[Nimander Golit]

In fact, first thing I note is that they had a much more militaristic title than they pretended. Clearly, I think, not just a survivor role like they made out.

[Emurlahn]

Fucking called it

[Nimander Golit]

Emurlahn, on 22 September 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

Fucking called it

Yeah, you did, although your reasoning didn't make much sense to me at the time

I'm assuming that Dejim also lied about the wrath of God stuff too, seeing as that sounded tied-in to his Cardinal role, which we now know he didn't have.

[Karosis]

Ok, if there is enough of my team left, let's lynch the rest and go home. Otherwise, I'm getting lynched today regardless:

Ducato Manuele Mercator

You are Ducato Manuele Mercator, lord of the Mercator family. Your family line goes all the way back to the great Imperators of Gaiia, and while their empire may have crumbled, their duty to protect the City and the Father Who Resides In It still stands. Within the peninsula of Noblesse, the martial prowess of your house is unmatched. A thousand squads of six consisting of heavily armored infantry, armed with two handed warhammers are the backbone of your house, ready at your beck and call. In the troubling times ahead, you will need every single one of them to fulfill the obligations of your house.

You are a member of the independent nobility. You win when all members of all other factions are dead.

You will coroner-find as Ducato Manuele Mercator, a proud Noblesse noble.

[Karosis]

Lack of power + shitty at faction games = horrible, no-good low poster

[Nimander Golit]

If you are who you say you are, then how safe is it to assume, when combining votes with scene description, that out of:

Emurlahn, Iparth Erule, and Bendal Home

One is The Pape of the Church of Holy Prosperity; another is the Doge d'Arsenale; and the third is some sort of other noble?



Edit: Bearing in mind that Tapper himself has stated that the scenes should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

This post has been edited by Nimander Golit: 22 September 2014 - 12:19 PM

[Karosis]

That's up to y'all to decide. I haven't a clue.

[Bendal Home]

Karosis, on 22 September 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Ok, if there is enough of my team left, let's lynch the rest and go home. Otherwise, I'm getting lynched today regardless:

Ducato Manuele Mercator

You are Ducato Manuele Mercator, lord of the Mercator family. Your family line goes all the way back to the great Imperators of Gaiia, and while their empire may have crumbled, their duty to protect the City and the Father Who Resides In It still stands. Within the peninsula of Noblesse, the martial prowess of your house is unmatched. A thousand squads of six consisting of heavily armored infantry, armed with two handed warhammers are the backbone of your house, ready at your beck and call. In the troubling times ahead, you will need every single one of them to fulfill the obligations of your house.

You are a member of the independent nobility. You win when all members of all other factions are dead.

You will coroner-find as Ducato Manuele Mercator, a proud Noblesse noble.

In the Dejim "reveal", there was an inconsistency. He claimed to have the title of Cardinal, but there was no trace of church involvement in his French nobility background story. That did not seem Tapperian to me.

Your background story seems to match your role, so I'm inclined to believe you. However, it's probably easier to edit a role out than it is to edit one in. (But, I suspect the IN was the largest starting faction, with no roled members.)

The only inconsistency or error I can find might be traced back to Tapper, as "Ducato" means duchy or dukedom, with corresponding title of Duca, meaning Duke.

Nimander Golit, on 22 September 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you are who you say you are, then how safe is it to assume, when combining votes with scene description, that out of:

Emurlahn, Iparth Erule, and Bendal Home

One is The Pape of the Church of Holy Prosperity; another is the Doge d'Arsenale; and the third is some sort of other noble?

Edit: Bearing in mind that Tapper himself has stated that the scenes should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

Why did you exclude yourself from the list to be considered? Are you outing yourself as IN?

[Nimander Golit]

Bendal Home, on 22 September 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Why did you exclude yourself from the list to be considered? Are you outing yourself as IN?

Because I wasn't among those who voted for Dejim the second time around. I was comparing those who had voted for him when he was lynched to Tapper's scene. You'll notice Hentos is also missing from the list, for the same reason.


Interesting about the 'Ducato'. I'm more wary now that Dejim has been shown to be false, but I was again inclined to believe Karosis.

[Nimander Golit]

And by the way, Bendal, I believe the Doge d'Arsenale probably also started out as IN (though whether they still are now is unknown, obviously). Not so sure about the Pope dude (is this the first time we've heard of them?).

[Bendal Home]

Nimander Golit, on 22 September 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 22 September 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Why did you exclude yourself from the list to be considered? Are you outing yourself as IN?

Because I wasn't among those who voted for Dejim the second time around. I was comparing those who had voted for him when he was lynched to Tapper's scene. You'll notice Hentos is also missing from the list, for the same reason.

Long day, did not catch that.

I'm not sure if the scene is meant to be read like this as Tapper stated scenes might give away too much information. Also, there are some character named in some of the descriptions, like Roi des Fleurs Louis III, that I suspect are NPCs. The "pape", French translation for Pope, might also be such a non-player character giving "motive" to some of the players. Doge, at least that's what wikipedia tells me, is some sort of elected lord, the word itself coming from the Venetian dialect and related to Duke or Duca. That seems a more appropriately ranked title for the game than Roi (King) or Pape (Pope). I might be completely wrong, though.

Nimander Golit, on 22 September 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Interesting about the 'Ducato'. I'm more wary now that Dejim has been shown to be false, but I was again inclined to believe Karosis.

I still am, but that's just a hunch. However, he has not given us much to go on, so far, so I'm not fully decided.

[Nimander Golit]

Yep, the Doge fits as another psuedo-Italian noble lord (this time a Venetian-flavoured one), which is why I was inclined to put them along with the INs.

We've had German and now French influences on this game. I would be very surprised if we didn't also have some sort of papal one as well, as that too would fit historically.


Yeah, I think you're right to be wary of the scenes. I reckon I'm reading too much into them saying who did what. While those individuals might be in the game, it does not necessarily follow that what's happening in the scenes follows what happens in the game. I think Tapper himself said something along those lines.

[Hentos Ilm]

Im finally back and reading up

[Iparth Erule]

Hentos Ilm, on 11 September 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 September 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

That's interesting. So Noblesse, plus four neighbours, plus mercenary companies. Anyone get anything different from that?

Noblesse seems to be the "country". Gait was set upon by 4 neighboring Baronies, I call them that since he seems to have been a Baron, within Noblesse. There are our factions. It looks like 5 factions

Hentos Ilm, on 16 September 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 02:42 AM, said:

So if the thought that there were 5 factions to start with (5x3=15 people) was true, did we just loose one of the factions?

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

It would explain the absence of a NK on night 1 (the healer/guard got lucky) , it would explain why we have had 2 deaths among one faction out of 3 deaths total. It would make sense if you look at Lock's CF"A signee of treaty of Rosetta" Maybe he was recruited?Thoughts?

The first thing that really jumps out at me this morning are these two comments. It seems fairly obvious to me that all 3 players were from different factions. So why do we have 2 players that either purposely misrepresenting this on thread or have serious reading comprehension problems.

Hentos Ilm, on 16 September 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 September 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Gait is lynched.He was Alfeo de Montferrat, Barone de Montferrat, a proud Noblesse noble.It is now night. I will resolve it in the next 15 minutes. Story blurb will be inserted here, tomorrow, too, but for now all you need to know is that Montferrat, such a pleasant little estate on the east coast of Noblesse, was suddenly beset by four of its neighbours, its plucky little army of peasants with spears and the occassional nobleman with a mounted retinue routed and hunted down, and the mercenary companies raised on loans were bought off, then turning to plunder the same villages they were hired to protect.Such is life in Noblesse.It is now night.

Path-Shaper, on 15 September 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

Lock is dead. He was Iacopo di Vicire, the Hope of Noblesse, proud signee of the Treaty of Rosetta.

Path-Shaper, on 15 September 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Cast is dead. He was Carlito, Barrone de la Loggia, a proud Noblesse noble12 alive. It is now day 3.

Emurlahn, on 16 September 2014 - 11:06 AM, said:

What makes you say they were from 3 seperate factions?

The last names indicate that they all came from different places. If you go back and look at the role PM the last name is the same as the province the person hails from. Unless there is a recruitment factor in play as Iparth has said. But until I get more evidence that that is true Im going to keep that idea at a simmer on the backburner

I started doing a read up on Hentos Ilm because he was rubbing me the wrong way, and I noticed these posts. His other posts are mostly two posts in quick succession with the contents of "I'm here, Sorry wasn't here rest of the day" + "It seems like the lynch is going X's way, VOTE X"

The above posts caught my attention for two reasons:
A) They're the only thing he has said on thread that is actually useful.
B ) They scream "anything other than IN" to me.

I believe Karosis's reveal, mainly because DN's reveal did nothing useful for him and anyone with an important role would have come up with a better defense.

Vote Hentos Ilm

[Iparth Erule]

Hentos Ilm, on 22 September 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:

Im finally back and reading up

Xpost.

[Hentos Ilm]

Nimander Golit, on 22 September 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 22 September 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Why did you exclude yourself from the list to be considered? Are you outing yourself as IN?

Because I wasn't among those who voted for Dejim the second time around. I was comparing those who had voted for him when he was lynched to Tapper's scene. You'll notice Hentos is also missing from the list, for the same reason.


Interesting about the 'Ducato'. I'm more wary now that Dejim has been shown to be false, but I was again inclined to believe Karosis.

Yeah after I saw the weekend freeze post from PS I stopped paying attention to the thread as nothing ever happens. Guess I was wrong this time

[Bendal Home]

Iparth Erule, on 22 September 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 16 September 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 September 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Gait is lynched.He was Alfeo de Montferrat, Barone de Montferrat, a proud Noblesse noble.It is now night. I will resolve it in the next 15 minutes. Story blurb will be inserted here, tomorrow, too, but for now all you need to know is that Montferrat, such a pleasant little estate on the east coast of Noblesse, was suddenly beset by four of its neighbours, its plucky little army of peasants with spears and the occassional nobleman with a mounted retinue routed and hunted down, and the mercenary companies raised on loans were bought off, then turning to plunder the same villages they were hired to protect.Such is life in Noblesse.It is now night.

Path-Shaper, on 15 September 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

Lock is dead. He was Iacopo di Vicire, the Hope of Noblesse, proud signee of the Treaty of Rosetta.

Path-Shaper, on 15 September 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Cast is dead. He was Carlito, Barrone de la Loggia, a proud Noblesse noble12 alive. It is now day 3.

Emurlahn, on 16 September 2014 - 11:06 AM, said:

What makes you say they were from 3 seperate factions?

The last names indicate that they all came from different places. If you go back and look at the role PM the last name is the same as the province the person hails from. Unless there is a recruitment factor in play as Iparth has said. But until I get more evidence that that is true Im going to keep that idea at a simmer on the backburner

B ) They scream "anything other than IN" to me.

I believe Karosis's reveal, mainly because DN's reveal did nothing useful for him and anyone with an important role would have come up with a better defense.

Vote Hentos Ilm

I think the line I highlighted supports statement B. If Hentos was IN, he would know that those faction were not defined by last name or province, but the fact that they were nobility.

Vote Hentos Ilm

[Hentos Ilm]

Iparth Erule, on 22 September 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

I started doing a read up on Hentos Ilm because he was rubbing me the wrong way, and I noticed these posts. His other posts are mostly two posts in quick succession with the contents of "I'm here, Sorry wasn't here rest of the day" + "It seems like the lynch is going X's way, VOTE X"

The above posts caught my attention for two reasons:
A) They're the only thing he has said on thread that is actually useful.
B ) They scream "anything other than IN" to me.

I believe Karosis's reveal, mainly because DN's reveal did nothing useful for him and anyone with an important role would have come up with a better defense.

Vote Hentos Ilm

Well I dont know how useful they actually were as they were completely wrong. I initially thought that the different Nobles would be leading their own factions. As for how I have been playing, I play pretty much the same way in faction games every time. I keep as much info about myself off thread and try to figure out what the fuck is going on. If I dont have any idea as to whats happening I pretty much keep my mouth shut. Other than a couple of more vocal players we have, it seems to be a pretty popular strategy. As for my posts "screaming anything other than IN" I dont quite get your point. Why?

Now the situation as it is now, I think we may have actually gotten rid of the cult which would be a nice change of pace. I think as stated on thread earlier that IN started as a much larger faction than the rest and that it may still hold the majority. We just need to weed out the stragglers. As to who that is...Iparth has skated since he was on the chopping block earlier due to his association with Fand. Thats the only hard lead that I have so far as I need to look back over the whole thread before putting out any more speculation.

[Karosis]

vote hentos

I assume the ready acceptance of my nobility faction mean u are on my side those who are not coming after me. I'm glad i didn't request a mod-kill.

[Bendal Home]

Hentos Ilm, on 22 September 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 22 September 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

I started doing a read up on Hentos Ilm because he was rubbing me the wrong way, and I noticed these posts. His other posts are mostly two posts in quick succession with the contents of "I'm here, Sorry wasn't here rest of the day" + "It seems like the lynch is going X's way, VOTE X"

The above posts caught my attention for two reasons:
A) They're the only thing he has said on thread that is actually useful.
B ) They scream "anything other than IN" to me.

I believe Karosis's reveal, mainly because DN's reveal did nothing useful for him and anyone with an important role would have come up with a better defense.

Vote Hentos Ilm

Well I dont know how useful they actually were as they were completely wrong. I initially thought that the different Nobles would be leading their own factions. As for how I have been playing, I play pretty much the same way in faction games every time. I keep as much info about myself off thread and try to figure out what the fuck is going on. If I dont have any idea as to whats happening I pretty much keep my mouth shut. Other than a couple of more vocal players we have, it seems to be a pretty popular strategy. As for my posts "screaming anything other than IN" I dont quite get your point. Why?

Now the situation as it is now, I think we may have actually gotten rid of the cult which would be a nice change of pace. I think as stated on thread earlier that IN started as a much larger faction than the rest and that it may still hold the majority. We just need to weed out the stragglers. As to who that is...Iparth has skated since he was on the chopping block earlier due to his association with Fand. Thats the only hard lead that I have so far as I need to look back over the whole thread before putting out any more speculation.

What a plausible story. As you've probably noticed, I like to pressure people to come forward with information and I'm not too shy to admit that. I've once pointed to finger at Iparth and I'm still not convinced of his allegiance.

I'm keeping my vote on you for now, to see what you come up with.