldn't be allowed to get away with this. It's egregious corporate malfeasance.

[Edit: I was wrong about Disney+ not being cheaper than seeing it in the theater, assuming they allow one month subscriptions. Apparently about $1.16 cheaper on average.]

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Posted 02 August 2021 - 05:17 PM

One of the reasons why this Johansson lawsuit has industry wide effects is because the streaming platforms have been reluctant to pay residuals into unions for the non-megastars - including IATSE's healthcare and pension, which is making life for the lowest levels and most precarious film industry workers more unstable than ever.

The unions have not managed to push onto the streaming platforms the same agreements that allowed so many to survive in the increasingly more expensive movie industry/LA area and that battle is ongoing.
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Posted 02 August 2021 - 07:30 PM

So I read some early reactions to What If...? and it's supposed to be jahmazeballs.

Is this show going to drop all at once? Or are they going to release episodes weekly?
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Posted 03 August 2021 - 03:47 PM

Finished Loki.

Meh.

1-2 episodes were cool. Great set-up.

3-4 episodes were terrible garbage with awful CGI.

Episode 5 was awesome if preposterous.

Episode 6 was stupid bullshit and if that is their setup for the Next Big Bad they fucked it all up.

They somehow managed to make me think even less of Loki by the end of the show than I did at the start.

One thing I will say is that is that it gave me an urge to go look up a certain time traveling villain in Marvel Unlimited.

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