[Ampelas]

That was so superbly timed by Pallid and Denul that I am in awe.

Kaschan can you tell us what the "Callsign Swamp Thing" was?

[Denul]

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

[Kaschan]

Barghast, on 17 June 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Bob Marley, Greenday, Stevie Wonder all followed, awesome set. Then this...



(I don't have volume on work computer but hopefully that is the right "wipeout")

Ok so as for a connection between Barghast and I, I believe I could be a bit more subtle than having that response immediately after he posted it. Now, I might be reaching here but looking at this post. What do Bob, Greenday and Stevie Wonder have to do with Wipe Out. And why do those bands correspond with alts that share the same letter. G being one of them and GL responding with another blind piano player? I find it a little out there but interesting

[Liosan]

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

I was saying hes less suspicious than when he voted. If he hadnt removed i would be voting him right now, but now hes less suspicious, but not unscummy.

Edit:damn phone

This post has been edited by Liosan: 18 June 2014 - 03:27 PM

[Kaschan]

Ampelas, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

That was so superbly timed by Pallid and Denul that I am in awe.

Kaschan can you tell us what the "Callsign Swamp Thing" was?

Me being goofy day one and a fan of top gun.

[Ampelas]

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

Eloth

First post in the game

Eloth, on 17 June 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

Yeah man. And out again.

His next post doesn't come until after all of the Hello kitty spam. Then he just adds this

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 07:31 AM, said:

Well, that's enlightening.

I don't really know what to make of this post. I think that he is referring to the link.

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 07:31 AM, said:

Well, that's enlightening.

Rule 34?

I am at work, so I'll pass.
I meant the amount of posts, anyway.

A reference to a Banks novel that involves a party (If I remember that correctly) Possible signaling Who or what I have no idea.

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

Pallid, on 17 June 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

Slightly disturbed by the hello kitty fetish

Vote Sukul Ankhadu

I don't think it's a good idea to leave such a disturbed individual in the game.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

Well that was an exciting night.
way to be reaching for any excuse for a vote Pallid

Trying to create early distance between each other or just a good old fashioned culling of the prudes?

Making sure they get a Ximenyr-style send-off (for those who've read The Hydrogen Sonata)?

Doubles down on the possible signal to make sure that whom ever he was signaling got it.

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

Making sure they get a Ximenyr-style send-off (for those who've read The Hydrogen Sonata)?

I mean death by Ximenyr, here, to clarify...

Reaction to the vote on HP but adds nothing.

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 18 June 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

Wow I get on this morning expecting a full fledged shit show and there surprisingly isnt much going on

Yeah, that was my reaction, too. Oh well.
Regarding the HP vote... meh. It would be something different if we were at page 6 already, but this is post #53 and it's rather hypocritical to vote for no-shows when there's nothing happening anyway, even to call the guy out.

But maybe that's just tolerant ol' me.

Another nothing post.

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Eloth, on 18 June 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 18 June 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

Wow I get on this morning expecting a full fledged shit show and there surprisingly isnt much going on

Yeah, that was my reaction, too. Oh well.
Regarding the HP vote... meh. It would be something different if we were at page 6 already, but this is post #53 and it's rather hypocritical to vote for no-shows when there's nothing happening anyway, even to call the guy out.

But maybe that's just tolerant ol' me.

I am extremely tolerant, I tell you. I even let old ladies jump the queue.

Totally playing it safe. With some more possible signalling.

Vote Eloth

I wondered about that too. He made a point of calling himself old then specifies that he's nice to other old people?

When trying to prove you are a tolerant person, old people aren't the first group that comes to mind IMO.

[Pallid]

Worth bearing in mind that this is a Killers vs Town game according to the OP. That means no symps, and it's probably safe to assume two paired killers. So given that, why are people looking for signalling? There are no roles to code and no reason for anyone to need to signal anyone else. Interactions and distancing are the name of the game in a scenario like this.

[Nimander Golit]

I'm somewhat suspicious of Pallid's seemingly random vote hopping…

Pallid, on 17 June 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

Slightly disturbed by the hello kitty fetish

Vote Sukul Ankhadu

I don't think it's a good idea to leave such a disturbed individual in the game.

Okay, so the Sukul vote is a joke vote. That's fine, good for Day 1.

Then he starts getting serious, with a vote on Denul…

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

OK, the previous vote was a bit of a joke, but this one is serious. Denul says that he feels we need something to get the game going. He also says he doesn't like GL's vote on HP. Now, there's an easy solution here: he could vote for GL, thereby expressing his displeasure and simultaneously helping to inject some action into the game. But apparently Denul doesn't feel that it's his responsibility to actually do anything about getting the game started himself. He's quite happy just pointing out that the game needs to move without doing anything about it.

Remove Vote
Vote Denul

A game where nothing happens is a game the scum win - in my book if you're facilitating that you're at best an obstruction to finding the scum, and at worst a scum yourself.

Of course, Denul crossposts, which refutes Pallid's case without even having to try…

Then he puts a vote on Barghast cause Barghast posted a joke picture.

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

I looked at Barghast while I was looking over Kaschan. He is a little suspect. The other one is Eloth.

At least Eloth was willing to interact with others on thread and talk about what was under discussion, whereas Barghast didn't even acknowledge any of that stuff. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and:

Vote Barghast

I think that he's playing the "I'm a townie, look at me while I vote hop on Day 1, like a townie would do, cause why would scum bring so much attention to themselves" reverse psychology angle. I mean, his cases so far have completely rested on "this person isn't taking the game as seriously as I am" and for a Day 1 vote, I'm not buying it.

vote Pallid

This post has been edited by Nimander Golit: 18 June 2014 - 03:29 PM

[Galayn Lord]

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

[Liosan]

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

Well this is interesting. I was judging you based on your actions the entire game: jokes, voting HP, removing, and now jumping on to denuls suspicions of me the moment you get brought up as connected to me. Seems like some jumpy, scared distancing. And now you're much more suspicious to me.

I wont OMGUS vote you, but know you're suspicious in my eyes

[Pallid]

@NG: I've removed my vote twice: one was a joke vote (Sukul Ankhadu) and one was immediately refuted (Denul). Would you not agree that in both cases removing was justified?

[Denul]

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Worth bearing in mind that this is a Killers vs Town game according to the OP. That means no symps, and it's probably safe to assume two paired killers. So given that, why are people looking for signalling? There are no roles to code and no reason for anyone to need to signal anyone else. Interactions and distancing are the name of the game in a scenario like this.

Where you get no symps because it is a killers vs town game. The bare basic m/p game is a killer with a symp. Paired killers actually increase the TMDI level because you have to put town roles in that balance out killer communication. With just a killer and a symp, town does not need to have any roles. I disagree on your conclusion that there can not be a symp in the game. Saying something like that seems like an attempt to generate WIFOM for no reason.

[Liosan]

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

@NG: I've removed my vote twice: one was a joke vote (Sukul Ankhadu) and one was immediately refuted (Denul). Would you not agree that in both cases removing was justified?

I think they were, but the Denul one seemed almost too convenient.

[Barghast]

Shinrei, on 17 June 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Dear Malazan Mafia Addicts

There is no setting. There is no spoon. Just Killers and Town.

In Mafia, no one can hear you screaming at your computer

RI pm is simply - you are RI

I will write scenes, but they will make no sense whatsoever.

It is day 1, 36 hours are left. Nights will be instantaneous.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu


No one has voted.


A TRUE M&P GAME IS ON.

People looking for signalling cases is a bit suspect, right in the OP he said killers and town. No symp was mentioned at all.

Nothing has stood out to me at all, or nothing worth a mention.

https://38.media.tum...pjjrio1_400.gif

[Nimander Golit]

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

@NG: I've removed my vote twice: one was a joke vote (Sukul Ankhadu) and one was immediately refuted (Denul). Would you not agree that in both cases removing was justified?

I think it's possible that it worked out pretty conveniently for you, yes...

[Galayn Lord]

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

Well this is interesting. I was judging you based on your actions the entire game: jokes, voting HP, removing, and now jumping on to denuls suspicions of me the moment you get brought up as connected to me. Seems like some jumpy, scared distancing. And now you're much more suspicious to me.

I wont OMGUS vote you, but know you're suspicious in my eyes

Oh wow, I'm suspicious again now. Consistent aren't you.

My vote is entirely independent of Denul - I based it soley off your single post that was quoted above.

[Denul]

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 17 June 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Dear Malazan Mafia Addicts

There is no setting. There is no spoon. Just Killers and Town.

In Mafia, no one can hear you screaming at your computer

RI pm is simply - you are RI

I will write scenes, but they will make no sense whatsoever.

It is day 1, 36 hours are left. Nights will be instantaneous.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu


No one has voted.


A TRUE M&P GAME IS ON.

People looking for signalling cases is a bit suspect, right in the OP he said killers and town. No symp was mentioned at all.

Nothing has stood out to me at all, or nothing worth a mention.

https://38.media.tum...pjjrio1_400.gif

Since when is a symp mentioned?

According to Mafia Wiki

Normal Games

The Traitor (Symp on our forum) is a common and allowed for basic games. To assume that there is not a symp seems like a big stretch at any point.

[Barghast]

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 17 June 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Dear Malazan Mafia Addicts

There is no setting. There is no spoon. Just Killers and Town.

In Mafia, no one can hear you screaming at your computer

RI pm is simply - you are RI

I will write scenes, but they will make no sense whatsoever.

It is day 1, 36 hours are left. Nights will be instantaneous.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu


No one has voted.


A TRUE M&P GAME IS ON.

People looking for signalling cases is a bit suspect, right in the OP he said killers and town. No symp was mentioned at all.

Nothing has stood out to me at all, or nothing worth a mention.

https://38.media.tum...pjjrio1_400.gif

Since when is a symp mentioned?

According to Mafia Wiki

Normal Games

The Traitor (Symp on our forum) is a common and allowed for basic games. To assume that there is not a symp seems like a big stretch at any point.

He said there is no spoon, so no curve ball, just town and killers, if there were something else in the game then why just not say standard M and P? All he mentioned is town and killers so that is what I am going to play to. There's no point looking for something that may not be there.

[Barghast]

https://31.media.tum...pjjrio3_400.gif

[Nimander Golit]

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

He said there is no spoon, so no curve ball, just town and killers, if there were something else in the game then why just not say standard M and P? All he mentioned is town and killers so that is what I am going to play to. There's no point looking for something that may not be there.

Think maybe Barghast is trying to turn us off the idea of symps for a reason?