[Jalan]

so have we been played or just idiots or genuine misinterpretation of events?

[Hanas]

Now to continue on and look at who helped to flip the train from Rashan to Driss

Hanas, on 02 August 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

At this point the vote count is

2 Vote for D'riss ( Barghast, Rashan, )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
5 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Trake, Alkend, Galain, Kalsse )
3 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros, Kalse )

Kalse, on 02 August 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

Vote Shenanigans?

Remove Vote

Vote D'riss

3 Vote for D'riss ( Barghast, Rashan, Driss)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
4 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Trake, Alkend, Galain, )
3 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros, Kalse )

At this point any of Alkend, Driss or Rashan are a viable lynch.

Trake, on 02 August 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

remove vote
Vote Driss

Korbas, on 02 August 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

Ugh, it's Friday night. Lucky I got on at all.

vote rashan

I'm happy with either lynch at this stage. I can change to get a lynch, but I think we'll be lucky to get to that point.

4 Vote for D'riss ( Barghast, Rashan, Driss, Trake)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
4 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Alkend, Galain, Korbas )
3 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros, Kalse )

Galain, on 02 August 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

Sounds the only workable solution and if we get enough on then it verifies which mechanic is in use.

Remove Vote

Vote D'riss

Because it is the only one with a chance of carrying through at the moment.

As we can see above it was Trake and Galain that basically flipped the train to Driss. Galain says that Driss is the only one with a chance of carrying through. But if people had looked at the votes they would have seen that was incorrect. Until Trake and Galain removed there votes Rashan was the most likely lynch.

Now some of this is the poor vote counting by ps but even with that people where posting that so and so had really voted for Rashan or driss. So that is bullshit also. When you add that to the "Reveal " that Reshan said. Then tried to unsay. The fact that several players mentioned his statement as a reveal and he did not correct them means that regardless of what he says now he meant for that statement to be construed as a reveal statement and used it to get out of a lynch.

Vote for Rashan

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 31 hours and 34 minutes remaining
14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Rashan ( Hanas )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 August 2013 - 02:54 PM

[Rashan]

Vote Rashan


Because I seriously suck and I have to die to clear the waters.

I was a vig , who has an ability that would have unlocked under special circumstances. I vigged Kalse last night because I was pretty sure I wouldn't survive today and he had just bumped up to my prime suspect.

[Hanas]

Jalan, on 02 August 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

so have we been played or just idiots or genuine misinterpretation of events?

Combination I am sure.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 31 hours and 29 minutes remaining
14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Rashan ( Hanas, Rashan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 August 2013 - 02:55 PM

[Hanas]

I want to hear from Galain and Trake. They both had their votes on Rashan and a quick count would have shown that he was the prime lynch candidate yesterday. Then they both removed and made Driss the only option.


So Rashan you are claiming vig and saying that you killed Kalse. Which if we believed you would mean that there where no scum kills for the second time this game.

Night 1 no scum kills
Night 2 Two scum kills one from each town faction
night 3 Claimed vig kill, no scum kills


Either scum have to wait a full day to kill or people where right that they can only hit people at specific locations. If they aren't targeting someone whom castle they are facing the kills don't go through.

[Hanas]

Those are my thoughts right now. I have to go.

[Alkend]

Rashan, on 02 August 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Vote Rashan


Because I seriously suck and I have to die to clear the waters.

I was a vig , who has an ability that would have unlocked under special circumstances. I vigged Kalse last night because I was pretty sure I wouldn't survive today and he had just bumped up to my prime suspect.

Why did he get bumped up there?
Also, this isn't personal, but I have to vote you for that reveal.
Vote Rashan

[Barghast]

Rashan, on 02 August 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Vote Rashan


Because I seriously suck and I have to die to clear the waters.

I was a vig , who has an ability that would have unlocked under special circumstances. I vigged Kalse last night because I was pretty sure I wouldn't survive today and he had just bumped up to my prime suspect.

so, our vig hit our BP? priceless.

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 02 August 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

Rashan, on 02 August 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Vote Rashan


Because I seriously suck and I have to die to clear the waters.

I was a vig , who has an ability that would have unlocked under special circumstances. I vigged Kalse last night because I was pretty sure I wouldn't survive today and he had just bumped up to my prime suspect.

so, our vig hit our BP? priceless.

What?

[Path-Shaper]

Reminder:

MODKILL IS FROZEN OVER THE WEEKEND - starting tomorrow morning for me (Friday night for 'Mercans.)

Game clock WILL NOT BE FROZEN. All resolutions will take place as normal.

Come Monday, I will start the modkill timer again where it was last left off. If you are worried about the timing, send me a PM and I will (per the standard rules) allow modkill extensions depending on the circumstances.

It is Day 4. 31 hours remaining
14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Rashan ( Hanas, Rashan, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 August 2013 - 02:55 PM

[Barghast]

Rashan, on 02 August 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Barghast, on 02 August 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

Rashan, on 02 August 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Vote Rashan


Because I seriously suck and I have to die to clear the waters.

I was a vig , who has an ability that would have unlocked under special circumstances. I vigged Kalse last night because I was pretty sure I wouldn't survive today and he had just bumped up to my prime suspect.

so, our vig hit our BP? priceless.

What?

I'm inclined to think you're not scum. So I trust that you were a vig.

You say you targetted kalse, kalse didn't die. The easiest solution would be that he had a BP. (obv you may have been guarded/ kalse may have been healed), but the most disastrous scenario for town is that you've wasted kalse's BP, and now revealed him to scum. Going off WCS, i'm assuming that's what happened.

Anyhow, that's bad news. Let's wait for more people to pipe up. I'll hammer you if needed, but not gonna vote anytime soon.

[Path-Shaper]

Goddamit

Believe it or not, I NEVER use mafia manager, but have always modded "by hand". This time I am, and for some reason I assumed that lynch votes removed the person automatically.

I have edited the updates.

Kalse is dead....

What the fuck's the matter with me today.

[Barghast]

Path-Shaper, on 02 August 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Goddamit

Believe it or not, I NEVER use mafia manager, but have always modded "by hand". This time I am, and for some reason I assumed that lynch votes removed the person automatically.

I have edited the updates.

Kalse is dead....

What the fuck's the matter with me today.

welp, there goes that theory,

[Barghast]

whose name was there earlier? my brain's melting @ work right now. Time to do some client calls.

[Trake]

Hanas, on 02 August 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Now looking that back I can see that I was correct and that there was resistance to the Rashan lynch. He was ahead if people bothered to count the numbers. The switch to Driss was done with out reason and just because. If with just under an hour left to get a lynch then Rashan should have been the choice. PS did mess up the trains however that does not refute the fact that Rashan had the most votes. The votes that PS didn't show where on Rashan so then people removed from him saying voting shenanigans and then voted for Driss. That makes no sense what so ever. If there are voting shenanigans then continue to vote for the person where the shenanigans are happening. But people didn't. Instead the changed to Driss. There was no real case for the switch to driss and the first several votes on to her didn't state a reason. That to me is resistance to the Rashan lynch.

Are you a downie? I have to ask, cuz you think like one. Aren't you the one that's already complained about people reading timestamps? In the half hour period that I had to post this morning we had several PS updates and then he disappeared leaving behind an incorrect vote count. This being AFTER 3 people have pointed out that the previous count was also incorrect. Thus we could only assume PS was telling us the count was correct and our votes no longer affected Rashan. So we tried switching to D'riss, another viable candidate at the time, to see if he'd count those votes. By the time PS came back I was at work and there weren't enough people to lynch without Rashan's vote, so he was more or less ruled out as an option. Now, do we need to repeat anything, or do you get it now?

[Hanas]

Trake, on 02 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Hanas, on 02 August 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Now looking that back I can see that I was correct and that there was resistance to the Rashan lynch. He was ahead if people bothered to count the numbers. The switch to Driss was done with out reason and just because. If with just under an hour left to get a lynch then Rashan should have been the choice. PS did mess up the trains however that does not refute the fact that Rashan had the most votes. The votes that PS didn't show where on Rashan so then people removed from him saying voting shenanigans and then voted for Driss. That makes no sense what so ever. If there are voting shenanigans then continue to vote for the person where the shenanigans are happening. But people didn't. Instead the changed to Driss. There was no real case for the switch to driss and the first several votes on to her didn't state a reason. That to me is resistance to the Rashan lynch.

Are you a downie? I have to ask, cuz you think like one. Aren't you the one that's already complained about people reading timestamps? In the half hour period that I had to post this morning we had several PS updates and then he disappeared leaving behind an incorrect vote count. This being AFTER 3 people have pointed out that the previous count was also incorrect. Thus we could only assume PS was telling us the count was correct and our votes no longer affected Rashan. So we tried switching to D'riss, another viable candidate at the time, to see if he'd count those votes. By the time PS came back I was at work and there weren't enough people to lynch without Rashan's vote, so he was more or less ruled out as an option. Now, do we need to repeat anything, or do you get it now?

I am sorry did you not see me go over the entire train and posts for yesterday. I stand by my statements. The fact of the matter is you switched votes. You did not say why. You switched to Driss. You did not say hey PS you didn't count my vote on Rashan and then vote again for him. Which is what usually happens when PS misses a vote. You instead along with Galain switched your votes to Driss thereby completely killing the train. Now you can say that it was PS fault. But in the end you switched the votes and didn't revote for Rashan or wait for PS to fully awake and figure out the correct vote count. So do you get it now.

[Trake]

My lunch is almost over and my phone is almost dead. Since there's lots of time I won't vote until I get home. I advocate a Mockra Lynch, for the reasons I laid out yesterday. Also, even if he's not scum he's a bottom barrel low poster in a slow posting game. That's always a late game recipe for disaster.

[Trake]

Hanas, on 02 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Trake, on 02 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Hanas, on 02 August 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Now looking that back I can see that I was correct and that there was resistance to the Rashan lynch. He was ahead if people bothered to count the numbers. The switch to Driss was done with out reason and just because. If with just under an hour left to get a lynch then Rashan should have been the choice. PS did mess up the trains however that does not refute the fact that Rashan had the most votes. The votes that PS didn't show where on Rashan so then people removed from him saying voting shenanigans and then voted for Driss. That makes no sense what so ever. If there are voting shenanigans then continue to vote for the person where the shenanigans are happening. But people didn't. Instead the changed to Driss. There was no real case for the switch to driss and the first several votes on to her didn't state a reason. That to me is resistance to the Rashan lynch.

Are you a downie? I have to ask, cuz you think like one. Aren't you the one that's already complained about people reading timestamps? In the half hour period that I had to post this morning we had several PS updates and then he disappeared leaving behind an incorrect vote count. This being AFTER 3 people have pointed out that the previous count was also incorrect. Thus we could only assume PS was telling us the count was correct and our votes no longer affected Rashan. So we tried switching to D'riss, another viable candidate at the time, to see if he'd count those votes. By the time PS came back I was at work and there weren't enough people to lynch without Rashan's vote, so he was more or less ruled out as an option. Now, do we need to repeat anything, or do you get it now?

I am sorry did you not see me go over the entire train and posts for yesterday. I stand by my statements. The fact of the matter is you switched votes. You did not say why. You switched to Driss. You did not say hey PS you didn't count my vote on Rashan and then vote again for him. Which is what usually happens when PS misses a vote. You instead along with Galain switched your votes to Driss thereby completely killing the train. Now you can say that it was PS fault. But in the end you switched the votes and didn't revote for Rashan or wait for PS to fully awake and figure out the correct vote count. So do you get it now.

Shin lives in Japan. He was wide awake, in fact it was getting late for him. You, sir, are not very good at thinking, or at reading, or, I have to assume, at living. You treat the entire situation from a hindsight perspective. There was no hindsight at the time, there was a distinct lack of information and a crucial lack of minutes. All we knew was PS put up 3 identical updates even after numerous votes. There are no other ways to say it. I'm not going to try and explain this to you anymore. I just don't have the time, not the interest in coaching a 2nd retard through their day.