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Posted 14 December 2013 - 02:18 PM
WOOT! Very excited about this. The first book satisfied me in a way I can't properly describe.
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 02:47 PM
2000 words that turn into 1200?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 03:01 PM
Not Brent Weeks, on 14 December 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:
2000 words that turn into 1200?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
For reference. The short piece that I have recently submitted to TOR when I first penned it clocked in around 10,000 words...and after about ten rounds of editing and a few proofreaders input...the final piece ended up at around 7,300. What I cut was mostly description, but I did cut out whole sections of story stuff that when I thought about it, was unneeded. So I can see that being the case for a novel.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
“Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone.” ~Ursula Vernon
“Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone.” ~Ursula Vernon
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:00 PM
Not Brent Weeks, on 14 December 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:
2000 words that turn into 1200?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Just an assumption. Books are rarely published longer than 1200 pages or so.
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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:07 PM
Not Brent Weeks, on 14 December 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:
2000 words that turn into 1200?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Is this the usual way editing goes? Cutting out almost half of the words you've written sounds crazy to me. Is it a case of the manuscript being chalked full of excessive descriptions, overly long conversations, too floury language, etc.? Or is he actually cutting out entire passages of story like, before editing our heroes goes to point C, D, E and F on their way from A to B, but after editing they only stop at C and D?
Pages, not words. Manuscript pages have less words on them than pages in published books do.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:41 AM
Not Brent Weeks, on 18 December 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:
How does one overlong?
I'm sure Karsa knows. His name among the whores of Lether was 'Karsa Overlong'.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 12:06 PM
Studlock, on 18 December 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:
So it's going to overlong again?
If the WAY OF KINGS was overlong...but I never found that to be the case. I enjoyed every last chapter.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
“Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone.” ~Ursula Vernon
“Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone.” ~Ursula Vernon
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:49 PM
I found it be bloated, with many of the chapters to be unneeded and repetitive but I also love Malazan so double-standard. I had thought it was going to slim down in the second book but alas.
Also apologies for the typo.
Also apologies for the typo.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 10:03 PM
Next time I get the chance I'm changing my username to Karsa O'erlong.
Maybe.
Maybe.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 10:10 PM
I thought the agreed alternative was Karsa Osoverylong?
meh. Link was dead :(
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:30 PM
Sanderson's best writing ever is that short story he did in Dangerous Women. It's absolutely top-notch writing and he'll likely never write like that again because all his Mormon-ish/less good stuff sells by the millions.
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Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:27 AM
I Am Brian Blessed Not Brent Weeks, on 18 December 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:
I thought the agreed alternative was Karsa Osoverylong?
Karsa Infinitelylong...? I'm beginning to wonder where does he keep all that hose without stumbling into it all the time? Wrapped into a compact ball like so much yarn? That sounds very uncomfortable.
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