[Hood's Path]

Denul, on 26 June 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

Hood, on 26 June 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

I'm here.

Do you want to bother with looking through the thread for scum or just give up and assume that I am scum like Sukul, amp, and Barghast have done all day and get the game over with.

I've read through most of your pity party from yesterday (rl yesterday) and didn't find it amusing. I voted you game day yesterday when I thought there was two hours left. I find I'm still leaning that way. But I want to do a read through with fully caffienated eyes. 20 hours left is far too early to be lynching someone with a damn good reason.

[Hood's Path]

Ampelas, on 26 June 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Welcome back HP!

Once you have read up, I'd appreciate your thoughts on my questions to you

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1131297

I will do so. I'm going to get caffeine and nicotine but I'll be back within the hour.

[Hood's Path]

But B is easy: I've wanted a lynch. We've had so many games with so many no lynches that end up costing us the game. See SH, last game, and Sir Thursday's analysis of when town should only use the no lynch to buy time.

[Liosan]

I'm going to make my decision now. Amp, I've been suspicious of you for a while and your eagerness to hammer is suspicious. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

Vote Ampelas

[Ampelas]

Liosan, on 26 June 2014 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'm going to make my decision now. Amp, I've been suspicious of you for a while and your eagerness to hammer is suspicious. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

Vote Ampelas

I don't think you know what "eagerness to hammer" means when I refused to hammer and had barghast remove his vote so no one else could.

By the way, you are wrong

[Barghast]

I am around and just as I had thought before I had left, Denul would remove, vote Amp and HP would return. Anything else Liosan? Any reasons?

I am working on the premise that if we do end up lynching scum where we go next.

[Liosan]

I've outlined my suspicions on Amp already earlier on thread, cant quote it for you off phone...

Where we go next depends on who scum is. If its Amp, I'd say Nimander or Sukul, if its Denul, not sure really.

[Ampelas]

Barghast, on 26 June 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

I am around and just as I had thought before I had left, Denul would remove, vote Amp and HP would return. Anything else Liosan? Any reasons?

I am working on the premise that if we do end up lynching scum where we go next.

Any wrong move ends the game at this point

The most likely lynch at the moment is Denul, if he turns up scum we take a very close look at Liosan and HP, but I will be double checking his interactions with everyone in the game before barreling after anyone.

The other possibly lynch is me, at this point I know this ends the game, but for the benefit of completeness, if I CI'd scum Nimander and Sukul, or possibly Nimander and you come under fire.

In either event to me it seems to me like the lines are fairly evenly drawn

Ampelas, Nimander, Sukul, Barghast on one side
Denul, Liosan, Hood's Path on the other

[Denul]

Barghast, on 26 June 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

I am around and just as I had thought before I had left, Denul would remove, vote Amp and HP would return. Anything else Liosan? Any reasons?

I am working on the premise that if we do end up lynching scum where we go next.

That isn't the prise that you should be working on. You should be working on if we don't lynch scum then what do you do next. That is the correct scenario.

Right now I am wondering who AMP would suspect is scum if I come back as town.

[Hood's Path]

Shinrei said:

1403681202[/url]' post='1131268']
It is Day 4, 36 hours are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

No one has voted.

Shinrei said:

1403787449[/url]' post='1131563']
It is Day 4, 16 hours and 29 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
1 vote Ampelas: Denul

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path, Liosan

Shit. My iPad is fucking up the time stamps

[Denul]

Ampelas, on 26 June 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Barghast, on 26 June 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

I am around and just as I had thought before I had left, Denul would remove, vote Amp and HP would return. Anything else Liosan? Any reasons?

I am working on the premise that if we do end up lynching scum where we go next.

Any wrong move ends the game at this point

The most likely lynch at the moment is Denul, if he turns up scum we take a very close look at Liosan and HP, but I will be double checking his interactions with everyone in the game before barreling after anyone.

The other possibly lynch is me, at this point I know this ends the game, but for the benefit of completeness, if I CI'd scum Nimander and Sukul, or possibly Nimander and you come under fire.

In either event to me it seems to me like the lines are fairly evenly drawn

Ampelas, Nimander, Sukul, Barghast on one side
Denul, Liosan, Hood's Path on the other

So if I come back town then who do you suspect?

If you come back town I think that Nimander or Barghast and possibly Hood's path are scum. If Liosan is scum then he has me completely blinkered.

[Shinrei]

SORRY PEOPLE, I SUPER DOOFED THE TIMER. THIS SHOULD BE 6, not 16 hours left.

Shinrei, on 26 June 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

It is Day 4, 6 hours and 29 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
1 vote Ampelas: Denul

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path, Liosan

[Hood's Path]

Quote

Posted Yesterday, 03:26 AM

It is Day 4, 36 hours are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

No one has voted.


Posted Today, 08:57 AM

It is Day 4, 16 hours and 29 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
1 vote Ampelas: Denul

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path, Liosan

I'm still trying to wake up. Is my math off there or did something happen to extend the day?

[Hood's Path]

Shinrei said:

1403789449[/url]' post='1131576']
SORRY PEOPLE, I SUPER DOOFED THE TIMER. THIS SHOULD BE 6, not 16 hours left.

Shinrei said:

1403787449[/url]' post='1131563']
It is Day 4, 6 hours and 29 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
1 vote Ampelas: Denul

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path, Liosan

Ok. Sanity back. I thought it had lost a day. Either RL or game.

[Shinrei]

It is Day 4, 5 hours and 52 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
2 votes Ampelas: Denul, Liosan

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path

[Ampelas]

Denul, on 26 June 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 June 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Barghast, on 26 June 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

I am around and just as I had thought before I had left, Denul would remove, vote Amp and HP would return. Anything else Liosan? Any reasons?

I am working on the premise that if we do end up lynching scum where we go next.

Any wrong move ends the game at this point

The most likely lynch at the moment is Denul, if he turns up scum we take a very close look at Liosan and HP, but I will be double checking his interactions with everyone in the game before barreling after anyone.

The other possibly lynch is me, at this point I know this ends the game, but for the benefit of completeness, if I CI'd scum Nimander and Sukul, or possibly Nimander and you come under fire.

In either event to me it seems to me like the lines are fairly evenly drawn

Ampelas, Nimander, Sukul, Barghast on one side
Denul, Liosan, Hood's Path on the other

So if I come back town then who do you suspect?

If you come back town I think that Nimander or Barghast and possibly Hood's path are scum. If Liosan is scum then he has me completely blinkered.

I have nimander in the same place you have liosan, he just shines through and through as town to me, if he ends up scum well done him.

Liosan on the other hand, to me hasn't been playing as a great town. His links between both you and HP make him seem very scummy.

If you came up town I would actually have to say HP is the next likely target, no confrontation no content smooth sailing getting less active as the game progressing instead of more. afraid of giving something away? Contradicting earlir behavioural patterns?

Barghast is to me very likely to be town at this point, asking questions, trying to put the pieces together in a way that fits, obviously coming to a similar conclusion as me is a major plus for why I think he is town, though you will obviously disagree on that point.

Sukul is sukul, I mean jesus. Not wasting any more time there.


The problem I have at the moment, is that no matter how I read the thread with the idea "X is scum, do their actions and words make sense in that scenario?" you always come out way ahead.

[Barghast]

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

Well that was an exciting night.
way to be reaching for any excuse for a vote Pallid

Are you implying you don't think it's a good case? I'll have you know I considered all the evidence and decided it was the strongest one...

Having considered all the evidence (not really, I just skimmed)

Vote Hood's Path

Low posting scum.

Galayn votes Hood's Path

Denul makes 2 "cases" doesn't look vote on HP

Galayn then votes Liosan

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, since that case of Denul's basically refutes my reason for voting for him, I shall:

Remove Vote

I can see he's thinking along similar lines to my reasoning above in his case. But actually, the player who stood out a bit more to me was Barghast, particularly with this post:

Barghast, on 18 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

I'm not very good at small talk. However, this did make me laugh..

Which happened a full two hours after this post from Shinrei:

Shinrei, on 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is day 1, 15 hours and 10 minutes are left.

12 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Pallid
1 vote Hood's Path: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Note the underlined. We are short on time, and Barghast is cracking jokes with no indication that he's willing to engage his brain (even on the meagre evidence that had been presented up to that point).

Noting the underlined, does that post by Barghast stink of signalling or is it just me that thinks so?

HP, good of you to join us.

Remove Vote

On my phone so no complicated shit from me today.

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

Liosan on Pallid

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

Top 3 in order of most to least suspicious: are Galayn Lord, you(This is a mix of Amps case and some gut), then its a toss up after that, maybe Nimander i guess.

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

So we could lynch Barghast, where we'd have I think 5 votes possible right now, or Pallid, with 5 votes possible, or (my personal choice) Galayn Lord with 4 votes possible right now.

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

Correction, the ones with 5 votes become 6 with HP, and GL becomes 5 votes possible with HP

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 01:12 AM, said:

I'd rather lynch GL than Pallid or Barghy, so I'll take the lead on this. If no one agrees, so be it and I'll add to someone else to get a lynch later, but for now:

Vote Galayn Lord

Now is it just me, or does the day one turn of events keep coming back to me. There's a lot of people alive from day one that GL accused of and disliked

From my case before if I were to tie three players together than Liosan, HP and Denul can fit the bill.

two players together nimander and Amp fit the bill.

[Ampelas]

Shinrei, on 26 June 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

It is Day 4, 5 hours and 52 minutes are left in the day.

7 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

2 votes Denul: Sukul Ankhadu, Ampelas
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit
2 votes Ampelas: Denul, Liosan

Players not voting: Barghast, Hood's Path

Oh jesus christ.

At least almost everyone is on now

So, hmm. This speeds things up quite a bit!

[Hood's Path]

For the record, had I been online when Denul was at l1 I almost certainly would have hammered. He clearly, to me, is scum.
Before the day 3 GL lynch I went back to day 1. I dislike the way that Denul set up a Lio/GL link. I was thinking a Denul/Lio pairing made sense. With maybe Barghast as the possible third.
Now I'm less certain of that. Lio's uncertainty end of day and hammering GL would fit but not his following Denul today onto Ampelas.

[Barghast]

I have around 2 hours before I am gone for the day. I am still leaning towards Denul over any other alt, there's been nothing conclusive to vote elsewhere, there isn't a better case out there. If Amp is scum then I would want to look at a case and agree with it. It's not like the evidence is hard to find, I have mentioned how they acted when Kaschan got lynched.

From my pov that lynch could have went on either of them, I did not defend either of them, and said I would vote either way.

Nimander and Amp both were against the lynch, properly opposed to it and were trying to make people vote Kaschan.


That's the difference between the three of us and one of the reasons I did not follow Amp's vote earlier.

So you got Liosan and Denul acting suspicious, possibly trying to set up HP on day one for when people look back and see Denul defend / dislike the vote against HP and the storm that followed and how they both wanted to switch to GL.

It's all tied up, into those two groups. HP is either set up here, or is truly innocent.