Ok, so there's his odd vote which has already been spoken about. Then he points the finger at Trake. He thinks a symp clue is unlikely.
Ruse, on 13 May 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:
Just going to throw this out there, how fast was that response from Trake AND he points fingers elsewhere straight away. Seemingly scummy move in my opinion.
As to his suspicions, I see where he is coming from. I don't think any symp would be so obvious to do that. As when we finally catch a killer it can easily be traced back.
I think Trake could well be a killer.
He gets called on his vote and doesn't really address it, just dismisses it. He then puts out a theory that Trake and Denul are killers, with Denul fake symping Thyr to try and pretend that Denul is a symp, because we don't lynch symps much.
Ruse, on 13 May 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:
Joke votes aren't meant to make sense sonny. If you want to be serious then that is up to you.
The whole vote before the timer begins is a good way for a killer pair to concoct the role of pretend symp and lynch an innocent. I wouldn't put it past you being Denul's partner. That way we think Denul is symp and so try and make connections to who his master is. Therefore not voting Denul. Now you coming on and making the case against Thyr makes me believe you could be connected that way.
Explains his original vote, and that he is leaving his vote on seriously.
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:
When I voted Trake originally I basically picked the one out of two alts that had not posted. The reason I have left my vote that way is because of his behaviour since or at least up until I went away. I have not had much time to read the thread yet. This game got serious very quickly. I was prodding him to post with the vote which he did but his posts felt wrong.
Now this post is one that I didn't make much note of at the time, but in hindsight, it seems kind of relevant right?
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:
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The case is flimsy at best.
Like this post by Ryadd, is it a joke? Do you all understand it?
Ryadd Eleis, on 12 May 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:
Pallid, on 12 May 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:
...... and my avatar looks like an electrified zebra. :|
At least you're a fellow critter of flesh and bones. The rest so far are just somewhat sentient mostly empty spaces.
It reads strange to me. Fellow critter of flesh and bones? Fellow to who? Is he comparing dragon and wolf? Or just because Mockra and that do not have "bodies"? Unless by Fellow he means another creature like Kilava? Kilava and Pallid killers with Ryadd as their symp? Mafia paranoia setting in here, I know he is meant to be referring to the avatars gone by as opposed to something deeper and meaningful, isn't he?
Now here is the first post that shows Thyrllan as wide eyed stupid
Thyrllan, on 13 May 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:
I couldn't find it in the OP - how many alts do we all get in this game again?
Is he joking here or being innocent? Is it someone pretending to be the noob on purpose? Or is it the noob?
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Odd how he jumps to me and Pallid with Ryadd as a symp...I hadn't actually posted at the point when Ryadd made that post.
Also brings up Thyr playing the noob.
Here is some connection with Kalse. He plays He calls my vote good, but subtly defends Kalse too:
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:
Good vote of Kalse there, his posts are yada yada whatever he said earlier. Disinterested townie in my opinion for now anyway.
He then explains he's not going to vote Kalse as 2 votes is enough pressure.
Kalse accuses him of deflecting from Thyr. Ruse says he'll vote Thyr for a lynch, but doesn't really agree with the case. Certainly doesn't seem to be his first choice...
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:
Kalse, on 14 May 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:
Who said it was a joke vote? You and Ruse are clearly deflecting from Thryll whatever the fuck his name light is by voting for Trake someone who was serious right out of the gate so is so low on my scum list as to almost be PI. You all three need to go.
Thanks Have a nice day.
Clearly! That is exactly what I am trying to do. I will vote for Thyr to get a lynch but I don't have to agree with Trake's logic, I don't think Trake thinks Thyr will turn out to be scum.
...Which makes this vote seem pretty damn odd. While two votes were enough pressure for him not to vote Kalse, apparently he's fine being the fourth onto Thyr. Even though he doesn't seem very into the Thyr case at all. Certainly I can't see much reason on thread that he'd want to hop on the train at this point.
Also worth noting, that Ruse and Kalse don't really follow up on each other at all . Kalse goes for me rather than Ruse, and neither mention the other much at all.
The vote:
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:
Trake, on 14 May 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:
I do think that thy is scum he is trying to hard to try to be a total newb to actually be a newb. It is obvious that you do not think logically when it comes to mafia at all so there is no way that you will ever agree with my logic.
Oh is there logic within your posts? I fail to see that.
Vote Thyrllan
It's worth noting that this vote is big. It puts Thyr on 4, with the next nearest train being 2. Within 10 minutes, Thyr is L-3, and has become the main lynch candidate by a large margin. You'd expect someone making such a big vote to be a bit more behind the candidate.
Even after his vote, he doesn't seem very into Thyr. He's willing to vote him "in case signalling was right". He's earlier suggested he really doesn't think it is. And "If Thyr is faking I want to give that guy an Oscar" seems to suggest to me that he's really not convinced that Thyr is faking.
He's also really middle of the road below. His suspect list is nearly half the game (though neither Kalse, nor me for that matter), and there's no one he suspects for anything big. To note here are that he'd apparently be willing to vote the person he thinks is symp. Also that he felt Serc was fake symping him, though this just seems paranoid to me, don't remember him getting heat for it at all.
Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:
Wow.
If Thyr is faking I want to give that guy an Oscar.
I'd be willing to vote for Denul, Trake, Spite, Thyrllan, Serc, Ryadd for all different reasons. Nothing big though as it's only day one. Denul for initial vote that started this mess, Trake for his aggressive play when confronted, Spite for coasting along voting with the flow not adding much, thyrllan in case signalling was right, Serc for seemingly.fake symping me, he had been too agreeable with me and follows my vote, and Ryadd because I think he is the actual symp.
And then he votes me today:
Ruse, on 15 May 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:
Vote Kilava
Having just read up he argues with some people, pokes other people, is nice to other's a really mix of emotions coming from him. He is mostly active and I get a huge scum vibe from him. Some examples coming up.
It's kind of interesting. Since people have went for me from early today, as Mockra points out, any case is based on how I played yesterday. Which he really didn't mention at all at the time (even though he gave a huge list of people), and now it's a "huge scum vibe". I didn't even qualify for "nothing big" yesterday, but based on the same play he's voting now?
Won't really go into the case in depth, since this is a case on Ruse, rather than a defense of myself. Interesting to note that he circles back round to me and Pallid with Ryadd as symp though.
And much like earlier, his logic just doesn't really add up. It's like he's decided where he wants to vote and is then scrambling for any reason to vote there that he can find.
Also, similarly to earlier in the game with his Trake vote, he never really addresses people pointing out that he was willing to vote Ryadd rather than voting his master. The closer he comes is saying "Fine then" and voting me, as if that explains the initial slip.
I would be happy voting Ruse.
Anyhow, I'm off for a couple of hours now, back in a while.
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