[Jalan]

now what

[Kalse]

Tellan, on 02 August 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

So here's D'riss summarized this game:


He mentions recruiting, which gets promptly shot down and causes the conflict between him and Lio.
He OMGUS votes Lio for Introducing WIFOM on thread after lio votes him for the recruitment comment.
He has a snarky to Lio
He leaves his vote on for a while, but the removes it, and goes on to vote Desra a bit later.
He says he sees merit in an Alkend lynch, but doesn't vote, instead asking for other options. Noncommital
He's gone for a while, but returns in time to drop a drive by vote on Cast
When he gets back, he agrees with Okaros, and proceeds to actually vote Alkend, but calls Rashan suspicious.
He reiterates his alkend suspicions, but backs off after Alkend's response to him.

I'm noticing a pattern here. He sets up a main target and looks for or finds a backup(i.e. Alkend/Rashan, Alkend/looking for another target), staying relatively noncommital votewise. He seems to have tried to go under the radar after the Lio spat. This could be scum trying to not be noticed after the Lio stuff and subsequent NK of Lio, which may have been him trying to take out someone who went after him, but NK analysis does not a good case make. In all honesty, D'riss has acted scummily this game, but not (imo) egregiously so. That actually makes someone seems scummier to me, because scum would be aware of what is scummy, and try to avoid it. His playstyle is scummy enough to be noticeable, but not so much so as to convince me that no sane scum would play that way, and make him less suspicious. There's not enough evidence there to convince me thoroughly as to him being scum, but I know for sure I'll at least keep an eye on him.

[Path-Shaper]

My mess up coming before time out was compounded by neighbors coming by and inviting us out to a neighborhood festival. We went for about a half hour, so I missed the hubbub that I created by missing those votes (I did that time update in a hurry since I was heading out the door).

It's only fair to everyone to extend the timer for the lost hour of time.

[Galain]

Okay, hands up if you're still around, lets see if we can get a lynch on either target

[Jalan]

I'm around

[Kalse]

I'm around. I think we can only get to eight.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 51 minutes since time out. There are 39 minutes of time extension left.


16 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for D'riss ( Barghast, Trake, Kalse, Galain, Korbas, Jalan )
2 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Alkend,)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros )

Players not voted: Anthras, D'riss, Hanas, Rashan, Tellan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

[Kalse]

Korbas vote should be on D'riss PS.

[Galain]

Kalse, on 02 August 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

I'm around. I think we can only get to eight.

We're all on the train already though so it stays where it is

[D'riss]

OK, it's my day off and I just woke up. My first thought is WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE VOTING ME? Let me read up.

[Barghast]

I'm around, just got to work. I'm a full hour early, so can be around basically all of the next half hour.

[Tellan]

Whoah. I just woke up, and I'm glad shin added time. I thought we had an extra hour.

Vote D'riss

[Galain]

With 5 of us around (Galain, Jalan, Kalse, D'riss, Barghast) we can take the Rashan or Alkend trains to 7 or leave D'riss at 6 (excluding a self-vote) I'm open to suggestions at this point, if someone wants to make a stand against either of them I'll swing in the hopes of getting a lynch. We still need another 2 players or 3 without a selfy on D'riss to get a lynch though.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 61 minutes since time out. There are 29 minutes of time extension left.


16 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for D'riss ( Barghast, Trake, Kalse, Galain, Korbas, Jalan, Tellan )
2 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Alkend,)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros )

Players not voted: Anthras, D'riss, Hanas, Rashan

[Galain]

Okay, 7 potential for Rashan/Alkend and 8 for D'riss if they'll seppuku.

D'riss, if another vote goes down against you will you self-vote to secure the lynch?

[D'riss]

Kalse, on 02 August 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Tellan, on 02 August 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

So here's D'riss summarized this game:


He mentions recruiting, which gets promptly shot down and causes the conflict between him and Lio.
He OMGUS votes Lio for Introducing WIFOM on thread after lio votes him for the recruitment comment.
He has a snarky to Lio
He leaves his vote on for a while, but the removes it, and goes on to vote Desra a bit later.
He says he sees merit in an Alkend lynch, but doesn't vote, instead asking for other options. Noncommital
He's gone for a while, but returns in time to drop a drive by vote on Cast
When he gets back, he agrees with Okaros, and proceeds to actually vote Alkend, but calls Rashan suspicious.
He reiterates his alkend suspicions, but backs off after Alkend's response to him.

I'm noticing a pattern here. He sets up a main target and looks for or finds a backup(i.e. Alkend/Rashan, Alkend/looking for another target), staying relatively noncommital votewise. He seems to have tried to go under the radar after the Lio spat. This could be scum trying to not be noticed after the Lio stuff and subsequent NK of Lio, which may have been him trying to take out someone who went after him, but NK analysis does not a good case make. In all honesty, D'riss has acted scummily this game, but not (imo) egregiously so. That actually makes someone seems scummier to me, because scum would be aware of what is scummy, and try to avoid it. His playstyle is scummy enough to be noticeable, but not so much so as to convince me that no sane scum would play that way, and make him less suspicious. There's not enough evidence there to convince me thoroughly as to him being scum, but I know for sure I'll at least keep an eye on him.

OK, thanks for summarizing Tellan (end sarcasm font)
1) Lio had a snarky with me first. So I voted him back. I removed because it wasn't a serious vote. The snarky as you called it, occurred BEFORE the omgus.
2) Day 1, I said I DID NOT see merit in an Alkend lynch. The initial case was based on Alkend being helpful and defending me. I was more interested in Desra for being so specific on game mechanics.
3) I'm gone for a while. I usually work and like to sleep 8 hours a night. I did not DROP a vote on Cast. I found Cast's reveal suspicious since he said that he could verify Alkend, but Alkend wouldn't verify him back.
4) Day 3 I saw merit in an Alkend lynch (still do). I find the fact that he gave us a reveal that he can't corroborate very scummy. I removed vote because he was at 3 with 18? (I don't have time to look up the exact amount of time) hours to go. I didn't want us to get into a position of speed lynching him and wanted to hear more input.
5) Rashan's play is suspicious.

[Kalse]

Mass co ordination, I think Alkend should be cleared up and then we can see others who supported him. Everyone can vote Alkend and we'll get a better lynch than a last grasp D'riss one.

[Rashan]

Vote D'riss

[Galain]

Kalse, on 02 August 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Mass co ordination, I think Alkend should be cleared up and then we can see others who supported him. Everyone can vote Alkend and we'll get a better lynch than a last grasp D'riss one.

Alkend has had 2 alts come out and say he's town, I'm not really inclined towards an Alkend lynch right now.

[D'riss]

Kalse, on 02 August 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Mass co ordination, I think Alkend should be cleared up and then we can see others who supported him. Everyone can vote Alkend and we'll get a better lynch than a last grasp D'riss one.

I agree.