[Shadow]

Hanas, on 05 June 2013 - 01:32 AM, said:

Shadow, on 05 June 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Hanas, on 04 June 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

Shadow, on 04 June 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Hanas, on 04 June 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

13 players. 2 killers. 1 guard. 1 healer.
No NKs
Very good guessing. 1 or both killers abstaining. Or mod shenanigans.
Day 2 looks to be fun. Where's the popcorn?

Yeah, really unsure what to make of it.

It's possible they kill on alternate nights for example. It has been the case before anyway, not sure how likely it is.

Co-ordinated withhold? Or just both independently deciding to, it's a feasible strategy.

Really unsure.

Would you care to speculate on how the coordination took place? Just when I was thinking you might not be scum.

Via signal presumably. Would be worth checking back to see if there is anything that didn't look suspect at the time that could suggest something like that. Dunno, just throwing possibilities out there really and it's one of them. Dunno what's scummy about it tbh?

I'm hesitant to jump on the possibility of roled players being successful, because it's a risky thing to put weight on for town, and there are other possibilities.

I try very hard to not make assumptions in mafia. I believe paranoia is a virtue. I once spent an entire English period arguing with the professor that there is a clear difference in meaning between "to boldly go" and "to go boldly". But even I have trouble seeing any ambiguous language in

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

The set-up consist of 2 independent killers and a symp. The killers don't know each other.
Town has a guard and a healer.
Day is 36 hours. Night is instant, so make sure to provide provisionals.

that would allow room for killers coordinate.

I'm not suggesting some sort of hidden communication mechanic, as you point out, the OP is pretty clear.

I meant that it is possible that they managed to co-ordinate on thread via subtle signalling. Unlikely, but possible.

[Hood's Path]

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

nobody would buy that

[Shadow]

Gamelon, on 05 June 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

I'm here and thanks to the small amount of posts on thread caught up.
Will be on and off for some time.*








*I cannot care less about what happens on thread, but unfortunately I don't like to be mod-killed and ruin the game so I will post and hope you lynch me or I will get nked.

Town not playing an being a distraction is more annoying imo. If you're town and we lynch you for not playing, it's a worse result than you being modkilled. If you have enough time and want to play the game, you should try and contribute. If you don't, then why sign up? This kind of coasting is a total pain.

Karatallid, on 05 June 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Wow, a whole like 10 posts since I left yesterday. Oh well, at least we got the lynch. As I suspected, Silchas came back town. Doesn't discount him being the symp, but I guess we shall see how the game goes. I am surprised and confused about the no NK situation. Possible that no provisionals were given? Maybe the killers, or at least one of them, actually is one of the low posters.

Another possibility. Still seems sort of unlikely. It's not like there was a speed lynch, they had a lot of time, and if they knew they wouldn't be around much it seems unlikely they'd not put a provisional in at least.

More likely if they do kill on alternate nights or something like that. Also possible they'd had a prov in on shin or something.

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

Agree with this sentiment.

[Atrahal]

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

wait for what? for the next part of your sentence? Or would you like me to continue reading? What a dumbass.

[Korlat]

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

wait for what? for the next part of your sentence? Or would you like me to continue reading? What a dumbass.

So I'm a dumbass for pointing out your own dumbass, "look at me, I want what innos want!" comment? Uh-huh.

[Shadow]

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

wait for what? for the next part of your sentence? Or would you like me to continue reading? What a dumbass.

Vote atrahal

You're really going to take issue with his use of the word "wait"? Looks like trying too hard to seem dismissive to me.

[Atrahal]

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

wait for what? for the next part of your sentence? Or would you like me to continue reading? What a dumbass.

So I'm a dumbass for pointing out your own dumbass, "look at me, I want what innos want!" comment? Uh-huh.

your a dumbass for your sarcastic comment when

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Sorry I've been away even longer than I envisaged. Looks like we got lucky with the no kills, though there are way too many variables for why that happened for my liking, though I would say the least likely is that both killers forgot to put in provisionals. One forgetting maaaybe (though again, I feel it's one of the unlikelier scenarios), which means I reckon at least one was affected either by good play from guard/healer, or an abstention, as someone mentioned already.

I should (hopefully) be around quite a bit today.

what does this achieve? Pure wifom and you entered it. That is not looking for scum, that is just creating discussion about something with too many variables and which does not really help us. I can always wish for no kills tonight, but i'm not trying to determine whether it will happen or why it happened like you just did.

[Atrahal]

Skintick, on 05 June 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

Skintick, on 05 June 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

He says after post 260...

Way to kill the thread. I think post 260 was sarcasm, or that is how I read it.

*clap*

You just get one.

I'm going read the thread properly and see what's up.

This was hours and hours ago. I was hoping to read his enlightening post but yet?

[Cast]

That's your case? Because he was trying to seem dismissive? How about signaling or being first vote on Silchas?

Edit: this was @ Shadow.

This post has been edited by Cast: 05 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

[Cast]

Karatallid, on 05 June 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Wow, a whole like 10 posts since I left yesterday. Oh well, at least we got the lynch. As I suspected, Silchas came back town. Doesn't discount him being the symp, but I guess we shall see how the game goes. I am surprised and confused about the no NK situation. Possible that no provisionals were given? Maybe the killers, or at least one of them, actually is one of the low posters.

This kind of hand wringing and "I knew he was inno" whining always bugs me. The only people that have an inkling of what a cf will be are scum.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 20 hours and 17 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Atrahal, Cast, Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Shadow, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Atrahal (Shadow)

Players not voted: Atrahal, Cast, Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

[Hood's Path]

Cast, on 05 June 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 05 June 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Wow, a whole like 10 posts since I left yesterday. Oh well, at least we got the lynch. As I suspected, Silchas came back town. Doesn't discount him being the symp, but I guess we shall see how the game goes. I am surprised and confused about the no NK situation. Possible that no provisionals were given? Maybe the killers, or at least one of them, actually is one of the low posters.

This kind of hand wringing and "I knew he was inno" whining always bugs me. The only people that have an inkling of what a cf will be are scum.

he was doing this before SR was lynched

[Korlat]

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Having no kill on night one with a modkill and a lynch benefits us. I am hoping for a similar outcome tonight minus the modkill.

Wait, so you're hoping that we can get a lynch and that there are no kills in the night? Why didn't you also mention that you hope the lynch is a successful scum lynch and so fully declare your inno intentions and beliefs to the thread?

wait for what? for the next part of your sentence? Or would you like me to continue reading? What a dumbass.

So I'm a dumbass for pointing out your own dumbass, "look at me, I want what innos want!" comment? Uh-huh.

your a dumbass for your sarcastic comment when

Korlat, on 05 June 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Sorry I've been away even longer than I envisaged. Looks like we got lucky with the no kills, though there are way too many variables for why that happened for my liking, though I would say the least likely is that both killers forgot to put in provisionals. One forgetting maaaybe (though again, I feel it's one of the unlikelier scenarios), which means I reckon at least one was affected either by good play from guard/healer, or an abstention, as someone mentioned already.

I should (hopefully) be around quite a bit today.

what does this achieve? Pure wifom and you entered it. That is not looking for scum, that is just creating discussion about something with too many variables and which does not really help us. I can always wish for no kills tonight, but i'm not trying to determine whether it will happen or why it happened like you just did.

So your arguments is that your comment should be excused for being useless and pointless because you believe my post was useless and pointless? And that also your comment should not be pointed out, whilst mine should. I see, that's all very clear and extremely logical...


And I should also point out that I do disagree with your analysis of my comment. I felt that it was worth pointing out what my opinion as it stands on the game's events was (rather than oh say, a general comment on our supposed hopes and wishes for the game's outcome) - or do you not want opinions?


I'm off to read through the thread now that I can devote a bit of proper time to the game, and see what other dumbass comments I can highlight

[Shadow]

Cast, on 05 June 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

That's your case? Because he was trying to seem dismissive? How about signaling or being first vote on Silchas?

Voting him for being wrong about Silchas would be a bit stupid. More interesting on the Silchas Train is Kara switching shortly after Tholen's vote.

I didn't like his reaction to pressure. That is a pretty standard reason to vote someone. Instead of actually addressing the point he made a really big stretch (focusing on them using the word "wait", in a context where it is completely understandable) to "brush off" the point instead.

[Hood's Path]

there were other WIFOMy comments about why there was no kill not just Korlat I think - let's see who wants to waste all day talking about it

why does everybody think they get to judge all the comments as senseless or pointless and invalid? If you want posting and comments to increase, quit acting like every word must be profound

[Atrahal]

Tholen was a soletaken so let's vote him. Ooops spoiler. (not really, just read that part in the bonehunters, and it was only in passing).



My point I am trying to make above is voting for pathetic reasons should be beyond us. There are people playing that have less posts than Path Shaper. Fair enough some of them cannot help it, some promise to be around after a certain date, yet people like Skintick need to go.



Promising posts

Skintick, on 03 June 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

Checking in. Will have time to read the thread in about two hours.

yet when they do..

Skintick, on 04 June 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Sorry guys, will be able to play more later

Vote Silchas Ruin

Only to get a lynch, sorry.

I haven't been able to follow the game and it doesn't help that two pages are blocked by my work filter.

No it isn't

Skintick, on 04 June 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Desra, on 04 June 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Venesara hasn't posted at all. I am less inclined to lynch if there is a potential modkill in the works. No sense losing a total of 4 players on day/night 1.

For those of you who are math challenged. That is one loss to modkill, one loss to lynch then two seperate kills by scum.

Hmm, good point...

Skintick, on 05 June 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Hanas, on 05 June 2013 - 01:13 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 04 June 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

So is that killers afraid of hitting one another, a successful heal, a successful guard, or some combination therein? And this is the second time I've seen this from Shin in recent history

Healer and guard both getting it right would be rather unlikely. My guess is that one killer abstained, the other forgot to put an action in, and the healer was guarded. Or Shin was a killer and Liz gave the role to somebody else.

... that's incredibly specific...

So the question for town is, are we going to let this keep happening?

Skintick, on 05 June 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

Skintick, on 05 June 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

He says after post 260...

Way to kill the thread. I think post 260 was sarcasm, or that is how I read it.

*clap*

You just get one.

I'm going read the thread properly and see what's up.

[Atrahal]

@cast I think



I voted Silchas by thinking he was trying to hide, keeping his post count middle of the pack, joke voting and not really engaging us in conversation, or pushing any of his own ideas out there. I went away, and when I checked back later I saw that day would time out when I was asleep. By then there where quite a few votes on Silchas, did Silchas defend? Not properly, why? Why was he disinterested in being lynched?



One theory was that he was protecting his master? That makes me look at Shadow. Yet he could have just been a disinterested townie.



I didn't look to much at Desra yesterday, but I did say both Shadow and he looked like they could be the symp. What makes me think Desra is a little scummy was his "no lynch" thoughts. That would be bad for town if we weren't to lynch. A symp would love a no lynch.



I have other thoughts but I am keeping them to myself for now, as they involve someone I haven't mentioned. I have my eye on him though.

[Cast]

Hood, on 05 June 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Cast, on 05 June 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 05 June 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Wow, a whole like 10 posts since I left yesterday. Oh well, at least we got the lynch. As I suspected, Silchas came back town. Doesn't discount him being the symp, but I guess we shall see how the game goes. I am surprised and confused about the no NK situation. Possible that no provisionals were given? Maybe the killers, or at least one of them, actually is one of the low posters.

This kind of hand wringing and "I knew he was inno" whining always bugs me. The only people that have an inkling of what a cf will be are scum.

he was doing this before SR was lynched

So again, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHO IS INNO ARE SCUM. The symp knows with certainty and the killers obviously know themselves and have some guesses on the rest of the team. That Kara keeps on about this looks like he's trying too hard to look like town.

[Atrahal]

Vote Skintick



I am done with low posting coasters. we can form an opinion about everyone else but guys like this make end game when they should have been gone early doors. I would hate for him to be a scum winner.

[Hood's Path]

those low posting pricks