[Ruse]

Kilava is one of the only ones playing to Thyr's role play. Why? Looking for brownie points? Knowing he will turn out innocent which in turn may make Kilava look more town like?

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

For someone playing the confused inno, Thyr still does manage to pull out the standard response to symp cases (based on someone elses actions etc), rather coolly.

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

Also asking to be found is a poor show. Particularly before the finder (if there was one) is actually revealed.

Not sure if I buy this. I mean, if he's a confused inno, it seems to me that he would be more likely to be well acquainted with the OP, rather than missing information from it.

This is very interesting. Very very very interesting. Pallid and Kilava paired? Two reasons I think this, the first is what makes Pallid scummy, the second is the conversation between Trake and Kilava, and the avatar talk on the first page, Kilava mentions his and pallid mentions his. Anyway...

Since page one Pallid hadn't posted. Then Mockra votes for him as shown below...

Mockra, on 14 May 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

I noted a few interesting potentials for symp-master signaling. First, in line with the comment of RE playing middle of the road, take a lookie here:

Ryadd Eleis, on 12 May 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Pallid, on 12 May 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

...... and my avatar looks like an electrified zebra. :|

At least you're a fellow critter of flesh and bones. The rest so far are just somewhat sentient mostly empty spaces.

This sounds like someone saying "You're on my team, the rest of the people, including myself, are roleless eejits," which is true. Symps are roleless as are the rest of town in this game.

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:40 AM, said:

Blah blah blah. Had a yada

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

What is wrong with you people? Path-Shaper hasn't been lynched yet? He is clearly spysat117 and has been recruited by Big Ben.

We need to kill him before he kills us.

So, minimal (actually, no) content and a vote in shortly after a (however spurious) case against Trake. Care to justify your vote a little, Kalse? Beyond some downright shoddy distraction to the only real interaction between alts so far?

As an aside, before anyone else brings it up, having looked into it (don't go there, really, don't) there's a pair of butt-beams pouring forth from a pair of arses in my avatar. Now were I thinking that PS is setting me up I'd be looking for another avatar featuring a pair of something - we do after all have a paired killer around and I may be being paranoid but hiding the obvious in plain sight is a very old trick. Just to get it out before anyone else brings it up Now we haven't seen Spite yet...

Look at my avatar, you know you want to.

Now zoom in.



Closer.





Clooooseeeerrrr!





Hey, I did it, now you all feel my pain.

Serc beat me to this one. The whole vote for Kalse followed with by comment about only scum admiring a silent killer sent up red flags for me as well.

As to the whole Trake thing, he's just trying to raise some hackles and shit. Doesn't discount him from being scum, but I usually see this as an irritating townie move. Gonna take more for me to waste a vote in his general direction.

Vote Pallid

[Ruse]

So after his case there is around an hour and then look at Pallid's responses. Three posts in a row. Kilava is not around he had gone to bed so he wasn't here to talk to Pallid and give him advice. I think Pallid has panicked a bit which shows in the way he posts. He even adds to the Thyr train to make it larger.

Pallid, on 14 May 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

Mockra, on 14 May 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

I noted a few interesting potentials for symp-master signaling. First, in line with the comment of RE playing middle of the road, take a lookie here:

Ryadd Eleis, on 12 May 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Pallid, on 12 May 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

...... and my avatar looks like an electrified zebra. :|

At least you're a fellow critter of flesh and bones. The rest so far are just somewhat sentient mostly empty spaces.

This sounds like someone saying "You're on my team, the rest of the people, including myself, are roleless eejits," which is true. Symps are roleless as are the rest of town in this game.

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:40 AM, said:

Blah blah blah. Had a yada

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

What is wrong with you people? Path-Shaper hasn't been lynched yet? He is clearly spysat117 and has been recruited by Big Ben.

We need to kill him before he kills us.

So, minimal (actually, no) content and a vote in shortly after a (however spurious) case against Trake. Care to justify your vote a little, Kalse? Beyond some downright shoddy distraction to the only real interaction between alts so far?

As an aside, before anyone else brings it up, having looked into it (don't go there, really, don't) there's a pair of butt-beams pouring forth from a pair of arses in my avatar. Now were I thinking that PS is setting me up I'd be looking for another avatar featuring a pair of something - we do after all have a paired killer around and I may be being paranoid but hiding the obvious in plain sight is a very old trick. Just to get it out before anyone else brings it up Now we haven't seen Spite yet...

Look at my avatar, you know you want to.

Now zoom in.



Closer.





Clooooseeeerrrr!





Hey, I did it, now you all feel my pain.

Serc beat me to this one. The whole vote for Kalse followed with by comment about only scum admiring a silent killer sent up red flags for me as well.

As to the whole Trake thing, he's just trying to raise some hackles and shit. Doesn't discount him from being scum, but I usually see this as an irritating townie move. Gonna take more for me to waste a vote in his general direction.

Vote Pallid

And I'm here for a bit before bed.

You vote for me becaauuuse? I was the first to comment on my own avatar? And yet you brought up Kalse, with lots of fishy posting, and Ryadd Eleis comment on someone else's avatar. This doesn't follow - I only see a loose connection of people-who-commented-on-avatars, and you've technically also pointed out Kilava, though you chose not mention her despite the fact she also falls under this signalling-through-avatar-talk 'argument.' That's... an awful lot of scum. Signalling each other.

In response to the Trake / Kilava fest, all I can say is "prodding." Both brought up a lot of good points... and perhaps Trake should be watched, if only for the vehemency displayed. But only watched, as I'm not really taking it that seriously (or not as seriously as some of the other cases brought up - Denul/Thyr and/or Kalse).

So out of Trake and Kilava he wants Trake watched.

Pallid, on 14 May 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

Ooops, and forgot about Thyr's very "innocent" posting - I find this highly suspicious. I'm also agreeing with whomever said Denul fake-symping on day 1 is highly unlikely, so it's either real or day 1 shenanigans. Might as well test that too:

vote Thyrllan

Votes Thyr

Pallid, on 14 May 2013 - 05:20 AM, said:

So Spite truly only has 1 post. Trake is at highest post count, with Kilava a bit behind, BUT this does make sense due to their earlier back-and-forth. And it was full of content.

This is all I can really think of posting since no one else seems to be awake atm. I don't personally prescribe much to post counts, ESPECIALLY since we're barely into Day 1.... but they are sometimes interesting in conjunction with content? Spite, maybe post something with your thoughts tomorrow? Just an idea.

And now I'm off to bed.

Condemns Spite's one post. Bit of a summary and then hops off the thread. Very fishy behaviour by Pallid here.

[Ruse]

See here Trake shouting at Kilava for having Pallid on the mind.

Denul, on 13 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

By the way do you have an opinion on the issue? Or is your opinion that you think that I am overreacting to nothing. In which case do you think that I am scum. If your town you should be trying to find scum. So vote for me if you think that I am scum otherwise process what has happened in the game so far and vote for the person who you think is likely scum. I.e. Making scummy moves trying not to stand out. Or continue being a moron. It doesn't matter to me.

An opinion on which issue? Whether or not Pallid should have voted?

I think you're over-reacting to a very slight bit of pressure, and it makes you seem over anxious to be seen as contributing/too worried about being accused of rehashing other people. Ofc I'm voting you because I think you are likely scummy. Your post just seems to be basic mafia 101.

What the fuck is it with you and fucking Pallid? The question isn't about fucking pallid you retarded evolution reject. The fucking question is about fucking Denul and fucking THY and or anything about Ruse?

If you think that I am scummy fine. But what the fuck does Pallid have to do with anything. What do you mean by mafia 101? You have no opinion about Denul or Thy because you either don't think that there is anything to have an opinion about or because your a fucking twit who couldn't put his shoes on the right feet with out your mommy helping. You think that a vote on me is pressure. If I was scum then it might be. The fact that you think that I am in front and asking question and wanting answers makes me suspicious and scum just tells me that you can't tell scummy players dicks from your momma's tit in the dark.

Now lets talk about your willful ignoring of my now repeated questions about your retarded opinion on Denul and Thy also your willful and pathetic attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy.

+1/2 mark for effort I suppose. Imagination is a bit lacking.

Nothing much happening except some useless posturing. I'll probably be back later since the thread is unlikely explode with excitingenss in the next couple of hours.
The Thyr thing might be appealing as a day 1 lynch to people, except that since I'm the one involved I happen to know my vote on Thyr was just messing around

[Ruse]

Interestingly when Kilava re-enters the thread he does not acknowledge the case on Pallid properly, does not venture an opinion on it either, he comments it in passing in his "summary" to Thyr. He also votes for Kalse. Shifting focus away from Mockra's case. He also engages me and asks me questions elsewhere so that the thread is a lot more cloudy than it should be.

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

What I find odd Ruse, is that you seem to think that the Denul vote is suspicious (in that you think it's fake symping). But at the same time you discount the possibility of just regular symping, which seems the more common tactic and the more likely case.

Personally, Thyrs vote looks like a joke vote to me. Maybe symping, maybe not. In a way, he's unlucky the game went serious quickly, because normally we have way more joke vote stuff. I guess this is also the reason people are getting paranoid about any avatar banter.

Though on a meta note, it would be cool if we could get into the habit of not dropping joke votes etc, to generally make it harder for scum.

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on 13 May 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

I couldn't find it in the OP - how many alts do we all get in this game again?

Is he joking here or being innocent? Is it someone pretending to be the noob on purpose? Or is it the noob?

When I first read the post I saw it as a joke about the craziness of other games. After all, it's pretty obvious how many alts everyone gets after they've been given out. Also by knowing the sign up numbers etc.

Which again, makes me feel weird about the noobiness of later posts.

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 14 May 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Where do we stand now? Could someone give me a quick summary of the cases so far please, I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up.

People are voting you mostly because Denul voted you earlier (sucks for you really, there's no defense against cases that rely on you being symped by someone else).

Ruse is voting Trake because Trake came on thread and immediately started pointing fingers. Ruse points out that he ignored Ruse's vote, but then it didn't really have much substance behind the vote so that doesn't seem too bad to me. When Ruse pushed him with an actual argument, he did respond.

I'm voting Trake because I feel like he over-reacted to very little pressure. Also because he started playing into the aggressive townie persona (with some success, note the people who have said that they think he is more likely loudmouthed town than scum etc). Also to a very slight degree for his subtle assumptions that scum would be playing quietly.

Mockra is voting Pallid, I think for being signaled by Ryadd.

I'm now going to change my vote to Kalse. He's coasting, and he's already been called on it. He has posted, and at times when lots of discussion was happening, and hasn't gotten involved with it at all. More than just coasting, he seems to be making an effort to coast, because he's posting jokes etc when there is actual discussion happening at that very moment and lots of stuff for him to comment on, however briefly, which he hasn't done.

Similarly, he's also left a joke vote on me when the game is getting serious, which is slightly scummy as having a vote on at the end of the day gives the slight appearance of contribution.

Remove vote
Vote Kalse

Probably about 10 hours left.

Yeah so Kilava doesn't sit well with me at all. Nor does Pallid. Mockra could be right about Ryadd being their symp.

[Ruse]

Just going off Pallid and Kilava paired, after Kilava gets two votes Ryadd comes on and votes for Thyr. Ryadd has already been touted as the symp of the two. Maybe I am wrong about one of these but I definitely think one of them is scum. Possibly both.

Eldat Pressen, on 14 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

remove vote


Vote Kilava


So it wasn't as tough a catch up as I thought. I think you are all idiots in your reasoning for voting Thyr. I won't be a part of the train with 8 hours left that will make the lynch inevitable. If you need my vote at L-1 with an hour left, I'll vote to lynch, but I think the reasoning for voting him is ridiculous. Kiliva's play has been, to this point...wait for it....wait for it................almost there..... smooth. ahhhhhhhhh that felt good. So That's where I am placing my vote, though I don't think I'll get much support. I am still willing to vote Serc as well. Honestly, what scum is going to come on and continually post the shit Thyr is posting. Do you think his partner wouldn't be screaming at him off thread to shut the fuck up, telling him what to say to do damage control? But nope, we haven't seen that. It's just been Thyr bumbling around the thread. I don't buy it. This lynch is too easy, and Thyr is not playing like any killer I have seen. I'm not going to be a part of it. Serc and Kilava scum team. Mark it.

Kalse, on 14 May 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 14 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

remove vote


Vote Kilava


So it wasn't as tough a catch up as I thought. I think you are all idiots in your reasoning for voting Thyr. I won't be a part of the train with 8 hours left that will make the lynch inevitable. If you need my vote at L-1 with an hour left, I'll vote to lynch, but I think the reasoning for voting him is ridiculous. Kiliva's play has been, to this point...wait for it....wait for it................almost there..... smooth. ahhhhhhhhh that felt good. So That's where I am placing my vote, though I don't think I'll get much support. I am still willing to vote Serc as well. Honestly, what scum is going to come on and continually post the shit Thyr is posting. Do you think his partner wouldn't be screaming at him off thread to shut the fuck up, telling him what to say to do damage control? But nope, we haven't seen that. It's just been Thyr bumbling around the thread. I don't buy it. This lynch is too easy, and Thyr is not playing like any killer I have seen. I'm not going to be a part of it. Serc and Kilava scum team. Mark it.

Yay!!!!!

Someone else wants to lynch the kitty cat.

DEATH TO THE KITTY CAT!!!!
DEATH TO THE KITTY CAT!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA

remove vote

Vote Kilava (aka kitty cat)

Ryadd Eleis, on 14 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 14 May 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Is this meant to be for me? I am not a newb. I just asked so as to make sure I wasn't confusing what others were saying.


Anyway, I think that Trake is probably a townie. I will probably vote the same way as them. Are you voting yet Trake? And who for?

Well, so much for selling the noob card. As much as I do respect the person who said that we had plenty of time and therefore they wouldn't vote Thyr until closer to day end, I disagree. Thyr is simply jumping up and down yelling "hang me, hang me" here.

Vote Thyr

[Ruse]

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Ruse, on 14 May 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

Wow.

If Thyr is faking I want to give that guy an Oscar.

I'd be willing to vote for Denul, Trake, Spite, Thyrllan, Serc, Ryadd for all different reasons. Nothing big though as it's only day one. Denul for initial vote that started this mess, Trake for his aggressive play when confronted, Spite for coasting along voting with the flow not adding much, thyrllan in case signalling was right, Serc for seemingly.fake symping me, he had been too agreeable with me and follows my vote, and Ryadd because I think he is the actual symp.

Who do you think Ryadd is symping, and wouldn't it be more sensible to vote them than him?

Okay then

Vote Kilava and Pallid

remove vote

vote Kilava

[Kilava]

Pallid, on 15 May 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Spite, on 14 May 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

I can't make up my mind if thyr is screwing with us or not. I think we just got lucky this time with Denul voting Thyrllan even if Denul was just messing about. I think it seems too obvious now that thyr just got caught up and didn't know how to get out of it. Just blame it all on Denul, Thyr. Even if we were unsure about thyr, his "act" real or not, demands checking out, especially for a first day case. I'm wondering, if thyr does come back scum do we go ahead and lynch Denul as possible symp or not.

Agreed that at this stage, we're going to need to check it.

Less sure on Denul. Personally, I feel that the way he's acted is the better reason to vote him. Otoh, if he is scum, then that particular interaction definitely bears more looking at. Wouldn't go ahead and vote Denul straight away, but would definitely look at his interactions for other suspects. But then, I feel Denul has played pretty circumspect. Not sure how much/how good any info from his interactions would be, particularly once it was obvious Thyr was going down.

Best to wait till the CF anyhow.

OK, so Denul is playing strangely, but it seemed general thread consensus that if he's anything besides inno, it's sympy (distracting with fake-symping torwards Thyrll). So she would want to go after a sympy person? Not sure honestly, but if that's the case, then:

Here I was talking about the possibility of voting Denul if Thyr does come back.
I say that I'm less sure about it, because I feel the reason Thyr has acted is the better reason to vote him than the symp thing. I don't feel like I said I would vote him here. What I said I'd do would be checking out his other interactions, because if Thyr was scum there was a decent chance Denul would be symp, and so it would be a good place to start looking for scum.

[Kilava]

Ryadd Eleis, on 13 May 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 13 May 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:

If I have this right, there seems to be some suspicion on me? But it's because of something someone else did, rather than anything I've done (indeed, I'm not sure what I could have done over the course of two posts).
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to that then. Perhaps I would suggest that a finder could do a find on me to check?

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

Assuming, of course, that there is a finder.

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

Oh Dear Lord, we commend the body of our soon departed brother Thyrllan to the earth from which he came. One innocent slip and he is gone. Dear Lord, please have mercy on Brother Thyrllan's soul, for Trake shall not.

Just a brief reminder that I was not the only person commenting on Thyr. The fact is, his acting was enough for people. For some reason people seem to be accusing me of masterminding it somehow, bringing up the times I mentioned it. Ofc I was going to mention it. If I hadn't, wouldn't that be weirder?. It'sfunny, since earlier in the game I was accused of trying to de-rail from Thyr by attacking Trake, and ff course, apparently there's a big problem with me offering alternate suggestions too.

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 15 May 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

Interestingly when Kilava re-enters the thread he does not acknowledge the case on Pallid properly, does not venture an opinion on it either, he comments it in passing in his "summary" to Thyr. He also votes for Kalse. Shifting focus away from Mockra's case. He also engages me and asks me questions elsewhere so that the thread is a lot more cloudy than it should be.

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Mockra, on 14 May 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Kilava, I wonder why you are voting Kalse when the suspicion was that he was signalling you. Destroying evidence?


I also find Pallid's response to my accusation over the top, OMGUS. It was the first vote on him, with no following train, so why the intentional misunderstanding of what I was getting at (that RE was signaling his master Pallid).

Meh, there are signalling accusations flying left right and centre atm, and those kinds of cases are usually pretty shaky to begin with. If I was scum, it seems a bit stupid to draw attention to Kalse if he had been signalling me. Also, if I was scum and thought he was signalling me, why would I try and get him lynched at this point? I mean, I'd have to be pretty worried about the connection to think it was worth ditching a symp over, and I haven't really seen much pressure for it at all, so why would I be?

That would be my response to Mockra's case. He had chosen to vote on one of several of peoples earlier interactions before the game was super serious.

I do love how engaging people is "shifting focus" and making the thread "cloudy". Yep, more information and more content, sure is bad that someone's making our lives all difficult by getting that on thread.

Edit: To clarify, it is my response to how I feel about his Pallid case. I didn't really think it was that worth acknowledging, because he himself pointed out a couple of such instances of "potential signalling", and I saw no reason that one was more likely than any of the others...

This post has been edited by Kilava: 15 May 2013 - 12:27 PM

[Kilava]

Pallid, on 15 May 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Ok, I bring up this last chunk of Kilava quote only because of the constant mentions of Trake, and yet no true decision to do anything about it. If Trake is so scummy, why not leave your vote on him? Why willingly distract yourself with Kalse, and then also give plenty of attention towards Thyrll as well? RE was the only one before her to point out how weird Thyrll's posts were, and in a somewhat joking manner.

[...]

I pull this quote out because Trake is mentioned A LOT. And 50/50 about actually saying, "hey let's look at Trake again, seriously" - more an examination of Ruse.

I was discussing Ruse's vote, and trying to make some sense of it. Ultimately, I didn't feel like Trake was as scummy as Kalse, and that most likely he just went serious fast and didn't see the point responding to a joke vote straight away, along with coincidentally being on. I still do feel it's a bit of odd, but atm there are scummier things. Though Ruse has continued to play somewhat scummy (said he was willing to vote symp, some strange logic about fake symping etc), as well as a really conveniently timed vote.

The way you people use language is really fun. "Willingly distract?" myself with Kalse. Why does everyone seem to think that you should pick one guy and never consider anyone else? I thought Kalse was scummier, so I went for him...Thyrs posts seemed weird (no one else thought so? Funny, I didn't get that impression yesterday), so I commented on them.

[Monok Ochem]

ok, back for today

I can't see the thread for the giant crowd of Kilava boners, seriously, I'll read some of that in a little while

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 15 May 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

Here he points another finger my way but ends up with a vote on Trake. I cannot fathom what is going through his mind. So he thinks I am jumpy but goes along with my vote?

[...]

So this is early day one, Kilava is active and has accused a few different people of things but his shit doesn't stick. It hasn't. I'll go through more of his posts but for someone who is active you think he'd try and actually lynch someone rather then venture lots of opinions but not actually commit to one.

Hey, maybe you could read the post where I explain why I'm voting for Trake, for different reasons to you (though I suppose both were sort of based on over-reaction).

I'm not sure why my cases not ending up in a lynch is a really negative thing...You'd think it'd be easier to get them to with a team who can support it no? Again I'm being accused of "not committing" to lynching someone. I'll just refer you my response to Mockra on the same topic.

Not just focusing on one person is not the same as not having someone you want to lynch. Being tunnel visioned is stupid play.

There is only so much you can do to continue putting pressure on, when the person you have made your case on is not posting anything.

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 15 May 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

See here Trake shouting at Kilava for having Pallid on the mind.

Because that was what my case referred to, and he was vague about what he was actually referring to.

[Kilava]

Mockra, on 15 May 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

And as for killing your symp, Kalse, you wouldn't be the first to throw one under the bus if they are causing more harm than good.

Also apparently I am cool and reasonable. Too cool and reasonable in fact.

But at the same, I'm so worried about something to do with my symp (Presumably the interaction that Mockra pointed out as a potential signal? I don't think Kalse had actually posted any substance at that point, so I can't think of anything else it would be) that I decide it's worth losing a symp for. Never mind that me voting Kalse is just going to draw attention to that interaction, which I'd drawn utterly negligible pressure for, never mind signaling cases usually being rather shaky, and that I'd only been mentioned as one amongst several. So I decide to freak out and try to get Kalse lynched, apparently?

[Kilava]

Pallid, on 15 May 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Last - I'm tired. Dead tired. So maybe I missed something - Kilava, why switch to Kalse when you seemed set on Trake? Yes, he voted you, and is coasty, we get it - but as you pointed out yourself, he was deliberately posting jokes while serious discussion was going on - that's a bit too obvious perhaps?

It's nice how anything scummy has become "too obvious" while playing a good game has become scummy.

Pallid, on 15 May 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

And why don't you consider yourself building a case on Kalse when you've voted him? Twice?

I already have done. I literally don't think he has a post I haven't analysed.

He coasted all through day one. He deliberately avoided discussion, just posting jokes while it was going on. He comes on with an easy vote for Thyr (while we're talking about who was behind Thyr's lynch, and doing vote analysis, I'd like to remind people that this vote and Ruse's moved the train from 3 votes to 5 within the space of 10 minutes, with another train on 2 close behind. Both seemed to be "voting for the sake of a lynch", neither claimed Thyr as their preferred target. There were still around 9 hours left), and only switches it when someone else goes for me first.

As well as this, he apparently was suspicious of certain things from earlier, and just never mentioned them. Though the opinions he mentions are easy/safe ones that other people had brought up previously. As well as this, I get the impression he's just trying to feign engagement, because otherwise he might have realised that voting someone for deflecting instead of the person they're deflecting is simply bad play...

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 15 May 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

Just going off Pallid and Kilava paired, after Kilava gets two votes Ryadd comes on and votes for Thyr. Ryadd has already been touted as the symp of the two. Maybe I am wrong about one of these but I definitely think one of them is scum. Possibly both.

Except my supposed symp just came on with an early vote for me...

Are you guys even bothered about making sense, or just throwing a lot of buzzwords around and hoping something sticks?

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 2. 22 hours 49 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Kilava, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Spite, Ruse, Ryadd Eleis, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

1 vote Kalse: Kilava
3 votes Kilava: Mockra, Ryadd Eleis, Ruse

Players not voted: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Spite, Trake

[Kalse]

The sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

Oh wait!

That's not right?

Silly me it is right














On Venus!!!!!


Die Kitty Die!!!!

But someone else is driving a lynch on you.

[Kilava]

Kalse, on 15 May 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

But someone else is driving a lynch on you.

Haha, no shit?

[Kilava]

I wouldn't mind defending myself if people could at least put together a sensible case.

But so far we have:

I'm not playing like scum -> I'm scum.
Kalse is my symp and I decided to try and get him lynched for "causing more harm than good", because at the same time as playing everything cool I'm apparently so tremendously nervous as to decide it's worth dropping a symp under next to no pressure, even though that would draw more attention to me and Kalse.
I was redirecting -> Vote me and not the person I'm redirecting from.
I "realised" Thyr was the symp -> I'm scum.
I was some sort of mastermind behind the Thyr lynch.
I'm partnered with Trake and Thyr was the symp who decided to get lynched to get the attention off of me and Trake after me and Trake had apparently decided we wanted that attention
I may have been distancing from kalse. For some reason. You could really lob this accusation at anyone who doesn't agree with anyone ever. Or if they do, you can say they're in cahoots.
I had more than one suspicion, and didn't just go for one person.


I mean, really.

At least for Mockra there's a long tradition of idiotically voting people for playing like town.
Ruse and Ryadd just seem like they want to throw votes on and will look for ways to justify it afterwards, regardless of if they make much sense. Rather similar to Ruse's important Thyr vote yesterday actually.