[Jalan]

You really shouldn't just feed me lines like that Lock.

They're impossible to resist!

[Trake]

Man am I nailing the X-posts.

[Jalan]

What are you really expecting from a Lock lynch, though, Trake?

[Lock]

that's ok, Jalan - low hanging fruit for you

Anything constructive?

[Lock]

Trake thinks I'm inno, and is debating whether he wants to teach me a lesson since he doesn't feel like actually making cases on scum



If any body is getting lynched for not playing, it needs to be Cast, he only has 14 posts.

[Fanderay]

* Cue Cast complaining about not having enough time to read properly and offer his thoughts, and then voting Lock. Not necessarily in that order*

[Trake]

Jalan, on 29 October 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

What are you really expecting from a Lock lynch, though, Trake?

A scum CF?

Realistically I find it hard to present Lock as being someone's partner in particular, because he's been very uninvolved. It is very much a lynch based on his own play.

People are talking a lot about people coasting and trying to look like they're posting content without doing so. To me, Lock is the worst in regards to this, even though scum could easily be the 2nd or 3rd coastiest (is that a word?)...That's the problem with coasting behaviour, it let's people hide...

I would still be happy to lynch Fanderay. It clears up a source of distraction, late de-rails are suspicious, and there are more definite candidates for him as a member of a team. He definitely would've been a better lynch than Grasp...

[Trake]

Also I would ask you the same question Jalan, given you have voted him.

[Jalan]

Lock, on 29 October 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

that's ok, Jalan - low hanging fruit for you

Anything constructive?

Well frankly, you seem to have gotten into a hissy fit / meltdown today when you finally got called on coasting. If you supposedly coast like this every game, and the only defense you can think of is that you coast like this every game, what fucking good are you? Why do you even play mafia then? You might "win" if the rest of the town does all the work and you happen to be in the game, but frankly that's not really winning. Frankly, you're portraying yourself as useless ballast and not even trying to discourage us from jettisoning you out the fucking airlock.

Frankly if you are town, since it's potentially D-Day then if you are town you should be making some effort to not be lynched, because your team might lose immediately from lynching you. You're not making any such effort, so either you don't understand how to play mafia, you are deliberately playing it improperly and ruining the game for everyone else, or you are scum stupidly trying to bluff your way out of a lynch.

Frankly, I think the last option is unlikely but I don't have any other candidates that I'm sure of.

And frankly, if one of the other two options is correct I still want to lynch you for being an ass/idiot, and potentially scare you away from ruining future games. The integrity of this game has already been destroyed by MO being stupid and self-modkilling, Togg signing up when he had no time to play, and Tatts being... well Tatts. Why not make a principled vote one more time?

[Trake]

Lock, on 29 October 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Trake thinks I'm inno, and is debating whether he wants to teach me a lesson since he doesn't feel like actually making cases on scum



If any body is getting lynched for not playing, it needs to be Cast, he only has 14 posts.

Yeah, my play has been really marked by how I avoid making cases right

As for Cast, more posts isn't the same as more content. Indeed, if you've got far more posts than someone, and both have very little content, it just raises more questions really. Still, Cast is definitely suspicious. He has been middle of the road on several occasions (he agreed with Ultama's analysis but not his conclusions on ultama's rather odd case, for example), and very happy to go with the flow. But I would say the same of you. Indeed, he is probably stronger about it when he does state a suspicion.

[Trake]

Fanderay, on 29 October 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

* Cue Cast complaining about not having enough time to read properly and offer his thoughts, and then voting Lock. Not necessarily in that order*

Or you and Hanas hopping on and cackling maniacally for that matter.

[Jalan]

Trake, on 29 October 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

Jalan, on 29 October 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

What are you really expecting from a Lock lynch, though, Trake?

A scum CF?

Realistically I find it hard to present Lock as being someone's partner in particular, because he's been very uninvolved. It is very much a lynch based on his own play.

People are talking a lot about people coasting and trying to look like they're posting content without doing so. To me, Lock is the worst in regards to this, even though scum could easily be the 2nd or 3rd coastiest (is that a word?)...That's the problem with coasting behaviour, it let's people hide...

I would still be happy to lynch Fanderay. It clears up a source of distraction, late de-rails are suspicious, and there are more definite candidates for him as a member of a team. He definitely would've been a better lynch than Grasp...

Agreed on the partner bit, but it's hard to say if that is because he could be a killer trying to keep himself distanced or just an artifact of him coasting so much.

All my above reasons are true, but I do think given his hissy fit attitude today that he could truly be scum. The sudden jump into defending himself when he wasn't really getting a ton of pressure, and even when he didn't seem to have any good defenses to actually present, makes me suspicious. If he was an RI, why jump to defend himself so much? If he's RI and loves coasting so much he should hardly have cared about a bit of pressure, not gotten all snippy about it.

So I actually think he could be scum. Not 100% sure if I think he's more likely symp or killer.

I really hope killer, because if he's symp I have no goddamn clue who he's been trying to symp with his playstyle...

[Trake]

Also as defences go "Hey, this guy is equally useless but in a smaller number of posts" is just woeful.

[Ghennan]

I'll vote Lock if we get some consensus on him, because his play is annoying and unhelpful. He's actively resisting making any effort whatsoever, or even just posting a vote.

The thing is, though, his lynch doesn't really serve any purpose unless we actually think he is scum. If it's just because he's annoying, then it's just a waste on what is potentially D-day. He doesn't have any connections to anyone, so we wouldn't get anything useful out of his lynch even if it wasn't D-day.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 1 hours and 22 minutes remaining.

7 players alive: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Trake

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


2 votes Lock (Trake, Jalan)
1 vote Fanderay (Ghennan)
1 vote Ghennan (Hanas)


Players not voted: Cast, Fanderay, Lock

[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 29 October 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

Lock, on 29 October 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

that's ok, Jalan - low hanging fruit for you

Anything constructive?

Well frankly, you seem to have gotten into a hissy fit / meltdown today when you finally got called on coasting. If you supposedly coast like this every game, and the only defense you can think of is that you coast like this every game, what fucking good are you? Why do you even play mafia then? You might "win" if the rest of the town does all the work and you happen to be in the game, but frankly that's not really winning. Frankly, you're portraying yourself as useless ballast and not even trying to discourage us from jettisoning you out the fucking airlock.

Frankly if you are town, since it's potentially D-Day then if you are town you should be making some effort to not be lynched, because your team might lose immediately from lynching you. You're not making any such effort, so either you don't understand how to play mafia, you are deliberately playing it improperly and ruining the game for everyone else, or you are scum stupidly trying to bluff your way out of a lynch.

Frankly, I think the last option is unlikely but I don't have any other candidates that I'm sure of.

And frankly, if one of the other two options is correct I still want to lynch you for being an ass/idiot, and potentially scare you away from ruining future games. The integrity of this game has already been destroyed by MO being stupid and self-modkilling, Togg signing up when he had no time to play, and Tatts being... well Tatts. Why not make a principled vote one more time?

I'm sorry, you've used "frankly" too many times. lock won't read this post, because it "read BS",

[Lock]

Trake, on 29 October 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Also as defences go "Hey, this guy is equally useless but in a smaller number of posts" is just woeful.

seen it work before

[Fanderay]

Ghennan, on 29 October 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

I'll vote Lock if we get some consensus on him, because his play is annoying and unhelpful. He's actively resisting making any effort whatsoever, or even just posting a vote.

The thing is, though, his lynch doesn't really serve any purpose unless we actually think he is scum. If it's just because he's annoying, then it's just a waste on what is potentially D-day. He doesn't have any connections to anyone, so we wouldn't get anything useful out of his lynch even if it wasn't D-day.

One of Lock and Cast is scum, imho.

My other suspect is you, so that's not helping with a consensus, I'm afraid.

[Ghennan]

Also, I didn't see Lock's posting as being particularly defensive, just winding people up for shits and giggles. I'm not sure if it makes him more or less scummy.

[Path-Shaper]

Jalan, on 29 October 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

Lock, on 29 October 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

that's ok, Jalan - low hanging fruit for you

Anything constructive?

Well frankly, you seem to have gotten into a hissy fit / meltdown today when you finally got called on coasting. If you supposedly coast like this every game, and the only defense you can think of is that you coast like this every game, what fucking good are you? Why do you even play mafia then? You might "win" if the rest of the town does all the work and you happen to be in the game, but frankly that's not really winning. Frankly, you're portraying yourself as useless ballast and not even trying to discourage us from jettisoning you out the fucking airlock.

Frankly if you are town, since it's potentially D-Day then if you are town you should be making some effort to not be lynched, because your team might lose immediately from lynching you. You're not making any such effort, so either you don't understand how to play mafia, you are deliberately playing it improperly and ruining the game for everyone else, or you are scum stupidly trying to bluff your way out of a lynch.

Frankly, I think the last option is unlikely but I don't have any other candidates that I'm sure of.

And frankly, if one of the other two options is correct I still want to lynch you for being an ass/idiot, and potentially scare you away from ruining future games. The integrity of this game has already been destroyed by MO being stupid and self-modkilling, Togg signing up when he had no time to play, and Tatts being... well Tatts. Why not make a principled vote one more time?

Oh man, if only I was Lock - I know exactly how to respond to this!

(I mean in terms of a joke, not serious play, before you all get paranoid!)