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This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 July 2014 - 05:25 PM

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Okay so simple setup; few players and so few roles. I'm going to go with two killers with no communication and alternating NKs. They'll know who each other are but that's it. Might include one of a Finder, Healer or a Guard.

So first things first, players and alts

1 ) Sir Thursday
2 ) Tattersail_
3 ) Shinrei
4 ) Gust Hubb
5 ) Inane Babble
6 ) Khellendros
7 ) The Unfound
8 ) EmperorMagus
9 ) Gnaw
10) A Demon Llama

I've PM'd ADL to see if he wants to still.

With 10 alts there will be no symp; a little too in scums favour based on current games. So 2 killers, 8 town. One role, will random.org and see which one to have.

Quote

There were 3 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
Finder
Healer
Guard

Timestamp: 2014-07-06 18:00:05 UTC

You have randomized this list 5 times.

Finder it is.

Game alts / Roles:

Ay Estos - tanker
Bendal Home - hiphop
Bek Okhan - lemon
Dejim Nebrahl - anything
Denesmet - fjord
Hentos Ilm - flavour
Kilava - skaven
Okral Lom - reduction
Rikkter - starboard
Ryllandaras - aluminium
Tholen - colour

Who gets what:

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There were 10 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
3 ) Shinrei
7 ) The Unfound
10) A Demon Llama
4 ) Gust Hubb
9 ) Gnaw
5 ) Inane Babble
8 ) EmperorMagus
1 ) Sir Thursday
2 ) Tattersail_
6 ) Khellendros

Timestamp: 2014-07-06 18:03:21 UTC

You have randomized this list 5 times.

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There were 10 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
Denesmet - fjord
Okral Lom - reduction
Rikkter - starboard
Kilava - skaven
Hentos Ilm - flavour
Tholen - colour
Ay Estos - tanker
Ryllandaras - aluminium
Dejim Nebrahl - anything
Bendal Home - hiphop

Timestamp: 2014-07-06 18:04:16 UTC

You have randomized this list 5 times.

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There were 10 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
RI
RI
RI
Killer
Finder
RI
RI
RI
RI
Killer

Timestamp: 2014-07-06 18:05:02 UTC

You have randomized this list 5 times.

Well one extra - Blend. 2 have read their PMs as of 10min ago, Gust and Shin. Remainder randomised and one role pm changed to symp - EM / Ay Estos

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 July 2014 - 11:05 PM

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Gust Hubb - Kilava - Killer (ODD NIGHTS)
Khellendros - Bendal Home - Killer (EVEN NIGHTS)
EmperorMagus - Ay Estos - Symp
Gnaw - Hentos Ilm - Finder
A Demon Llama - Rikkter - RI
Blend - Bek Okhan - RI
Inane Babble - Tholen - RI
Shinrei - Denesmet - RI
Sir Thursday - Ryllandaras - RI
Tattersail_ - Dejim Nebrahl - RI
The Unfound - Okral Lom - RI

Gnaw, on 05 July 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Out for any game that doesn't include a SK, Survivor, Lover connection, or finder unless it starts on a Friday in which case I'm in.

Just for my own smug satisfaction I'm going to give everyone a potato name. Reference: British Potato Variety Database (I kid you not)

Gust Hubb - Kilava - Red Duke Of York
Khellendros - Bendal Home - King Edward
EmperorMagus - Ay Estos - Erntestolz
Gnaw - Hentos Ilm - Lulu
A Demon Llama - Rikkter - Melody
Blend - Bek Okhan - Pink Gypsy (well if he does sign up lateish...)
Inane Babble - Tholen - Nieta
Shinrei - Denesmet - Vivaldi
Sir Thursday - Ryllandaras - Winston
Tattersail_ - Dejim Nebrahl - Asterix
The Unfound - Okral Lom - Carlingford

All Role PMs and alt PMs have been sent out, thread will be unlocked tomorrow morning

Gusty with the odd night kills will mean he's going to have to try and remain un-alted to get a second kill in. With Khell as killer too that's going to be a fun game to watch

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

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Resolutions


Day/Night 1
Ay Estos - EmperorMagus - Symp
Bek Okhan - Blend - RI - Killed
Bendal Home - Khellendros - Killer (EVEN NIGHTS) Order: Tholen, Ryllandaras, Rikkter, Okral Lom, Hentos Ilm, Denesmet, Dejim Nebrahl, Bek Okhan, Ay Estos
Dejim Nebrahl - Tattersail_ - RI
Denesmet - Shinrei - RI
Hentos Ilm - Gnaw - Finder Orders: Find Okral Lom (town.) If dead, find Dejim (town.)
Kilava - Gust Hubb - Killer (ODD NIGHTS) Orders: NK Bek Okhan then Hentos Ilm then Ryllandaras
Okral Lom - The Unfound - RI
Rikkter - A Demon Llama - RI
Ryllandaras - Sir Thursday - RI
Tholen - Inane Babble - RI - lynched


Day/Night 2
Ay Estos - EmperorMagus - Symp
Bendal Home - Khellendros - Killer (EVEN NIGHTS) Orders: Denesmet
Dejim Nebrahl - Tattersail_ - RI
Denesmet - Shinrei - RI - Killed
Hentos Ilm - Gnaw - Finder Orders: Bendal Home (scum.) If dead, find Ay Estos (town.)
Kilava - Gust Hubb - Killer (ODD NIGHTS) Orders: Hentos Ilm then Ryllandaras
Okral Lom - The Unfound - RI
Rikkter - A Demon Llama - RI - Lynched
Ryllandaras - Sir Thursday - RI



Day/Night 3
Ay Estos - EmperorMagus - Symp
Bendal Home - Khellendros - Killer (EVEN NIGHTS) Orders: - lynched
Dejim Nebrahl - Tattersail_ - RI
Hentos Ilm - Gnaw - Finder Orders: Ay Estos (town,) Kilava (scum) <BP REMOVED>
Kilava - Gust Hubb - Killer (ODD NIGHTS) Orders: Hentos Ilm (fails - BP) then Okral Lom then Dejim
Okral Lom - The Unfound - RI
Ryllandaras - Sir Thursday - RI




Day/Night 4
Ay Estos - EmperorMagus - Symp
Dejim Nebrahl - Tattersail_ - RI
Hentos Ilm - Gnaw - Finder Orders: Dejim Nebrahl (town,) Ryllandars (town)
Kilava - Gust Hubb - Killer (ODD NIGHTS) Orders: Dejim Nebrahl, Hentos Ilm, Okral Lom
Okral Lom - The Unfound - RI
Ryllandaras - Sir Thursday - RI

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

[Vengeance]

My first thought is that scum wins.

Did you give Gnaw a BP? Scum knows each other and they have a symp who knows both. That is pretty dam powerful. Khell and GH as scum. Odds 70 percent in scums favor.

This post has been edited by Vengeance: 07 July 2014 - 01:43 PM

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Vengeance, on 07 July 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

My first thought is that scum wins.

Did you give Gnaw a BP? Scum knows each other and they have a symp who knows both. That is pretty dam powerful. Khell and GH as scum. Odds 70 percent in scums favor.

Aye, I hadn't been intending on a symp but the last minute addition of Blend tipped numbers heavily against them; couple check roles and see who hasn't checked in and give them maybe a heal?

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Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 07 July 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

My first thought is that scum wins.

Did you give Gnaw a BP? Scum knows each other and they have a symp who knows both. That is pretty dam powerful. Khell and GH as scum. Odds 70 percent in scums favor.

Aye, I hadn't been intending on a symp but the last minute addition of Blend tipped numbers heavily against them; couple check roles and see who hasn't checked in and give them maybe a heal?

Hmm, only people not read roles are Gnaw (finder) and ADL - I'll edit in a BP for Gnaw

Edit: Done. Now we just need him to check in...
Edit edit: Jut in time, 10min later he signed in. Thanks Venge

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 July 2014 - 03:18 PM

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Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 07 July 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

My first thought is that scum wins.

Did you give Gnaw a BP? Scum knows each other and they have a symp who knows both. That is pretty dam powerful. Khell and GH as scum. Odds 70 percent in scums favor.

Aye, I hadn't been intending on a symp but the last minute addition of Blend tipped numbers heavily against them; couple check roles and see who hasn't checked in and give them maybe a heal?

Hmm, only people not read roles are Gnaw (finder) and ADL - I'll edit in a BP for Gnaw

Edit: Done. Now we just need him to check in...
Edit edit: Jut in time, 10min later he signed in. Thanks Venge

Of course if scum hits that BP and then they are going to know that something is up. Hopefully they will think that there is a healer and not try again the next night.

Your other option would be to have paired town. But with a game this small it would have put the edge to much toward town. As it is I think that scum still has above 50% shot at winning. But at least town has a chance. Especially if they can alt and lynch Khell and Gusty.

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Vengeance, on 07 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Of course if scum hits that BP and then they are going to know that something is up. Hopefully they will think that there is a healer and not try again the next night.

Your other option would be to have paired town. But with a game this small it would have put the edge to much toward town. As it is I think that scum still has above 50% shot at winning. But at least town has a chance. Especially if they can alt and lynch Khell and Gusty.

Yes, when I saw who ended up scum it really encouraged me not to add in anything else and so made me more succeptible to a symp going in - to distract from the need to lynch them if nothing else!

[Vengeance]

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 07 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Of course if scum hits that BP and then they are going to know that something is up. Hopefully they will think that there is a healer and not try again the next night.

Your other option would be to have paired town. But with a game this small it would have put the edge to much toward town. As it is I think that scum still has above 50% shot at winning. But at least town has a chance. Especially if they can alt and lynch Khell and Gusty.

Yes, when I saw who ended up scum it really encouraged me not to add in anything else and so made me more succeptible to a symp going in - to distract from the need to lynch them if nothing else!

I suspect that nobody will be able to alt them until day 3 at the earliest. I probably would have left the symp out of it. But if EM signals and it is picked up on then town will have a chance. Khell and Gusty are good at being bad.

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Dejin

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:

Ryll being Inane or Khell maybe, wanted to interact much early on.

Seem as both Ryll and Ay Estos have started at a fast pace it will be good to see if either continue this or drop off at a later stage/time

Then you have Tholen, who has chosen to make a statement about his own avatar but not respond back to it in anyway. Even with Ryll's attempt at conversation.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Nothing much to go off as of yet.

*Note to self, to read this PM before commenting on thread. As and when I choose to make an appearance.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

For my own benefit, later on in the game..

1 ) Sir Thursday
2 ) Tattersail_
3 ) Shinrei
4 ) Gust Hubb
5 ) Inane Babble
6 ) Khellendros
7 ) The Unfound
8 ) EmperorMagus
9 ) Gnaw
10) A Demon Llama
11) Blend

Now, it's a shame I am not going to spam. ADL may have enjoyed my fast pace in his/her first game.

Shin is not one to make a lot of comments, Gust Hubb has not made an appearance yet as far as I can see.

To be fair, I cannot look at post count at all this game for scum. We just have to look out for scummy things because any of these guys being a killer and they could play it anyway they wanted.

The other game that had Blend and Gnaw as killer. They made sporadic appearances at best.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

That right there is my only post until I have to vote.

Kilava is Gnaw. That's a "coffee" guess. I prefer tea.Could be Blend though.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

Note to self, check who talked about avatar and who said nothing. It's a no no for scum. So I would place those types of player on the town side of things, just depends on whether it looks like signalling, and even if it does it will probably be wrong.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

Ryll has already hit on the coffee comment. Nasty bit of work, new guy jumping to conclusions.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

Kilava is being very quiet with Ryll's vote. What to make of it?

She hasn't tried to brush it off, or even OMgus it.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and I am already pulling my hair out. I can see why I end up posting so much.

Is this mafia? I prefer a high volume of posts, however, I have come across symp like the last few games.

I am literally f5ing every 5 minutes

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and I am already pulling my hair out. I can see why I end up posting so much.

Is this mafia? I prefer a high volume of posts, however, I have come across symp like the last few games.

I am literally f5ing every 5 minutes

You're talking to the Honorary Symp of HHM dude, I feel your pain

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 07 July 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and I am already pulling my hair out. I can see why I end up posting so much.

Is this mafia? I prefer a high volume of posts, however, I have come across symp like the last few games.

I am literally f5ing every 5 minutes

You're talking to the Honorary Symp of HHM dude, I feel your pain

but Tapper will be proud of me. He hates it when I throw shitty arguments out there, and accuse the whole thread. He's like my mentor (my current one)

Khell was my old one, look where that got me ha ha

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Killer

Kilava, on 06 July 2014 - 10:24 PM, said:

HEHEEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEEHEHEAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Now where did I leave Azath?

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

Kilava, on 06 July 2014 - 10:26 PM, said:

So mess or venge?

guess

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

Kilava, on 06 July 2014 - 10:26 PM, said:

So mess or venge?

guess

Well guessed

Kilava, on 06 July 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Heh. See you bright and early

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:

Are we allowed to reveal in this game? if so, I am already setting up to be the town healer (simple code, first letter after contraction with missing apostrophe, perfect for any grammar nazi). I think I will also encode my choices and if there is a real healer i can piggy back or if there is trouble, I'll withhold a kill and claim healership.

So, who gets the first kill, me or BH?

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

That's funny, killers, one post after another.

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

Well this will be interesting. Start interaction early, throw them off the scent. Also get in encoded letter #2 with "Sorry, its early"

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

I just hope BH keeps his cool

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rhyl is definitely setting something up. Just want to know what. But regardless:

Please kill in this order:
Rhyl
AE
Tholen

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

Yeah, trying to hard I am. hopefully that disguises who I am alt wise.

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 01:03 PM, said:

heh

Kilava, on 07 July 2014 - 01:06 PM, said:

Dead thread is dead

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Other killer

Bendal Home, on 07 July 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

But what do the two and a half potatoes represent???!!! I must needs wifom.

This is bad. Although I do say that every time I get any sort of role. But this is bad. Because I'm not going to have much time to post this week, and almost no time next week. I shall have to be a low poster extraordinaire.
And dammit, looks like the 'Khell survives the first two nights, he's scum or gone rogue' will stay true another game.

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Symp

Ay Estos, on 07 July 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

Thanks, I guess?
I don't think I've ever played as Symp.
Also, sign up thread lists 10 players, who is the eleventh?
Do BH and Kilava know each other/ have lover convo ?

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Ay Estos, on 07 July 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

Thanks, I guess?
I don't think I've ever played as Symp.
Also, sign up thread lists 10 players, who is the eleventh?
Do BH and Kilava know each other/ have lover convo ?

You'll be fine I'm sure

Blend pipped up Sunday pm - did some hasty re-randomising

They know each other

Ay Estos, on 07 July 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

And our illustrious mod is Mess?

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Ay Estos, on 07 July 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

And our illustrious mod is Mess?

With Venge hanging around if he ever reads the PM I sent him with the passwords in!

Ay Estos, on 07 July 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

Great.

[Azathmaster]

Oh god Gusty's scum... Please town follow my rule

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Azathmaster, on 07 July 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

Oh god Gusty's scum... Please town follow my rule

I see now why it is a rule.

I'm out for the night, back in maybe 8 hours

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Okral Lom, on 08 July 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

Ok so first alt guess is Inane for Denesmet

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Ryllandaras, on 07 July 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

OK, new strategy for this game. I've decided I'm going to spend Day 1 throwing names at people and seeing what sticks. Hopefully there'll be a rich soup of interactions to work from. Or at least, at some point someone will make a case on me for signalling at literally everyone, and people's reactions to the various signals I throw out may indicate something useful. So far:

- Talked to Tholen about Bendal Home and Dejim Nebrahl.
- Linked together Kilava and Dejim Nebrahl
- Talked to Kilava about Denesmet and Hentos Ilm

Still need to incorporate:

Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Okral Lom, Rikkter

Ryllandaras, on 08 July 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

Hmm, I'm not sure this strategy works very well. It's too obvious what I'm doing - it kind of needs to be coordinated by several people so you get coverage of everyone without the whole thread thinking you're a schitzophrenic loon. Possibly something to shelve until I end up in a pair.

On the plus side, I have a few impressions:

- Bendal Home: Could be a lazy town. But his play also fits with that of a new player who is scum for the first time.
- Dejim Nebrahl: Seems most likely to be a town player who wants to get things moving. He overstates his case quite a bit, but in ways that I recognise as those of someone thinking critically about the game (I like the way he picks up on me not reacting to something - that's one I use a lot on Day 1 when there's nothing else to go on). Small possibility that he's scum who saw an opportunity to lead the thread, but if so he did an unusually competent job of it - usually scum cases are lazy and conflate length with strength.
- Ay Estos: Unwilling to drop a vote on me despite disliking my play, which suggests he's being over-cautious for some reason. Expectation of a post clarifying the setup suggests a new-ish player, so need to bear that in mind. But probably a good bet for scum or roled town.
- Hentos Ilm: Heavy on the RP/spam, light on actual play. No indication that he's looking to generate anything interesting. Primarily interacted with BH, Rikkter and Kilava (probably just a timing thing though). Would like to see his reaction to 'serious business' before I come to any conclusions, but seems like he might be scum hoping to float through the first day without getting sucked into anything dangerous.
- Kilava: Shrugged off my attempts to bait. Willing to interact, but unwilling to chase/rebuff/get angry when I try to link to another player. I get a town-ish vibe, feel like it was handled well - cautiously but without fear.

Have thoughts on the others too, but no time to post them right now. I'm probably going to throw out AE and BH as alternatives to myself in response to DN's query...we'll see how that goes.

ST

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No orders from Gnaw as yet, 7hrs40 to go. Hope there's no issues there

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Dejim Nebrahl, on 08 July 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Basically I think Tholen is ADL.

I don't know how that would relate to him being scum.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 08 July 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

I have typed a post about 5 times and deleted it. I am very tempted to post here but I am going to leave my vote and suspicions where they are for now.

If it is a cussing rant. Then please share. I can critic it.

-Venge