[Tiamatha]

Given my last few games, I am on fire. I worked out my strategy early on and you fools did exactly what I wanted. I have been pissing myself laughing for days. I said to PS that I would basically become the Tyrant. Tulas must have thought something similar

Now you got to figure out the other factions and the people you need gone.

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 14 August 2014 - 07:53 AM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 07:45 AM, said:

I don't know if obdi designed it to end up this way, but you and tulas by exploiting your mechanics to the max have pretty much ended this as a faction game, it is pretty much now a town vs tattersail and tulas shorn until you are both dead.

I don't think so. Nothing in my PM states I cannot be recruited. Cult is the biggest threat to this game so far.

My VC's may be mutually exclusive to yours but doesn't mean that we cannot work together to complete them. You don't always have to be antagonistic.

I seriously doubt they ARE mutually exclusive, however you are at best tangentially able to help with mine. In fact, I believe the prerequisites have already been fulfilled, just a matter of it happening now.

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 14 August 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

Given my last few games, I am on fire. I worked out my strategy early on and you fools did exactly what I wanted. I have been pissing myself laughing for days. I said to PS that I would basically become the Tyrant. Tulas must have thought something similar

Now you got to figure out the other factions and the people you need gone.

That's nice for you an Tulas, but I don't imagine everyone else shares the same joviality of this situation.

[Tennes]

Tholen, quote every communication please.

[Tholen]

Tennes, on 14 August 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Tholen, quote every communication please.

God really? There is 4 pages of stuff, most of it lies from him and lies from me.

[Tholen]

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

All off thread comms between you two go here.

Tholan must now submit all orders in this Communication.

Tholan,

While exploring the mansion, you gently brushed a silver coin, and suddenly this voice popped up in your head (Tulas Shorn).

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Do I need to resubmit orders already placed?


Also


Hello Tulas Shorn, whats up?

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

You haven't said hello on thread yet, you planning on doing that soon, or are you playing a deeper game?

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Do I need to resubmit orders already placed?

No.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Do I need to resubmit orders already placed?


Also


Hello Tulas Shorn, whats up?

Hi Tholen.
No deeper game, I have just started eating my breakfast/lunch/dinner(all three..).
After I finish I will say hi on thread.
How are you doing?

[Kalse]

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Tennes, on 14 August 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Tholen, quote every communication please.

God really? There is 4 pages of stuff, most of it lies from him and lies from me.

It can't be worse than what is already on thread.

[Tennes]

Osseric, on 14 August 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Despite the other fairly obvious connections between Tulas and Korvalaina and Tia?

I don't discredit your statement, I'm wondering what makes it a more compelling case.

As has been obvious for some time Tulas and Tiam are different players.

[Tholen]

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

I'm doing pretty good, what made you pick me to make love to? Err, talk to.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

I'm doing pretty good, what made you pick me to make love to? Err, talk to.

Your curling honrs

err, your big mouth!

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

At least buy me a drink first!

What do you make of Korvalain and what his role might be? should we lynch?

Also, as a show of trust, give me all your infos!

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

How long does this connection last?

At least we both seem to be awake at the same time, I'm GMT +0 what about you?

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

I think Korv isn't such a good lynch candidate to fixate on early in the day, unless you have some information I don't. In a faction game like this, I think the most important thing is to disrupt the flow of information for others and get more for yourself. So, when you fixate on someone and he gets lynched, it's a good chance that all his/her teammates will think you're not on their team...

Also, I'm an independent with the ability to seriously throw a wrench in your plans, and or to seriously power you up...

Let's hear about you then?

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

How long does this connection last?

At least we both seem to be awake at the same time, I'm GMT +0 what about you?

The connection lasts for as long as one of us is alive.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

I strongly doubt you can do either of those things.

Not doubting your efficacy, just remarking upon the very nature of my abilities. Or I should say, boosting them is unlikely to provide tangible benefit. They are limited in scope and extent.

As for my already placed order for tonight, if you screw with me, nothing happens, if you do nothing, nothing happens, if you boost me, nothing happens.

Unless you can be more specific about your "boost" and whether or not it is able to adjust my mechanics?

PS will you weigh in if tulas agrees for you to do let us know what my boosted abilities would be?

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

How long does this connection last?

At least we both seem to be awake at the same time, I'm GMT +0 what about you?

The connection lasts for as long as one of us is alive.

*humps* that's better than mine :*( Mine lasts just 1 day and is contingent upon being in the same room during the night with my lover

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

If I may ask what your ability is?
As I said once, I am an independent, my sole objective is having fun.(seriously, I think my VC should have been"HAVE FUN!" )

I have no reason to hurt you(and no power to do so) I can only disrupt and hurt your actions or strengthen them.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

If I may ask what your ability is?
As I said once, I am an independent, my sole objective is having fun.(seriously, I think my VC should have been"HAVE FUN!" )

I have no reason to hurt you(and no power to do so) I can only disrupt and hurt your actions or strengthen them.

My abilities (plural!) are all reactive, and thus, uncontrollable sadly, but here, I can give you an example for one of them.

It's called SLEEP. And when I use it, I go to sleep. I'm not fucking joking. That really is one of my abilities.

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Well, that's great.
I've already told you my allegiance.
Can I have yours?

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

You could, if you can quote me just the part of your PM that states your independance. PS has allowed any and all quotes from anywhere so don't worry about that, I just want to make sure you are on the level.

After korv just did that on thread I am glad to be proven right by wanting him gone asap Seems like a really fucking deadly ability

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Or he may be Someone specifically in the game to stop He Who Comes Behind ?
I will do that quote in a sec.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

1) Survive until the end of the game.

That is an independent VC isn't it?
I quoted that because PS doesn't specifically say I'm an independent in the PM, but the whole thing reeks of it.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

That's universal I'm afraid.

Need a bit more to be going on that what every player aspires to by default to prove yourself

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

Then I'm sorry. As I said PS in no point does specifically say that I'm an independent.
But he names no faction for me. I don't know what I can do except assure you once more that I am an independent.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

Then I'm sorry. As I said PS in no point does specifically say that I'm an independent.
But he names no faction for me. I don't know what I can do except assure you once more that I am an independent.

Tch. So you are going to chicken out in the end, no happy ending for either of us :*( I thought you WANTED my big mouth?

In for a penny in for a pound Tulas, give me a reason to trust you and I will. As you say, you are an independent, why would revealing your PM harm you anymore than thta statement of fact?

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 04:10 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Tch. So you are going to chicken out in the end, no happy ending for either of us :*( I thought you WANTED my big mouth?

In for a penny in for a pound Tulas, give me a reason to trust you and I will. As you say, you are an independent, why would revealing your PM harm you anymore than thta statement of fact?

For starters, because you may be an independent with the VC to kill me?

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

You are Lash!

You are a copy of a demonic presence, passed through a silver coin. You invade peoples thoughts.

This is the most I'm willing to bend.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

woohoo, where are you?

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:35 PM, said:

Was on way home from work.

I assure you now that I know your identity I have no intention of killing you. So you can relax.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:39 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:35 PM, said:

Was on way home from work.

I assure you now that I know your identity I have no intention of killing you. So you can relax.

So... ?
tit for tat...

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Oh fuck it why not,

I'm part of a group that is trying to get the fuck out of the mansion.

My goals are

( a ) to survive to the end or
( b ) escape

So like you, I am not part of a faction, but not strictly speaking independent.

That is why my abilities are defensive and reactive.

Sleep really is an ability of mine, and it really does put me to sleep, which removes me from night actions.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Oh fuck it why not,

I'm part of a group that is trying to get the fuck out of the mansion.

My goals are

( a ) to survive to the end or
( b ) escape

So like you, I am not part of a faction, but not strictly speaking independent.

That is why my abilities are defensive and reactive.

Sleep really is an ability of mine, and it really does put me to sleep, which removes me from night actions.

Your VCs mirror mine.

I have an ability that stops you from doing an ability and another that helps your abilities pass a BP/Guard.

I am EM.

[Tholen]

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Oh fuck it why not,

I'm part of a group that is trying to get the fuck out of the mansion.

My goals are

( a ) to survive to the end or
( b ) escape

So like you, I am not part of a faction, but not strictly speaking independent.

That is why my abilities are defensive and reactive.

Sleep really is an ability of mine, and it really does put me to sleep, which removes me from night actions.

Your VCs mirror mine.

I have an ability that stops you from doing an ability and another that helps your abilities pass a BP/Guard.

I am EM.

IB here

Thats what I thought about your modifier abiltiiy sadly.

None of that will affect mine.

I can remove myself from night actions, or guard someone else. Already told you about the very limited and hard to use lover connection.

So sorry about you getting a useless person to latch onto

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

So, do you know how we can "escape" ?
Because my PM has a glitch in wording that leads me to believe that Escaping is possible without the game ending...

Also, my main reason for choosing you to talk with was because you were a high poster, I didn't want to be left alone with a dead thread and a dead lover convo...

You should underestimate the power a two person block(or a three person one) can have in such a game.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

So, do you know how we can "escape" ?
Because my PM has a glitch in wording that leads me to believe that Escaping is possible without the game ending...

Also, my main reason for choosing you to talk with was because you were a high poster, I didn't want to be left alone with a dead thread and a dead lover convo...

You should underestimate the power a two person block(or a three person one) can have in such a game.

Frustratingly, no.

I'm one of the escapers who has no tools to actually freaking escape or aid in the effort of escaping.

My role PM even goes out of its way to mention that even if the others who want to escape DO escape they MAY choose to take me along.

Thats one of my VCs for christs sake and THEY get to choose?

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

Damn it.
Can I know your role game.(you already have mine)
Also, if I'm one of the escapers that gets to choose I would take you with me.

Do you think we should both move to one room or should we be in two seperate rooms?

I suggest we try to cover as many rooms as possible between the two of us.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

Damn it.
Can I know your role game.(you already have mine)
Also, if I'm one of the escapers that gets to choose I would take you with me.

Do you think we should both move to one room or should we be in two seperate rooms?

I suggest we try to cover as many rooms as possible between the two of us.

PS is being really bloody obtuse today, so I THINK I am currently in the "everywhere" all rooms at once thing, and am going to try to initiate a lover convo with someone as my day action and sleep the night through. That way I dodge any night crap that comes my way and since im "everywhere" in all rooms at once thing my lover is 99% going to work barring dodges and stuffs.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

Damn it.
Can I know your role game.(you already have mine)
Also, if I'm one of the escapers that gets to choose I would take you with me.

Do you think we should both move to one room or should we be in two seperate rooms?

I suggest we try to cover as many rooms as possible between the two of us.

PS is being really bloody obtuse today, so I THINK I am currently in the "everywhere" all rooms at once thing, and am going to try to initiate a lover convo with someone as my day action and sleep the night through. That way I dodge any night crap that comes my way and since im "everywhere" in all rooms at once thing my lover is 99% going to work barring dodges and stuffs.

My question was about where you are going to move to tomorrow. I believe it would be in our best interests to try to cover the max amount of rooms possible so that we get the most clues and can guess with more info.

Also, role name please?(curiosity killed the cat)

I'd suggest a high poster for your ability.

I'm not really against having Korv lynched, I just wanted more info from him before deciding about him.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

I am wholly ignorant of the dresenverse, so I have no idea what connotations this name will have, but here you go;

Mrs Spunkelcrief

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

Nothing?

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

I am wholly ignorant of the dresenverse, so I have no idea what connotations this name will have, but here you go;

Mrs Spunkelcrief

Are you serious?
YOU ARE Harry's FUCKING LANDLORD ircc.

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

So, what do you think re locations?
Also voting block?

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Landlady, yes.

Doesn't help me fucking escape does it?

Multiple references to how im a little old lady no one wants to harm.

Now my sleep makes a lot more sense at least huh

If we can agree on who to vote for sure, voting block

Strongly in favour of a korvalain lynch today personally.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

For locations I think any is as good as any other, none of my abilites are needed to be in one over the other. Can sleep anywhere!

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

I think you need to find out who Dresden is, then ask nicely for him to carry you out.(That is what happened in the books)
That character is half deaf, so she once slept through a zombie attack on Dresden's house...
I will probably move to the Library.
Where ever you want to move, I think it should be somewhere that you can take info from three rooms other than the library and its adjacents.

I don't think we should really care about who we are lynching,we are independents after all.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

Yeah, I'll move to one of the other ones to max coverage, cba looking at the list atm, updating thread in between bosses in DS2

Tulas Shorn, on 11 August 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

I'm still stuck in DS2.

Tholen, on 11 August 2014 - 07:55 PM, said:

It's incredibly hard to start off new characters.

Even though I got both conquerors rings in a single run it almost made me uninstall the game trying to start a sorcerer, its incredibly unfair early on. Fortunately when you get a few levels and reach some of the not-shit items it becomes more manageable.

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

I have now officially met the Pursuer.
Doesn't he remind you of Terminator?(also two hitted me...)

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

After that night where much of nothing happened, I am guessing I was the target for a bunch of those lethal sounding abilties

Poor bastards don't stand a chance while I'm asleep!

Though it does make it harder to do stuff at night if I am going to be forced sleep through it all

I know you weren't the one to block me, as your name isn't showing up on the list either, but thats a really small chance of happening, I think tiam is lying.

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I think he is telling the truth.
Think about it, your sleep makes you immune to all NAs, aka Tiam's NA too.

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I think he is telling the truth.
Think about it, your sleep makes you immune to all NAs, aka Tiam's NA too.

But take a look at the list, there is one in there called "shotgun" but no one was killed, even though it was obviously blocked and unsuccessful, its on the list.

So abilities that were not "activated" went on it, but mine wasn't?

Bear in mind, there is nothing in my PM that suggests immunity to finds or anything like that, no concealment or anything of that nature, it's just... sleep.

IMO that could not have been missed

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

BTW, this is pretty funny, being nice to each other in PMs and nasty on thread

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I think he is telling the truth.
Think about it, your sleep makes you immune to all NAs, aka Tiam's NA too.

But take a look at the list, there is one in there called "shotgun" but no one was killed, even though it was obviously blocked and unsuccessful, its on the list.

So abilities that were not "activated" went on it, but mine wasn't?

Bear in mind, there is nothing in my PM that suggests immunity to finds or anything like that, no concealment or anything of that nature, it's just... sleep.

IMO that could not have been missed

Your ability makes you immune, I don't think shotgun can do anything other than call.
So, you ability works on YOU to make Tiam's not work on you. While shotgun may have been guarded by someone else's ability!

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

As for the pursuer, dodge to the right for most of his attacks. Some of them you don't even need to roll for.

(That works for most bosses in the game in fact )

Dodging to the right is OP!

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

BTW, this is pretty funny, being nice to each other in PMs and nasty on thread

I have to go for a couple of hours, and when I get back, lets have a realy good fight with rants and stuff.

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Are you being possessed on thread or something?

Don't understand what you are doing o.O

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Are you being possessed on thread or something?

Don't understand what you are doing o.O

It's an experiment. It seems like the best way to not get lynched in a TMDI10+ is to taunt everyone.

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

Hey, whats wrong?

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Is an experiment, to see if trying to get yourself lynched is the best way to avoid getting yourself lynched

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Is an experiment, to see if trying to get yourself lynched is the best way to avoid getting yourself lynched

Well, let's see. It should be fun. Start attacking me really hard whenever you went and I will hit back.

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Is an experiment, to see if trying to get yourself lynched is the best way to avoid getting yourself lynched

Well, let's see. It should be fun. Start attacking me really hard whenever you went and I will hit back.

Aww come on, where is your sense of amusement all of a sudden?

Starting to think you really are possessed.

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Is an experiment, to see if trying to get yourself lynched is the best way to avoid getting yourself lynched

Well, let's see. It should be fun. Start attacking me really hard whenever you went and I will hit back.

Aww come on, where is your sense of amusement all of a sudden?

Starting to think you really are possessed.

Errm. I'm serious.
I'm hoping we could hog a page or two of the thread.

I had to remove some emotes because there were too many, nothing but smileys was lost.

[Tholen]

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

Move to Underground Pool

Wave at Kalse

Sleep

Tulas, waving is how I establish lover conversations with people, and I chose kalse simply because he is the highest poster who is not dead/abnout to die, and who isn't already in lover convo with me

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Is an experiment, to see if trying to get yourself lynched is the best way to avoid getting yourself lynched

Well, let's see. It should be fun. Start attacking me really hard whenever you went and I will hit back.

Aww come on, where is your sense of amusement all of a sudden?

Starting to think you really are possessed.

Errm. I'm serious.
I'm hoping we could hog a page or two of the thread.

Oh, well lets keep it so we don't distract from the Tiamatha lynch at the moment. but sure we can go for a fight later

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

You weren't supposed to notice!


Also softening up the ground for when we do brawl

Tholen, on 13 August 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Ready to do this?

Tulas Shorn, on 13 August 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

you here Tholen?
Have any idea what could facilitate our escaping?
PS tells me that I automatically go wherever you go.

Tholen, on 13 August 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

I have no way to do anything about my escape, I only go along if others escape. I guess if we find the room that had the damaged wall? Or pick up an item that helps?

But no fucking clue at the moment.

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 13 August 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

What did Kalse say in your conversation?
Oh, and PS told me something new too.
I only get to escape if You get to escape...

Tholen, on 13 August 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Kalse has said nothing, since I have to wave at them during the day and be in the same room as them at night it failed.

Thats 2 in a row that have fucking failed, I stayed in the "everywhere" on night 1 to get my first lover convo going and it somehow failed anyway.

My abilities fucking suck.

Picking the same room as the one person I want to talk to is seriously unlikely.

Tulas Shorn, on 13 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Want to fight, I'm booored.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 07:18 AM, said:

Move to Underground Pool

OTHER ACTIONS REDACTED

This is the ONLY post in the entire conversation I have redacted, because it is my actions for today and tonight. Tulas might post it if he gets on and feels like it.

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Noted.

[Tennes]

Thank you Tholen.

So, Tulas is claiming to be Lasciel's shadow.

In the books the shadow is in Dresdens brain, gets killed in there and Dresden lives. Nothing in those PMs indicates mutual death.

Dragon, remove my vote please.

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!

[Tholen]

Okay so now that that is out of the way, first things first!

1. There is a group of players whose goal is to escape we are not involved in your faction wars in ANY WAY. I have the list of those whose goal it is to escape, but no tools to do so myself. The sonic boom that damaged the walls is likely the precursor to allowing this small group of players to escape. This is how I knew immediately Tulas Shorn was lying to me about his VCs, and thus everything else.

2. I am NOT the leader of the escapers, nor am I able to help them in any way but as a messenger. That's what my day action is, I can set up a 1 day lover connection with anyone I want, and I wanted to try and ferry messages back and forth between my guys and help us escape. I think the ability to escape has been split among the group and we need to set it up ourselves. However all of my conversations have failed to this point, and after tulas invaded me I have been unable to proceed as planned.

3. Tulas shorn is a spirit inside me, and goes where I go.

4. I lied to Tulas about my sleep ability, it protects me from ATTACKS and that is it, it does not affect positive actions against me in any way, thats why I think whoever made the list was lying.

5. A tulas shorn lynch is 99.99% likely to just kill me, given his actions and PSes comments.