[Mentalist]

 twelve, on 13 August 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

 twelve, on 13 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

goddamn Lish. Vengy, what were you thinking, NOT vigging him?

The vig still would have failed as Lish wasn't at whichever castle Vengy was at.

so you're saying Lish was unguardeable AND unkillable?

if so, I call BS. Scum was OP.

He was guardable and killable once he moved to a castle. He was an auxillary character out of reach until he took over for a side. He couldn't do anything to town either until then if I recall.

except waste our guards, provide us with fake info, and get Cast killed. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

[Mentalist]

 Ganoes Paran, on 13 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

I fingered Alkend like a good boy.

And EM vigged you for your efforts.

[Mentalist]

Ok, so now my new hope is, they vote off Galain and Miura loses

[Mentalist]

 D, on 13 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Brujah killing himself is hilarious. That's card-worthy bizarre, IMO.

Well done Lisheo at stringing town along on your fake reveal. Unverifiable fake reveals are tough to pull off but you did. I still think you being so coy with it at first was scummy, but you had a good follow-up when I called you on it. I still don't get why Tapper said he verified it though, that was the biggest turning point for us accepting the reveal.

I hereby nominate him for Suicidal Townie of HHM

[Gnaw]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. except waste our guards,
2. provide us with fake info,
3. and get Cast killed.
4. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

1 == guard's problem
2 == I'm shocked. Somebody supplied fake info in a mafia game?? Shame.
3 == I think other factors were involved. For example: 10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)
4 == Fairly standard SH response to death.

[Khellendros]

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. except waste our guards,
2. provide us with fake info,
3. and get Cast killed.
4. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

1 == guard's problem
2 == I'm shocked. Somebody supplied fake info in a mafia game?? Shame.
3 == I think other factors were involved. For example: 10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)
4 == Fairly standard SH response to death.

lol

[Gnaw]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Ok, so now my new hope is, they vote off Galain and Miura loses

That's a Shin issue. Others have brought it up. As it stands now though, Miura town shares win with Alkend.

[D'rek]

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

 D, on 13 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

I still don't get why Tapper said he verified it though, that was the biggest turning point for us accepting the reveal.

Tapper said he did?

I mean PB (mixed up Gait and Cast)

[Mentalist]

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. except waste our guards,
2. provide us with fake info,
3. and get Cast killed.
4. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

1 == guard's problem
2 == I'm shocked. Somebody supplied fake info in a mafia game?? Shame.
3 == I think other factors were involved. For example: 10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)
4 == Fairly standard SH response to death.

1 no shit. except we were guarding fucking scum. And I refuse to be told how to play a guard properly after this game. By anyone.
2 His role was set up so as to fuck with guard/finds.
3 PB was a low-poster. I stand by my pre-his-meltdown-in-defense-of-Alkend vote. Day 2 with 2 posts was terrible play.
I do wanna know WHY on earth eh thought that Alkend saying he was in Arai was true, AFTER he was told his guard target failed?
4 True. it's also a pretty standard response to knowledge that you've played a decent game, but it's all for naught b/c of smth you couldn't know about and control.

[Mentalist]

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Ok, so now my new hope is, they vote off Galain and Miura loses

That's a Shin issue. Others have brought it up. As it stands now though, Miura town shares win with Alkend.

Lish and Shinshin are both listed for this fiasco. Oh, yes.

[Khellendros]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. except waste our guards,
2. provide us with fake info,
3. and get Cast killed.
4. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

1 == guard's problem
2 == I'm shocked. Somebody supplied fake info in a mafia game?? Shame.
3 == I think other factors were involved. For example: 10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)
4 == Fairly standard SH response to death.

1 no shit. except we were guarding fucking scum. And I refuse to be told how to play a guard properly after this game. By anyone.
2 His role was set up so as to fuck with guard/finds.
3 PB was a low-poster. I stand by my pre-his-meltdown-in-defense-of-Alkend vote. Day 2 with 2 posts was terrible play.
I do wanna know WHY on earth eh thought that Alkend saying he was in Arai was true, AFTER he was told his guard target failed?
4 True. it's also a pretty standard response to knowledge that you've played a decent game, but it's all for naught b/c of smth you couldn't know about and control.

D'rek did bring up the idea of an inheritance mechanic at least, but unfortunately no one followed through on that thinking.

[Mentalist]

Morg45 had a very decent game. If Lish is still alive next night, he might take a look at him....

although equally likely he'll go for Gait.


Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit.

[Khellendros]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Morg45 had a very decent game. If Lish is still alive next night, he might take a look at him....

although equally likely he'll go for Gait.


Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit.

And you may get your wish. Trake is against voting Korbas and wants to go for Galain. Korbas is likely to side with that (as it would mean they wouldn't be lynched), and then Alkend will simply vote that way too, if Gait does not.

Of course, that's really wonderful for scum, as the only way for Alkend to kill Galain and get a full victory is through a lynch.

[Gnaw]

"Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit. "
I won't. Shin might. More likely he'll put it into the scene.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 13 August 2013 - 05:03 PM

[Mentalist]

 Khellendros, on 13 August 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

 Gnaw, on 13 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. except waste our guards,
2. provide us with fake info,
3. and get Cast killed.
4. FUUUUUUUUUU...............

1 == guard's problem
2 == I'm shocked. Somebody supplied fake info in a mafia game?? Shame.
3 == I think other factors were involved. For example: 10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)
4 == Fairly standard SH response to death.

1 no shit. except we were guarding fucking scum. And I refuse to be told how to play a guard properly after this game. By anyone.
2 His role was set up so as to fuck with guard/finds.
3 PB was a low-poster. I stand by my pre-his-meltdown-in-defense-of-Alkend vote. Day 2 with 2 posts was terrible play.
I do wanna know WHY on earth eh thought that Alkend saying he was in Arai was true, AFTER he was told his guard target failed?
4 True. it's also a pretty standard response to knowledge that you've played a decent game, but it's all for naught b/c of smth you couldn't know about and control.

D'rek did bring up the idea of an inheritance mechanic at least, but unfortunately no one followed through on that thinking.

Oh, that part i'm fine with.

it's the "I did a find on this guy and he makes a reveal that checks out, but oh, wait his entire role was such as to make sure I get wrong results"-part that irks me. And yes, I realize it's stupid. B/c if I was a finder and did a find on a regular symp pre-inheritance, it'd be the exact same situation, mechanics-wise. But the fact that he pulled off a reveal like that, AND got a guard to suicide in the process... that just angers me.

[Mentalist]

 Khellendros, on 13 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Morg45 had a very decent game. If Lish is still alive next night, he might take a look at him....

although equally likely he'll go for Gait.


Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit.

And you may get your wish. Trake is against voting Korbas and wants to go for Galain. Korbas is likely to side with that (as it would mean they wouldn't be lynched), and then Alkend will simply vote that way too, if Gait does not.

Of course, that's really wonderful for scum, as the only way for Alkend to kill Galain and get a full victory is through a lynch.

he'd then have to wiggle out of the "why didn't you die? and "weren't you supposed to be in Arai, too?" questions, though.

ofc, with only 3 players left, all it takes is one mistake.

fucking fujis. Takeda will steamroll you yet.

[Mentalist]

I'm dissapointed with Tapper this game. He's been hopping a lot more than usual. way less content, too.

[D'rek]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

 Khellendros, on 13 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Morg45 had a very decent game. If Lish is still alive next night, he might take a look at him....

although equally likely he'll go for Gait.


Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit.

And you may get your wish. Trake is against voting Korbas and wants to go for Galain. Korbas is likely to side with that (as it would mean they wouldn't be lynched), and then Alkend will simply vote that way too, if Gait does not.

Of course, that's really wonderful for scum, as the only way for Alkend to kill Galain and get a full victory is through a lynch.

he'd then have to wiggle out of the "why didn't you die? and "weren't you supposed to be in Arai, too?" questions, though.

ofc, with only 3 players left, all it takes is one mistake.

fucking fujis. Takeda will steamroll you yet.

I doubt anyone will even remember to go back and check what castle Alkend said he was in. And then they will feel awful when they get to SH

[Mentalist]

 D, on 13 August 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

 Khellendros, on 13 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Morg45 had a very decent game. If Lish is still alive next night, he might take a look at him....

although equally likely he'll go for Gait.


Hmm, question: if they go for Galain today, will yopu make an announcement that Arai was taken? cuz that would automatically show that Alk is full of shit.

And you may get your wish. Trake is against voting Korbas and wants to go for Galain. Korbas is likely to side with that (as it would mean they wouldn't be lynched), and then Alkend will simply vote that way too, if Gait does not.

Of course, that's really wonderful for scum, as the only way for Alkend to kill Galain and get a full victory is through a lynch.

he'd then have to wiggle out of the "why didn't you die? and "weren't you supposed to be in Arai, too?" questions, though.

ofc, with only 3 players left, all it takes is one mistake.

fucking fujis. Takeda will steamroll you yet.

I doubt anyone will even remember to go back and check what castle Alkend said he was in. And then they will feel awful when they get to SH

I will make sure to make them feel awful.

[Gnaw]

 Mentalist, on 13 August 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

it's the "I did a find on this guy and he makes a reveal that checks out, but oh, wait his entire role was such as to make sure I get wrong results"-part that irks me.

If the dog hadn't stopped to piss he'd have caught the rabbit.

Playing the "if" game is a waste of time 99.9% of the time. And this ain't in the .01%.

You want to bitch about the setup? That's fine and dandy. But whining that Shinrei put in a role that meets the description you give it "his entire role was such as to make sure I get wrong results" is bullshit. And you know it is.

Due to coincidence and a careully worded truth, you took correct information and deduced an incorrect conclusion. That's your fault not Shin's.