[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

[Rikkter]

Alkend, on 26 February 2014 - 10:18 PM, said:

So Rikkters back. well shit. ok.


I don't really want to speculate much. I'm hesitant to lynch if theres a reason the Timelord brought back Domingo. The way I see it Denuls a lost case either way. Rikkter must be the investment in this move I think. can't figure that out.

There are a few potential situations including:

Timelord A wants me lynched and reversed time to make sure I was. Timelord A didn't like the result so rewound time to avoid a lynch. Timelord A is hugely applauded by everyone for outing me and if the lynch doesn't happen this time I owe Timelord A big time.

Timelord A wants me lynched and reversed time to make sure I was. Timelord B thinks he can work with this so rewound time to avoid a lynch. I'm now Timelord Bs debtor. Not completely his bitch though because he didn't forward time again past timeout therefore still leaving the chance of a lynch.

All I have to do is figure out which and who that corresponds to.

[Galayn Lord]

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:00 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 26 February 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 09:50 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 26 February 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Heh, well, I did not expect to see Domingo so quickly! Did Rikky talk a lot about Domingo's role - if so, the who smelt it, dealt it rule still applies A begrudging congrats to those who smelt something off about him.

I see that time has been rewound now. Presumably the TL who did that is hoping that Rikkter is lynched so quickly that whoever killed Denul doesn't have time to put in their orders again. I have absolutely no idea if Denul is on my side so I have I'm torn about whether to vote or wait.

Orders stand even when time is altered.

Oh really? So I guess the TL is just hoping that the order is rescinded. Or more likely they know way more than I do about all this.


And there's no way you're not being lynched again. Let's not have a repeat of Mafia 100

Well that wont happen; as has been demonstrated I have no LP, I also have no BP and we have confirmed killers/vigs in game so I can be taken down any night. Oh and I don't have a kill either.

Well, it's interesting you mention these things, because we have no way of knowing if you're lying or not. All we know is you're Domingo, you can take us all down in flames if you summon Millenium, and you need to be lynched, since that DID work and so far is the only proven way of killing you. Why would anyone take a chance at losing the entire game by letting you off the hook instead of lynching you again?

Oh get over your Rikkingo-boner and try doing something useful like looking at interactions on thread eh?

I was spot on, though, wasn't I? No reason to give up now.

[Alkend]

Ok cool I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just don't quite see the point in bringing Denul back?

If what I read up is correct NAs are either set or are returned. Why would the vig change their mind about this?

[Rikkter]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

[Galayn Lord]

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

[Rikkter]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Ok cool I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just don't quite see the point in bringing Denul back?

If what I read up is correct NAs are either set or are returned. Why would the vig change their mind about this?

What's the difference, and why do you care? I'm just genuinely curious. If we can't know the exact mechanics of the NAs and we don't know Denul's faction, what has changed since the first time we lynched Rikkter?

[Galayn Lord]

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

I know, thanks. The point of finding you was to lynch you, buddy.

[Rikkter]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

I know, thanks. The point of finding you was to lynch you, buddy.

And a minimum of 50% of Timelords do not want me lynched now they know who I am. Is it your timelord who has spent some of his valuable time? Don't forget Time has been getting rarer in each game so far, this is an investment in me of which I am very mindful.

[Galayn Lord]

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

I know, thanks. The point of finding you was to lynch you, buddy.

And a minimum of 50% of Timelords do not want me lynched now they know who I am. Is it your timelord who has spent some of his valuable time? Don't forget Time has been getting rarer in each game so far, this is an investment in me of which I am very mindful.

No, absolutely, no. It CANNOT be assumed that the sole purpose of the second time shift was to prevent Rikkter's lynch. Domingo is dangerous to both factions and could switch "allegiances" at the drop of a hat. He does not benefit the Timelords by being alive; he benefits them by being dead. So what else happened that might cause a Timelord to go back to day 1? Well, someone died overnight. Someone who belongs to a faction (unknown) and therefore has a Timelord in his faction.

Why you would think a Timelord NOT IN YOUR FACTION gives a flying fuck about wasting their ability to keep you alive is insanity.

[Alkend]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Ok cool I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just don't quite see the point in bringing Denul back?

If what I read up is correct NAs are either set or are returned. Why would the vig change their mind about this?

What's the difference, and why do you care? I'm just genuinely curious. If we can't know the exact mechanics of the NAs and we don't know Denul's faction, what has changed since the first time we lynched Rikkter?

This is looking like I'm taking sides so I'm gonna butt out of this. all I mean to say is If Denul stays dead for whatever reason (vig action possibly). A faction is a man down. Domingo must be a play at "possibly" evening the odds. thats what I suspect might happen.

[Galayn Lord]

This is crazy, we have like 15 minutes left or something.

[Rikkter]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

I know, thanks. The point of finding you was to lynch you, buddy.

And a minimum of 50% of Timelords do not want me lynched now they know who I am. Is it your timelord who has spent some of his valuable time? Don't forget Time has been getting rarer in each game so far, this is an investment in me of which I am very mindful.

No, absolutely, no. It CANNOT be assumed that the sole purpose of the second time shift was to prevent Rikkter's lynch. Domingo is dangerous to both factions and could switch "allegiances" at the drop of a hat. He does not benefit the Timelords by being alive; he benefits them by being dead. So what else happened that might cause a Timelord to go back to day 1? Well, someone died overnight. Someone who belongs to a faction (unknown) and therefore has a Timelord in his faction.

Why you would think a Timelord NOT IN YOUR FACTION gives a flying fuck about wasting their ability to keep you alive is insanity.

Because, sunshine, they KNOW I'm not in the OPPOSITIONS faction. Denul died for a time, big deal - unless Tertian was the lover of King Sunday then he doesn't know if the Tertian that died was his or not. 50/50 chance of it being an enemy versus a 100% chance of it being a potential ally.

[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, on 26 February 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Ok cool I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just don't quite see the point in bringing Denul back?

If what I read up is correct NAs are either set or are returned. Why would the vig change their mind about this?

What's the difference, and why do you care? I'm just genuinely curious. If we can't know the exact mechanics of the NAs and we don't know Denul's faction, what has changed since the first time we lynched Rikkter?

This is looking like I'm taking sides so I'm gonna butt out of this. all I mean to say is If Denul stays dead for whatever reason (vig action possibly). A faction is a man down. Domingo must be a play at "possibly" evening the odds. thats what I suspect might happen.

What if Domingo decides not to "even the odds" but unbalance them even further instead, making it 5 vs. 7, or 6 vs. 7? I personally am not counting on Domingo to "save" either faction, period. If you are, well, good luck.

[Bek Okhan]

Time's up rikky.
Vote rikkter

[Galayn Lord]

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:45 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 26 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Alkend, you're speculating by assuming that a Timelord brought back Domingo for a reason. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to leave the ONE PERSON WE'VE SPENT 40 HOURS HUNTING FOR alive is crazy.

Uhh... bringing me back is the ONLY reason to rewind time to before the lynch.

So you've been hunting for Domingo for 40 hours have you? Well I see no evidence of it, all I see is your fetish for me. You think you're such a shit-hot player it was instantly clear to you it was me do you? Have you looked anywhere else at all? Nope. You are what is known as tunnel visioned. Look around you, everyone is learning more about you than you are about them. That isn't good for you. Your own faction will be writing you off as a hopeless case that they are willing to see sacrificed, you have no allies.

This from the guy who is a one-person faction...

If you read the majority of the posts on day 1, there was mostly talk of how to find Domingo, whether or not we should bother because it would hard to do, etc, etc. Now that we got lucky and hit you on the first try, why would that suddenly become unimportant?

Dude, you've already done it.

I know, thanks. The point of finding you was to lynch you, buddy.

And a minimum of 50% of Timelords do not want me lynched now they know who I am. Is it your timelord who has spent some of his valuable time? Don't forget Time has been getting rarer in each game so far, this is an investment in me of which I am very mindful.

No, absolutely, no. It CANNOT be assumed that the sole purpose of the second time shift was to prevent Rikkter's lynch. Domingo is dangerous to both factions and could switch "allegiances" at the drop of a hat. He does not benefit the Timelords by being alive; he benefits them by being dead. So what else happened that might cause a Timelord to go back to day 1? Well, someone died overnight. Someone who belongs to a faction (unknown) and therefore has a Timelord in his faction.

Why you would think a Timelord NOT IN YOUR FACTION gives a flying fuck about wasting their ability to keep you alive is insanity.

Because, sunshine, they KNOW I'm not in the OPPOSITIONS faction. Denul died for a time, big deal - unless Tertian was the lover of King Sunday then he doesn't know if the Tertian that died was his or not. 50/50 chance of it being an enemy versus a 100% chance of it being a potential ally.

This assumes that the Sundays have zero knowledge of who their allies are. Can we safely assume that? I don't think so.

So you're saying that:

1) A Timelord saw Domingo, a threat to everyone, get lynched.
2) This Timelord sees Denul die and doesn't know what faction he's in.
3) This Timelord somehow thinks that bringing you both back to life will benefit his faction.

Am I crazy, or is this the most illogical bullshit house of cards ever constructed?

[Kessobahn]

Galayn Lord, on 26 February 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

Am I crazy, or is this the most illogical bullshit house of cards ever constructed?

Trick question. Both answers are correct.

[Alkend]

Bek Okhan, on 26 February 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

Time's up rikky.
Vote rikkter

Well thats an end to whatever that was.

[Path-Shaper]

Rikkter has been lynched. He was Domingo.

Will do Night resolution once I get home!