[Andorion]

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It seems that Whiskeyjack's death was brought about by Hood and if not for the knee he could have actually finished Kallor off for good?

"Hood never forgave him for that, and took in the end a most satisfying vengeance, ever turning away a healer's touch when nothing else was needed, when that touch could have changed the world, could have shattered an age-old curse."

Is the QoD referring to Kallor by age old curse?

This post has been edited by Andorion: 16 February 2014 - 12:24 PM

[Aptorian]

First of all you want to edit you opening post so that the title doesn't contain any spoilers. Maybe rename it Kallor and Whiskeyjack or Kallor vs Whiskeyjack.

You are right in assuming the age old curse refers to Kallor, how ever it is unlikely that Whiskeyjack would have killed Kallor. He is pretty darn though. You saw him ignoring getting shot twice with crossbow bolts and he shrugged off Tayschrens magical attack. A sword through the chest piercing his heart might have ended him but it's hard to tell.

[Andorion]

 Maybe Apt, on 16 February 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

First of all you want to edit you opening post so that the title doesn't contain any spoilers. Maybe rename it Kallor and Whiskeyjack or Kallor vs Whiskeyjack.

You are right in assuming the age old curse refers to Kallor, how ever it is unlikely that Whiskeyjack would have killed Kallor. He is pretty darn though. You saw him ignoring getting shot twice with crossbow bolts and he shrugged off Tayschrens magical attack. A sword through the chest piercing his heart might have ended him but it's hard to tell.

Thanx for the title suggestion. Done.

I thought it was unlikely too but this statement coming from the QoD... what can kill Kallor? An Eleint? A Jaghut Tyrant? The Deragoth?

[Aptorian]

Well, no one has killed him yet so it's hard to tell. Decapitation? Cutting out his heart? Severe brain damage? It's hard to say really. He is for all intents and purposes immortal it would seem.

[Kanese S's]

 Andorion, on 16 February 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

 Maybe Apt, on 16 February 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

First of all you want to edit you opening post so that the title doesn't contain any spoilers. Maybe rename it Kallor and Whiskeyjack or Kallor vs Whiskeyjack.

You are right in assuming the age old curse refers to Kallor, how ever it is unlikely that Whiskeyjack would have killed Kallor. He is pretty darn though. You saw him ignoring getting shot twice with crossbow bolts and he shrugged off Tayschrens magical attack. A sword through the chest piercing his heart might have ended him but it's hard to tell.

Thanx for the title suggestion. Done.

I thought it was unlikely too but this statement coming from the QoD... what can kill Kallor? An Eleint? A Jaghut Tyrant? The Deragoth?

Being ripped apart and eaten by the Deragoth might do it. That's a nice thought, actually. They'd have to succeed in beating him in a fight, though. Being burned to a cinder might also work. Or getting his shit wrecked with elder sorcery and then his head bitten off by an Eleint. I'd like all of these things to happen, actually.

I think the nature of the curse isn't that he survives mortal wounds so much as things that would be fatal miss their mark just barely enough that he survives. Like he gets hit with crossbow bolts, but somehow they manage to avoid hitting any organs that would cause his death if punctured. Or sorcery isn't aimed quite right and he's only given a glancing blow.

[Andorion]

 Kanese S, on 17 February 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

 Andorion, on 16 February 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

 Maybe Apt, on 16 February 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

First of all you want to edit you opening post so that the title doesn't contain any spoilers. Maybe rename it Kallor and Whiskeyjack or Kallor vs Whiskeyjack.

You are right in assuming the age old curse refers to Kallor, how ever it is unlikely that Whiskeyjack would have killed Kallor. He is pretty darn though. You saw him ignoring getting shot twice with crossbow bolts and he shrugged off Tayschrens magical attack. A sword through the chest piercing his heart might have ended him but it's hard to tell.

Thanx for the title suggestion. Done.

I thought it was unlikely too but this statement coming from the QoD... what can kill Kallor? An Eleint? A Jaghut Tyrant? The Deragoth?

Being ripped apart and eaten by the Deragoth might do it. That's a nice thought, actually. They'd have to succeed in beating him in a fight, though. Being burned to a cinder might also work. Or getting his shit wrecked with elder sorcery and then his head bitten off by an Eleint. I'd like all of these things to happen, actually.

I think the nature of the curse isn't that he survives mortal wounds so much as things that would be fatal miss their mark just barely enough that he survives. Like he gets hit with crossbow bolts, but somehow they manage to avoid hitting any organs that would cause his death if punctured. Or sorcery isn't aimed quite right and he's only given a glancing blow.

I am pretty sure mortal wounds can be delivered. Remember how terrified Kallor got in MoI everytime Brood threatened him with his hammer, Rake with Dragnipur? A powerful ascendant could probably kill him. I am pretty sure Icarium could pulp him.

[Aptorian]

Brood's Hammer is a very powerful weapon.

So is dragnipur.

And Icarium is unstoppable.

Kallor is arrogant but he isn't stupid.

[Gothos]

Blood and Bone spoilers below

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being hit by all that shit - on purpose - and surviving still? think the bar for what can kill him should go up a notch or two in this thread

[Aptorian]

Blood and Bone spoilers.

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I was trying to avoid that event.

Even though osserc intercepted the "bomb" it still seems that Kallor should have been either incinerated or pulped to mush but he survived. So, it may be that the curse reacts to what ever deadly force Kallor faces but what ever the case it raises a lot of questions about Kallors "vulnerabilities".

[Tarthenal Theloman Toblakai]

I think that the curse can only be broken by the right individual. Kallor's curse is there to make him suffer, hence it being a curse. I think somebody like Whiskeyjack being an absolute legend as he is might well be the right kind of dude to end Kallor. The gods can't really act against Kallor as it isn't their way, and the other ascendants don't really seem to care. He fucks with mortals pretty much exclusively, maybe mortals have to kill him? Difficult no doubt, but doable IMO. The mortals of the Malazan universe are empowered, they have the power to slay gods, to change fate, to forge new and different paths. Maybe we will see, damn I hope we do, I hate Kallor!