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Mafia 109 - Gardens of the Moon

#701 User is offline   Eloth 

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:47 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 26 March 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

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View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

I've been guarded the past 3 nights. Either there is a real dumbfuck town out there, or the killer-in-waiting has a guard action until they get their kill.


Wait are you saying that your towns vig? So then did you kill Durnik?


I am projected to be very busy at work today. I don't know how often I will be on.


Sorry that should be so then did you kill Dujek not Durnik.



In fact, Dujek was lynched was he not? The whole Kalam assassinates Dujek is just from Tatts' scene. What a little mix-up you've got here.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:51 PM

It is day seven: 29 Hours 5 minutes remaining

5 players still alive; Alkend, Denul, Eloth, Korabas, Tiamatha,

3 votes to lynch, 2 votes to night

1 vote for Denul; (Korabas)



Players not voted; Alkend, Denul, Eloth, Korabas, Tiamatha,

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:52 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

By the way, Path-Shaper, I think your timer's off. I think we have like 7 hours more than in your last update. Hope you haven't been doing that throughout the game ;)



First time my friend. I think. 10am this day started. We are almost 7 hours in. Fixed the timer. I am doing it manually :p
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM

Also PS, Kessobahn is in your players not voted :p

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:54 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

Also PS, Kessobahn is in your players not voted :p


which is correct. He cannot vote if dead! ;)
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

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View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

2 out of 5 are scum. How hard can it be to lynch one? :p
Ok, for me, two of Korabas, Denul, and Tiam are scum. I'll need a read-through before voting, though, and that won't happen till tonight. If you are town, don't go voting before I come back!

Feel free to discuss though ;)


Why did you leave Alkend off of your list?



Mostly because of his reaction Galayn Lord's reveal way back in the day. I had suspected Alkend before then early on in the game. I admit I need a re-read of their posts, but out of the four of you, they are currently bottom of my list.



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View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

I've been guarded the past 3 nights. Either there is a real dumbfuck town out there, or the killer-in-waiting has a guard action until they get their kill.


Wait are you saying that your towns vig? So then did you kill Durnik?


I am projected to be very busy at work today. I don't know how often I will be on.



I didn't say I was a vig, I said I've been guarded the past three nights - which would include the night Dujek died. So I don't know why you said that or where you think you're going with that train of thought.



Ok guys, I put in far more effort than I am accustomed to this morning into RL work, and now I have the rest of the day off. Save me, Obi-Wan Eloth, I hear you cry. Well, I can finally commit fully to the game, and I intend to do my best to fuck it all up get the scum.


I have 3 minutes before I go into my demo. My train of thought was that if you killed Dujek and that there was a guard every night (assuming that scum wouldn't guard scum) then a town guard guarded the scum killer that night, but since there was a death he probably thought that he hadn't guarded scum. Thus had crossed that person off of his scum list. When in fact that person was scum. So if the town guard is still alive a reveal would let us lynch scum.

If you know that you have been guarded that is only the kind of information that you get when you have an night action. Now I am off.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:28 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

Also PS, Kessobahn is in your players not voted ;)


So is Korbas who voted. :p

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:09 PM

I am still here, rereading the whole thread, if the other two users currently on want to discuss. I've found some potentially interesting stuff so far, and I'll put everything up in a post when I'm done.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

Quick post because that's all I have time for.

Korabas just leaving a vote hanging in the wind, with seemingly no regard for the fact that it would take 2 scum to hammer, and me, knowing I am inno leaves only one conclusion. He is scum trying to bully a lynch.

vote Korabas


I know my play has been awful this game, but I came in knowing I was going to low post... not the best idea, and I won't do it again. This has been awful, and I have just been a distraction. Regardless, I now know Korabas is scum so This vote is safe. If you vote me off then scum win. Not sure what I can do to prove innocence. I do know if I was scum I wouldn't have been so indifferent to the thread. That being said, it looks like Eloth and Alkend are against me already, so things don't bode well. I really have no clue who Korabas' partner could be. Tiam maybe? Meh, I have to go now.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:44 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

I am still here, rereading the whole thread, if the other two users currently on want to discuss. I've found some potentially interesting stuff so far, and I'll put everything up in a post when I'm done.



I'm around, keeping an eye on things, so always willing to read some more thoughts! :p

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:50 PM

View PostKorabas, on 26 March 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

I am still here, rereading the whole thread, if the other two users currently on want to discuss. I've found some potentially interesting stuff so far, and I'll put everything up in a post when I'm done.



I'm around, keeping an eye on things, so always willing to read some more thoughts! :p



I'm halfway through my re-read.

Interesting to see this vote and counter-vote by you and Denul. Who argues better for their life? ;)

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:01 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 07:50 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 26 March 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

I am still here, rereading the whole thread, if the other two users currently on want to discuss. I've found some potentially interesting stuff so far, and I'll put everything up in a post when I'm done.



I'm around, keeping an eye on things, so always willing to read some more thoughts! :p



I'm halfway through my re-read.

Interesting to see this vote and counter-vote by you and Denul. Who argues better for their life? ;)



Well, his argument is basically OMGUS, whereas mine is that if he weren't scum, I don't see how he managed to slip the lynch yesterday as 2 scum could have piled on - even if Alkend is scum, that would still have left one other scum to pile on to get rid of Denul if I hadn't forgotten to vote before I went to bed. I was already suspicious of Denul, and meant to vote him yesterday, but that just screamed 'Denul's GOT to be scum' to me.

I could be wrong, and hey, watcha gonna do - if Denul IS town, then scum have won the game, they just need to get their shit together and vote one of us out.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

I'm taking a break for dinner, but should post everything I think in the next couple of hours or so.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:05 PM

Today has just been a fuckfest at work. Just one asshole shitting on me after another. I haven't had time to look at this thread much less make anything of anything. I might have a chance to look this evening, but I am most likely not going to be able to until tomorrow morning. Which should be fine because there is still an entire day left.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 10:59 PM

Aaaand done! Warning: Massive summary incoming. After that, a few summarisations based on the summary ( :p ), a couple of questions, and perhaps a conclusion or two.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:52 PM

First off, I'd like to say this is me standing on the shoulders of giants. Much of this comes from the diligent and tireless work of the sadly-departed Ansible, Gust, and Tapper.

Second off, please DO NOT just pay attention to the bolded parts.

Day 1:

- Light-hearted interaction between Monok Ochem and Denul.
- Galayn links MO and Denul.
- Alkend says is that all we have?
- Alkend puts out different case on Rikkter.
- Silchas is modkilled. Tiamatha suggests a no lynch.
- Korabas says we're close to timeout.
- Korabas votes Monok (2nd vote after GL with 9 needed, 4 and a half hours left on the clock).
- Tiam says my posts are middle-of-the road.

On the Lock train: Tiam (4th), me (7th), MO (8th).
Korabas is voting MO.
Alkend is on Rikkter.
Denul is not voting.

- Lock lynched, Rikkter dies.


Day 2:

- Alkend votes Denul.
- Denul 'completely understands' if he's going to be the lynch.
- Korabas thinks 3 scum is plenty, questions Kilava's thoughts of 4 scum.
- Denul also thinks 3 scum, agrees with Korabas. Accuses Kilava of sounding like having 'extra info.'
- Denul suspects Okaros.
- Denul suspects Ampelas.
- Denul agrees with Lock, who said there were opportunistic votes on his train. Denul also adds only 4 votes on Lock at the time he said that: Kilava, Kesso, Rikketer, and Tiamatha. Denul wants to add two more suspects to that list, Ampelas and Okaros. Of those 6, we know 5 are town.
- Korabas speculates single killer and two symps, then says thinks more likely paired killers.
- Slight agreement between Korabas and Denul on suspicion of Okaros.
- Denul agrees with inheritance mechanic brought up by Kilava. But then says perhaps it's two killers and a symp instead.
- Alkend still against Denul.
- Alkend agrees with GL on me being suspicious.
- Korabas does not like the Denul case by Alkend.
- Korabas says more likely 3 scum - again.
- Tiamatha corrects Korabas' maths, as does Bek.
- Denul continues suspicion of Okaros, hesitant to vote for GL.
- Denul backs off Okaros.
- Korabas mentions we're getting awfully close to timeout.
- Korabas doesn't like cases on Denul and myself, votes GL.
- I analyse Alkend and vote for them.
- Korabas thinks we have 40 minutes left, then corrects themselves to hour and a half.
- Tiam votes GL.
- Denul comes on, does not hammer GL immediately, says they will wait 12 minutes after which time they will either hammer or, if I say I am here, they won't do anything and let me hammer if need be.
- I mention that I'm still around.
- Alkend disbelieving of GL's reveal.
- No lynch. Kilava dies.

Day 3:

- GL votes Alkend.
- Alkend makes a case on Denul. Reasoning essentially the same as others who pointed out Denul's posts already.
- Alkend links Denul and Kessobahn.
- GL points out that Tiam questioned lynching on day 1 when MO was one of the likeliest to be lynched (albeit with 2 out of 9 votes needed).
- GL doubts that Alkend is scum, based on a reading of his overall play.
- GL's main suspects: MO, Tiam, Korabas.
- Bek Okhan points out that Korabas repeatedly failed basic maths, and that they repeat 3 scum several times, despite that their own maths should be telling them 4. Bek's intimation is that Korabas knows there are 3 scum and so has it stuck in his head.
- Korabas thinks that the death of Kilava was supposed to point us toward suspecting GL as some sort of scum finder, but they add that they, Korabas, are not fooled by this and consider GL to be VPI.
- Korabas is up for lynching either Tiam or Monok, and votes for Tiam.
- Only Korabas around near end of day 3, but refuses to change from Tiamatha.

- No lynch. GL dies.


Day 4:

- But then Korabas immediately votes for MO, straight after Bek.
- Tiam asks what the case on MO is.
- Interaction between Korabas and Tiam. Tiam asks questions about who might be conected to MO, Korabas says actually that would be you, Tiam. Tiam has a bit of a go at Korabas.
- Alkend says he'll play along and votes for MO.
- Tiam votes for MO, and says that's a shit connection between him and MO.
- Tiam wants to point out that scum want lynches as well as town, is resistant to the quick lynch on MO.
- I vote for MO, but also make it clear that I would rather vote elsewhere. Tiam asks me who and why. Tiam again has a go at Korabas.
- Denul hammers MO, saying it's ridiculous he's escaped being lynched on two separate occasions.
- Discussing the lynch scene, Tiam says looks like inherited kill then. Korabas says that they will have to look up who first mentioned that, as it might be a case of 'who smelt it, dealt it.' Tiam immediately does this and comes up with Kilava mentioning it first, but fails to add the response post by Denul to Kilava agreeing with the possibility of an inheritance mechanic.

- MO lynched. Ampelas dies.


Day 5:

- Alkend suspicious of Denul hammer.
-Alkend does train analysis, comes up with Kessobahn and Okral Lom as suspects.
- Alkend votes Okral Lom.
- Bek Okhan suggests that some townies know each other, such as Quick Ben & Kalam, Tattersail and Paran, possibly and obviously Hedge and Fiddler.
- Tiamatha suggests that with inherited kills there is potential for scum to get on trains early on, as the PI from that might be worth more than numbers.
- Bek votes Tiam.
- I vote Tiam.
- Bek points out that Tiam's post accusing symps of driving a quick lynch on MO means he's accusing Bek, Korabas, and Alkend (who voted before Tiam), and excludes Denul (who voted after Tiam).
- Tiam says that's exactly right, and adds Denul's name to that suspect list.
- Korabas says he's willing to believe that both Bek and Tiam are town.
- Tiam voices that he would like to vote for Kesso.
- Korabas points out that time is running out.
- Denul comes on, says he hasn't been paying attention, votes Okral but says he would swap to Tiam to get the lynch if necessary.
- Korabas says he wouldn't be opposed to voting Okral. If they turn up scum, could point at Alkend being scum (this despite the fact that Alkend is voting Okral).
- Tiam votes for Okral.
- Korabas votes for Okral.
- Bek hammers.
- Bek says next day priority will be Tiam, followed by Denul because of perceived drive-by vote.

- Okral Lom is lynched. Bek Okhan dies.


Day 6:

- Korabas says he feels Tiam is town.
- Tiam says he suspects scum is either Kesso or Alkend.
- Korabas suspects Okaros.
- Okaros suspects Korabas.
- Okaros changes mind, says looks more like Tiamatha fake-symping Korabas.
- Denul suspects Okaros. And Tiam. Thinks Alkend could be town.
- Okaros suggests Denul is trying to distance from Tiam, as the two have been linked by Bek.
- Alkend wants to vote either Tiam or Denul.
- Alkend says his top 3 suspects are: Tiam, Denul, me.
- Tiam argues with Alkend, says he suspects them.
- Alkend says I look PI because I removed vote from GL.
- Korabas suspects Tiam/Denul connection.
- Denul suggests voting for night.
- Tiam says Alkend could be scum CIing another scum (me).
- Tiam says Korabas is least likely to be scum.
- Korabas starts wavering on Tiam.
- But then again says they don't think Tiam is scum.
- Korabas suggests that I and Denul could be paired.
- Korabas suggests that they will vote for Denul. Again mentions there is little time left on the clock.
- Alkend votes Denul.
- Okaros votes Denul.

- No lynch. Okaros dies.


Day 7:

- I say I have been guarded the past 3 nights.
- Tiam suggests I am a vig and killed Dujek (who was lynched, not killed at night).
- Korabas votes Denul.
- Korabas believes I might be a vig (Kalam).
- Denul votes Korabas. Says Tiam might be Korabas' partner.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:55 PM

For Day 6, the reason I bolded Alkend mentioning I removed vote and this PIs me, is because it is wrong. Alkend (with Korabas echoing them) believes I removed my vote from Galayn Lord, but I did not. I removed my vote from Alkend, in readiness to hammer Galayn Lord. But then he fully revealed, and so I didn't.

I believe this is a genuine mistake on the part of Alkend, but at the same time that does not dismiss the fact that Alkend might be trying to butter me up.


Edit: And/or, indeed, Korabas trying the same.

This post has been edited by Eloth: 27 March 2014 - 12:43 AM


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:57 PM

Next thing: Both Tiamatha and Korabas make the suggestion that I am the vig, Kalam.

This suggests to me that neither of them are Kalam. So that's one townie those two are not. Indeed, that's two townies those two are not if we believe that I am not Kalam but rather one of the other two. Not saying yet either way, mind you.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:01 AM

Next next thing:

Bek brought up the idea of paired townies knowing each other in addition to those of Hedge and Fiddler. One pairing he brought up was Quick Ben and Kalam. Bek himself was Quick Ben. Does anyone here wish to come up with proof of a link with Bek?

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:19 AM

I see our users have fallen from 3 to just me. I see.

I shall be back in an hour or so.

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